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Respectable members,

when I was reading Chi. Ravi's posting, few questions came to my mind. I am not asking these questions at anyone in particular.

1. What is the connection between pre-marital sex and morality? I am not asking about excessive cases here. This is a very general question (lot of westeners connect pre-marital sex to morality too).

2. Why only women are expected to protect their chastity (karpu) so much so that, in a lot of instances the female victim of an assult involving rape decides to choose between facing the society or committing suicide; why the society is more cruel than death towards the female victims of rape?

Thank you.

Survey conducted by The Hindu newspaper revealed that pre marital sex in India is growing particularly in Cities.

The Hindu : Front Page : Pre-marital sex grows, but not awareness

Personally I feel boys and girls have to be treated alike when it come to chastity. Unless both the maintain their virginity, we should not discriminate on gender basis.

All the best
 
Sri. Venkat asked:- (in connection to pre-marital sex and morality)

"What about the responsibility and consequences of such relationships?"

The youngsters who try sex due to harmonal overdrive belong to our society too. Why our society is not taking the responsibility for the consequences? the society wants to run away from a simple resposibility so much so that, society is prepared to become more cruel than death, that too untimely death for an active and cheerful young female.


Sri Raghy ji,

You have asked a very valid and important question - Why society is running away from taking the responsibility for the consequences?

Sri Raghy ji, society is irresponsible not only on girl's or boy's sexual drive due to hormonal imbalance, but on every aspects of life that includes education, career and may be few other.

Not all boys and girls have over sexual drive. Some of these people having such a problem should not be looked down. I too could not imagine how the society can intervene in this issue constructively.

Sri Raghy ji, if we Brahmins need to empower our community there are many such problems that need to be looked into seriously and a different type of setup would be required and that may be only within the scope of our imaginations. May not be possible to practically get into such a setup and see for the positive results.
 
Chi. Ravi said:-

"society is irresponsible not only on girl's or boy's sexual drive due to hormonal imbalance, but on every aspects of life that includes education, career and may be few other."

Sri. Ravi, you are right when you highlighted other issues with respect to education, career and self-esteem. I just focused on pre-marital sex which is relevant to this thread. Yes, you are right; society is not investing enough in younsters.

Chi. Ravi said :-

"if we Brahmins need to empower our community there are many such problems that need to be looked into seriously and a different type of setup would be required and that may be only within the scope of our imaginations. May not be possible to practically get into such a setup and see for the positive results."

There are methods that were tried and succeeded before. I remember the novel by 'The Exodus' by 'Leon Uris'. The book is about smuggling jews out of Nazi Germany, escape to Cyprus and initial settling in Israel. Most of the jews went to Israel empty handed. The story unfolds in empowering the youth. If you can find the time, please read this novel. There is so much to learn from such a struggle.


 
ravi,

good post #51.

i do not know if people in india, still think, that the average westerner jumps into marriage for sex only, and then jumps out at inconveniences faced during marriage.

i do not think it is true.

infact based on the time spent together before marriage, i am perplexed at the marriage failure rates. but it is, i think, the same people, who divorce once, divorce several times, thus skewing up the statistic.

all my white firends, about 20, only one is divorced. he has been divorced 4 times. the rest all have stayed with the same spouse. these are professionals.

this cannot be said of my wife's work, which is unionized labour working class. of 10 white girls she knew when she started, only one has remained with the same spouse.

personally, like women going for employment, relying on their income to lead a better life, divorce too, is a reality of today. while some divorces may be for flippant reasons, i think, in many cases, the wife is abused or beaten, as the men still live under the old paradigms. or worse, the men's families, and the man is caught in the middle.

also, not true to say that all elderly are lonely and abandoned in the west. it is true that there are homes, with different levels of services for the different ages and needs. but increasingly, there are people, who wish to share their home with their parents.

let us remember, the latter was the norm, till about the 1950s, when economic prosperity took off, and the fast paced life, along with mobility for work purposes became a reality.

such changes too are happening in india. work, education, socialization, friends and above all lifestyles, are being the goals that are being sought after, leaving behind parents, old values and traditons behind.

understanding this, would help us cope, and perhaps modify or do damage control. to deny it, is i think, is akin to banging our heads against a brick wall. we can have serious head injuries :)

thank you.
 
kunjuppu ji, reg your post above, i think indians in the past were the ones that jumped into marriage for sex....which probably is true for a section of people today as well..

in those days marriages, i think, were considered a relationship b/w families bcoz ppl lived in joint families...and they wud prefer someone who wud suit the family set-up..

in these times when couples live by themselves, i think its just fair to let the child have his/her right to select his/her own spouse..

i like the current trend when parents introduce prospective girls / guys to their child, but leave the final decision of marriage to the child...

in this way both parents and the children are satisfied, parents have the satisfaction of finishing horoscope matching, etc before introducing the prospective spouse to their child, and the child is happy to get the choice to make...

the children meet abt 10+ ppl like that, keep chatting like friends and can take from 1 day to 1 year+ to decide.

this is how most ppl i know have been getting married in the past 15 years or so, so did i...its a very arranged marriage alright, but with all the choice and decision left to the child..

regards.
 
ravi,

good post #51.

i do not know if people in india, still think, that the average westerner jumps into marriage for sex only, and then jumps out at inconveniences faced during marriage.

i do not think it is true.

infact based on the time spent together before marriage, i am perplexed at the marriage failure rates. but it is, i think, the same people, who divorce once, divorce several times, thus skewing up the statistic.

all my white firends, about 20, only one is divorced. he has been divorced 4 times. the rest all have stayed with the same spouse. these are professionals.

this cannot be said of my wife's work, which is unionized labour working class. of 10 white girls she knew when she started, only one has remained with the same spouse.

personally, like women going for employment, relying on their income to lead a better life, divorce too, is a reality of today. while some divorces may be for flippant reasons, i think, in many cases, the wife is abused or beaten, as the men still live under the old paradigms. or worse, the men's families, and the man is caught in the middle.

also, not true to say that all elderly are lonely and abandoned in the west. it is true that there are homes, with different levels of services for the different ages and needs. but increasingly, there are people, who wish to share their home with their parents.

let us remember, the latter was the norm, till about the 1950s, when economic prosperity took off, and the fast paced life, along with mobility for work purposes became a reality.

such changes too are happening in india. work, education, socialization, friends and above all lifestyles, are being the goals that are being sought after, leaving behind parents, old values and traditons behind.

understanding this, would help us cope, and perhaps modify or do damage control. to deny it, is i think, is akin to banging our heads against a brick wall. we can have serious head injuries :)

thank you.

Sri Kunjuppu ji,

Well said...

We should keep our eyes open and brain alive and intact just to realise the things happening around us. But banging our head agaisnt a wall would be foolishness. I think even an individual taking some simple initiative to reform the society would be similar to him banging his head and become a lunatic.
 
the children meet abt 10+ ppl like that, keep chatting like friends and can take from 1 day to 1 year+ to decide.

this is how most ppl i know have been getting married in the past 15 years or so, so did i...its a very arranged marriage alright, but with all the choice and decision left to the child..

regards.

thanks happy.

are the parents around when these youngsters mingle? sounds so interesting. is there any video of one such session. would simply love to see how it is all played out. thanks :)
 
no kunjuppu ji, the parents are not around when the children interact :)

but they make sure the children are going out to some crowded places, like beaches and restaurants - that is, the parents ensure that the children do not get to be alone by themselves...
 
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Sri Happyhindu ji,

In my opinion, it is not possible for parents to assert completely as where the boy or girl is going with his girlfriend/her boyfriend and what they are going to do?

As long as friends are invited to home and allowed to chit chat without confining to a closed room, than that would be perfectly OK to help developing healthier relationship.

Today, girl and boys goes out giving any valid reasons and parents can not control them (In fact need not and can not) These boys and girls if don't have good moralities, than can indulge in anything that parents can not know unless something seriously get exposed.

We can not blame our parents completely. Every relationship has limited capabilities to monitor/control the other.

Parents can only educate their wards with moral principles and make them understand one's personal, domestic and social responsibilities. Parents can take some efforts to spy on their children. I feel that is not at all wrong as the motive would be only to ensure the perfectness in their children and to safeguard them.

But, as this checks are always not possible in a perfect manner, the sole responsibility would only of the boys and girls to adhere to their moralities and be composed in order to better their life.

Media is playing a vital part in society that has both positive and negative impacts on us. It is imperative to understand what need to be accepted and what to be avoided. Today's cinema sometimes seems to be the major cause for some nonsense happening in our society. We should learn only the good messages out of it.

Whatever, parents can only teach them the right way of life, but they can not walk along with their children with the tiniest details of the life.

Today the basic acceptance among young boys and girls are in a peculiar way that makes me to feel as whether they are doing with their conscious or just like that without realizing.

"Love panna podhoan da machchi, yen vaazhkaiyil naa jaicha maadri"
"Intha figura na bracket potta, enniya nee periya allundu oththupia?"
"Machcha amma, appavai naa emaathiten, pavum paaiyan group studies pan poirkan endru ninaikaranga"
"Machchi enniya madri iru da, life a enjoy pannu da. Innikki iva na naaliki vera vorthi da"
"Na veetala poi sollittu vandhutten di, eppediyaadha enniya yen boyfriend kitta drop pannidu. En amma kitta na library ku payirken endru sollidu"
"Machchan love naa bayapadadhe...just follow -pick up, drop up and escape man"
"Yen di nee romba bayapadarey, Ivan kooda enjoy pannu, datting po, pinnadi paaththukalam. Appa strict aa irukkudhunale naa arrange marriage pennikiren endru solli, andha beku ai kazhitti vittudu"
"Inda loosu illachcha vaaiya irukku di, nariya panammum irukku, enjoy pannu, loosu seluvu pannutum. Theva patta kadaisiyil kazhitti vittudu"

There are many such belief among boy and girls for which parents can not bear complete responsibility.

Even society can not be held responsible. Today's boy and girls are part of the society and would sustain a healthy society in future and for ever. If boys and girls could not understand this than no other can help them.
 
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Ravi ji,

Yes media can play its role. Abt 20 years back, dunno how many ppl owned a computer. I did not even know that there is something called porn until i was abt 18-19 (i was really dumb); and even then, there was no opportunity to have viewed such things.

I first learnt about the reproductive system from my parents at around 11 or 12 years of age. It was in my school science textbook. The teacher wud murmur and fumble in class and end up not explaining anything at all.

My parents were rather clinically detached while explaining these things. They did not make me feel ashamed or scared to ask anything. I was later surprised to find out that most of my friends wud not dare to talk to their parents about such topics.

In traditional households, the children are afraid of their parents, they fear them instead of loving them. And the trust factor has not really been formed. Some parents (esp fathers with sons) do not even have casual talks with their children.

In not so overtly traditional households, the parents make friends with their kids. And as they grow up, the children find it easy to trust their parents as friends.

When it comes to match-making, if the parents trust their children, they will allow them to get to know the prospective bride / groom.

The crowded (and not secluded) places are just a safety feature - its like, just in case the girl / the boy do not like each other, then it shd not give gossip mongers a chance to churn out their own versions of things...

Sometimes, if the girl or boy is indecisive, then the parents can take things into their hands and decide for the children, which, imo, is not a good idea.

Ultimately sir, i really do think marriage is a gamble. A lottery ticket. No matter how much care one takes, or does not take, things can go very wrong or very right. And life is generally a roller coaster ride...made up of ups and downs.

Regards.
 
Sri happyhindu ji,

Well said....

Parents should be the mentor for their children. They should also be very good friends of their children.

Any ways it is the fact as you have stated that marriage is a lottery ticket. One may be lucky and may be unlucky or just have 50:50 results. In all how smarter a person may be, no one can win over "FATE"

As we use to say "VIDHIYEAI MADHIYAAL VELLALAAM", we can try our level best to resolve the issues and take the necessary steps to ensure control over the situation to the level best possible. That way we need not to repent and blame our self if at all, all our efforts becomes failure.
 
Sri Happy Hindu,

Why do you think marriage is a gamble? I really can't come to terms with that (I read the same opinion from you in a different thread, if I am not wrong). In my opinion, marriage is a relationship that needs renewal almost every day. the reason is simple, in my opinion - we keep evolving everyday. we learn new things, our situations keep changing etc. In that ever changing relationship, the role of the man and the woman is also ever changing. So far, my wife and I are just doing that. We took out the 'husband' and 'wife' brand out of our life long back. For us, everyday is a new leaf; we look forward to the next day.
I am not a gambling person. I don't look at marriage as a gamble at all.

Cheers!
 
Marriage in my opinion is a transition in the life of a human being.
Its a phase of life most of us go through.
I personally dont see much difference between an arranged marriage and a love marriage even though I had an arranged marriage.

Marriage which ever it is whether love or arranged is purely up to the two individuals who share their lifes to understand and complement each other through a perfect union of heart and soul.
I dont even view intercaste marriages as all that bad provided both are of the same religion.

I always view the marriage of my non brahmin father and my brahmin mother as the marriage i would want to emulate for the rest of my life.

renuka
 
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Marriage in my opinion is a transition in the life of a human being.
Its a phase of life most of us go through.
I personally dont see much difference between an arranged marriage and a love marriage even though I had an arranged marriage.

Marriage which ever it is whether love or arranged is purely up to the two individuals who share their lifes to understand and complement each other through a perfect union of heart and soul.
I dont even view intercaste marriages as all that bad provided both are of the same religion.

I always view the marriage of my non brahmin father and my brahmin mother as the marriage i would want to emulate for the rest of my life.

renuka

well said renu.

all the children of intercaste marriages that i have seen, including a few in my own family, are well brought up, affectionate to their parents and appear to have a confidence and charm, that i sometimes find lacking iin pure TB families.

within the same religion, marriages are easier, i agree.

i also agree, that once within the framework of marriage, it is like running a business - income/expenditure, priorities in spending, budgets, overdrafts, divisions of labour, mutual respect and regard for each other's skillsets, and hopefully all of the above tinged with affection.

love is not a necessary ingredient for a successful marriage. but love is the spice, that makes a good marriage, a great experience.

people fall in love, and out of love regularly, i think. within marriage, without marriage, in with the same person, with different persons. love is transient, can encompass a lot of people, and has no limits.

but a marriage is only one business at a time and is very defining.

thank you renu. you are a delight to this forum. :)
 
Dear Raghy ji,

Yes truly every relationship requires nurturing everyday, irrespective of whether its love or arranged.

The reason why i mentioned abt the gamble part is bcoz things can go wrong even if the greatest care is taken. Because fate can be uncertain sometimes.

One example is a known person who lost her husband in a scooter accident just 4 months after marriage.

You might have read in papers about a bangalore techie (abt 2 yrs back) who had killed his young bride just because he had a girlfriend with whom he was emotionally unable to give up his relationship. His parents wud not accept his girlfriend, and he ended up having an arranged marriage succumbing to parental pressure.

In both above cases, care was taken to find out about the character of the groom, horoscopes were matched, weddings were celebrated with due pomp and honour, and the dreams of the parents shattered within a few months. So sir, it just seems that the play of fate sometimes cannot be avoided.

Ofcourse such incidents are one off incidents, but they exist nevertheless.

Also, there are elders whom i know, who were married off with the best horoscope matches they could find. But somehow that did not ensure mental compatibility.

Both sides the couples say they have put in the best efforts. Nobody seems wrong either. So its just a case of two good people in one bad marriage. Again, i think its just fate.

Generally we also see that if couples were left to themselves, they can make a good life together. But we also see elderly people making life miserable for them.

In a magazine a long time back, an advocate had replied to a query. A MIL wanted to know if she cud file a case on her DIL for negligence. In that, the advocate had asked all elderly people (women esp) to make a honest evaluation of how they treat or treated their DILs, esp in the early days of her marriage.

The advocate went on to mention that it was not possible to expect the DIL to suddenly become their friend when they need the DIL's assistance. She also explained the diff b/w then and now. In the past women still took care of abusive in-laws. But in the current times women are no longer intrested in doing so. The advocate suggested counselling instead of taking to law as a recourse.

There are examples till this date about men (i know some) who hand over their salary to their parents (mothers esp). And such mothers ensure that their sons do not have a good relationship with their wives, bcoz they are afraid to lose 'control' over their sons. So these DILs suffer all the unwanted comments, taunts, barbs, in silence.

The loss of 'control' over a son can also come from emotional factors, when a parent can be overly possessive of a son and do not want to feel that he is 'snatched away' from them (emotional insecurity). Such cases of possessiveness seem rare and pretty unheard of in cases pertaining to daughters.

So you see sir, no matter how much effort one takes to ensure that their offspring gets a good spouse, fate always seems to have it last say. Am not sure am being a fatalist. Just putting down things from one POV :)

Regards.
 
Marriage in my opinion is a transition in the life of a human being.
Its a phase of life most of us go through.
I personally dont see much difference between an arranged marriage and a love marriage even though I had an arranged marriage.

Marriage which ever it is whether love or arranged is purely up to the two individuals who share their lifes to understand and complement each other through a perfect union of heart and soul.
I dont even view intercaste marriages as all that bad provided both are of the same religion.

I always view the marriage of my non brahmin father and my brahmin mother as the marriage i would want to emulate for the rest of my life.

renuka

Inter-caste marriage has become a necessity for the brahmin community right now - particularly for brahmin boys.

There is definitely shortage of girls in the market. My survey of matrimony sites revealed that four boys are chasing one girl. There is no miraculous solution to change the equation at this stage.

I don't think `Draupadhi - Pandavas' type arrangement will work in the present time.

I don't recommend mass sanyas for our boys.

I have suggested elsewhere in this forum for looking for brahmins girls having mother tongue other than Tamil and some of our boys enthusiastically responded.

Inter-caste marriage involving a brahmin boy and other community girl may be the best possible solution. Probably they can go for girls within the Hindu community as you suggested to make it more for the cultural integration.

I don't think there is any other alternative

All the best
 
We once lived in Agraharams, a set of families with similar lifestyles. That time it was not necessary to make inter caste marriages to avoid, un-necessary adjustments. Now the people are in different places and already get to know the others lifestyles too. And the right from the young age, schools emphasizes in taking independent decisions. So, these times, it would be prudent to leave the decisions to girl or boy, and we give advise instead of taking a strong different views. It will help, if at all we find some difference, just to caution and make the boy or girl fully understand before entering into marriage. And these times, their judgment would be better than the parents.

Having said that in favor of the girl or boy's benefit, they should equally respect the parents comfort level during the meetings. If there is any problem, we should not bring such situations again and again, which will force them to accept out of their will which may create bigger problems.

Cheers
 
A love story of a Brahmin Girl

Dear all,

I received an email from Mrs.Sumathi Ravi (a member of this Forum) yesterday that was about a love story of a Brahmin girl. I am posting this on behalf of Sri Sumathi ji as she could not post it properly after all the efforts, as been requested by me.

I enjoyed reading each lines of the story (letters) and could re-iterate myself that, the whole Life would be meaningless, doesn’t matter how worth is it, if a true love could not get into marriage relationship.

After reading the whole story I had to hold my tears with great efforts as I was in my office. Otherwise I could have just allowed my tears to roll out of my eyes.

Since this story is relevant to the subject of this Thread, I have decided to post it here as an attachment.
 

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ravi, sunita,

i have read this before a few years ago.

still i read it again. even without realizing, i had goose pimples all over me.

very realistic. i do not know about others, but in my extended family, i know of atleast 2 cases of girls who gave up their own wishes, to marry mommy daddy choice - either for கெளரவம் or the fear that the younger siblings will not get married.

enough said :(
 
hi folks
i read this story letter some years back...its back some 2 decades
back....just new immigration to USA...new country/new city/
new life with a new man with new culture....inter caste marriages
nice in stories... in reality its painful...initial years may be look
beautiful with romantic...but later with children...its very difficult...
i know many stories like this in USA....even though arrange
marriages ..we can feel belongingness...like new culture..
in iner caste marriages...belongingness are very remote...
my 2 cents....

regards
tbs
 
Dear RVR,

It is easy to prescribe to others; but when it comes to our own life, we cannot swallow the bitter bill that we prescribed to others.

Remember, I had posted some real life cases earlier. But, wantonly I withheld posting of a few more cases.

First, we do know and accept that several things happen in this world. But every exceptional instance cannot justify its happening and be encouraged because it is real. What is real need not be morally acceptable always.

Second, when the Periappa of the girl I had referred to once broached this topic in his office, all the other NB and SC/ST people said, "This is what we want. All the brahmin girls must marry a NB boy, so that the 'thimir' of brahmins will be decimated".

Do you agree with this statement?

I will post more.
 
Sri Pannvalan,

There is terrific shortage brahmin girls in the market.

I took some statistics from matrimony sites and found out that the ratio of boys to girls is 4 : 1

My assumption may be wrong if girls don't register at matrimony sites and only boys are registering. But some of the Jathaga Parivarthanai Kendrams here at Chennai told me that there is terrific shortage of brahmin girls and confirmed the ratio which I calculated.

Under these circumstances, what is the solution to the problem?

I don't think any miracle is possible to produce girls of the particular age group instantly.

Then what other alternatives available.

You please suggest and I am willing to accept if it is feasible.

All the best
 
Solution is straight logical conclusion only.

If the required product is not available, satisfy with the next one most near to this

i.e--Brahmins speaking other languages.

If immediate next is not available-- then choice is - one coming more near-- people having similar way of life, habits , conviction and expectations.

This will be a stop gap arrangement. It can be continued also for the best satisfaction and betterment of all concerned.

But plans should be made for increasing TB population at least coming generations, by convincing the present productive range youth.

Aim should be everybody's good.

Greetings
 
..... "This is what we want. All the brahmin girls must marry a NB boy, so that the 'thimir' of brahmins will be decimated".


This probably is just braggadocio to just irritate this gentleman. If the present day young girls I know are any indication, it is the girls who will be ruling over the boys.

In any case, B and NB's freely marrying cross caste lines is the only hope for finally cleaning out the caste cobwebs from the lives of Hindus.

Cheers!
 
Sri Naraji & other respected senior members / moderators

If not mistaken, I would like to put forward my views. I would request you all to consider me as one among the Hindus who just want the society to live happily without any discrimination based on Cast. As well I consider myself as Brahmin – “By Birth” and not by profession and not having any sense of superiority, discrimination and hatred towards any people from any Religion and Cast. But would still want to be a Brahmin by performing spiritual activities, following the tradition and some of the laid principals what would fit well to the present living conditions and my capabilities. And I would not mind to marry boldly a girl from any community if I happen to fall in true love.

If I am wrong anywhere in my below posting, kindly excuse me.
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Every cast people in India are living as per their social norms. Every cast people are some way answerable to their cast and or adjusting to live as per the requirements of their cast.

We all know that in general no one of us are bothered about others cast and leading a wonderful life with love and affection towards everyone, we befriend every good people irrespective of their Religion/Cast, we respect every one and living our life without any discrimination.

I think we Brahmins only have the problems in Indian society.

1) Many of the Non-Brahmins (as long as I have experienced and through many of my known people) always wants to keep an eye on Brahmins and don't want to jump into conclusions depending on a Brahmin friend. They are always suspicious about us as they strongly believe that we tell something and silently would do something else. We don't want to reveal the facts and would always like to demonstrate our intelligence. As well though Brahmins looks friendly they carry some sort of superiority complex and would not respect Non-Brahmins whole heartedly.

2) The second problem is the government benefits. This we all can agree unanimously.


Now I think through many organizations, including www.tamilbrahmins.com, we Brahmins want to take some efforts to unite among our self (Iyers/Iyengars/Madhavas/ etc...etc.) first and would focus on empowering our self. Needless to say, not politically but for sure, Socially.

I also feel that to achieve these social objective we are coming up with some Swayamwaram events as a step towards strengthening and benefiting our self.

If some of our members don't want to accept our self as Brahmins because of our non-vaidigham profession, not performing Sandhya Vandhanam on regular basis etc, why should we focus on Swayamwarams among Brahmin Community?

As the title of the event - Naweena Swayamwaram, why we are not making it a revolutionary New type of Swayamwaram and encourage eligible bachelors and spinsters from all the cast to participate and get the varans as per their wish? Dose not it would relieve every Hindu parents from mental agony due to their unmarried boys & girls or due to their love affairs.

I could see many members who don't want to consider that we Brahmins are really Brahmins irrespective of our profession. So, such a Naweena Swayamwaram as I have stated would stand good.

Can I request senior members and moderators to think about this and come to a conclusion for the sake of our Brahmin people, the community that seems to be illusive because of non-vaidheegam profession? So that we can consider only those people who are priest in temples and performing Vaidheega Karyams to others as Brahmin and others can refrain from taking girls from such Vaideega people under the pretext of being a Brahmin by birth (but not by profession)?

This would help vaidheega Brahmins to maintain their traditional values and be Brahmins for ever. All of us as Non-vaidheega Brahmins can be socially relieved from confusions and get into marriage relationship as per individual's preferences with all the Hindus irrespective of Cast (Needless to say eating habits can be an individuals choice and todays boy and girls don't mind all these in their spouse). This way we can avoid many love failures, and late marriages and suicide attempts because of all these marriage related issues.

Or we can seriously carry out an effective Voting among all sorts of Brahmins (Vaideegha practitioners and others) through a professional survey company and come to a valid conclusion. This would be a reasonable move for the betterment of Hindus in Toto.
 
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