Hinduism Vs Rest - Part- Ii

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sirs- unlike most other communities, bramins do not bury, but burn the bodies of dead. this is environmentally and ecologically friendly practice, as this does not consume space. late poet kannadasan says in his 'arthamulla indhumadham' that orthodox hindus have a practice of not burning, but burying the bodies of persons who do not die a natural death. this is interesting. a person who dies of suicide, accident or other doubtful circumstances, is buried and not burned as usual , because may be
the body could be needed for performing some tests.

in older days, there were many restrictions on widows. but these were applicable only for old age widows and not younger ones. unfortunately, as time passed, these distinctions disappeared and even young widows were subject to same restrictions as older ones.

 

[NARAS]

SIRS - and also do remember the average life expectancy of humans was very short in those days. so even if women get married at fairly young age, if they become widows, they will not have much life span left for them to remarry and start a life afresh. so it is quite possible, many women thought it better to live a life of seclusion if they become widows. but nowadays, life expectancy of females even in countries like india is relatively higher, and so, the same old standards cannot be applied now, although i do appreciate the reasoning behind the application of old standards.

 

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sirs - it is said that a natural citizen of india i.e. a person who is a citizen of india by birth, cannot be stripped of citizenship at any point of time by indian govt. in any way. but the citizenship of a naturalized citizen like sonia maino gandhi can be terminated by indian govt. because of various reasons. so , naturalised citizens should not be allowed to hold constitutional posts like president, prime minister, speaker, cabinet minister etc., as their citizenship itself is fragile and not permanent.

 

[silverfox]

I wish!

Hi Suresh
I wish it were true! I am referring to your statement that "if a person was born in India, his/her citizenship cannot be stripped at any point". This cannot be true; otherwise, I wouldn't be spending money and time to obtain a pseudo Indian citizenship by filing for IOC (Indian Overseas Citizenship).

sirs - it is said that a natural citizen of india i.e. a person who is a citizen of india by birth, cannot be stripped of citizenship at any point of time by indian govt. in any way. but the citizenship of a naturalized citizen like sonia maino gandhi can be terminated by indian govt. because of various reasons. so , naturalised citizens should not be allowed to hold constitutional posts like president, prime minister, speaker, cabinet minister etc., as their citizenship itself is fragile and not permanent.

 

[NARAS]

sirs- i think the legal situation is like this-

1, if a person (like me for example) is a citizen of india by birth, but later migrates to a foreign country, and becomes citizen of that foreign country, then he legally & automatically forfeits his indian citizenship, as in india there is no provision of dual citizenship. i think Mr. SF , you come under this category, and such a person cannot claim indian citizenship on the basis of his or her birth.

But my reference was to persons who became citizens of india by birth and who have not forfeited it in any way.

in any case, since many amendments have been made, i would myself also like to know, from knowledgeable members in this forum, as to what exactly is the legal position. and why did Dr,. Kalam hesitate (as was reported widely in 2004 then) to swear sonia maino as prime minister ?

 

[viswanathswamy.page.tl]

ok. i stand enlightened.

 

[NARAS]

sirs - even ******* have a foundation and they are planning for a corpus of 5 crores. their objective is also same as our trust. may not be a bad idea for our members to make a token contribution to ******* foundation. i have made a token gesture by subscribing to ******* Monthly magazine.

 

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sirs - in 2005, the former finance minister of india, Mr. Yashwant sinha, described present prime minister of india, Manamohan singh as an 'eunuch. there were wailings in 'secular' newspapers that this was an insult to the Manamohan. IMHO, this is a definite insult - not to the Manamohan, but to eunuchs!!!!

the yellow shawlist goes to the extent of saying that everything in orthdox hinduism is wrong, and everything in islam & christianity is correct. in that case why does he not convert to islam or christianity? is he afraid that he may be asked to undergo circumcision????

 

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Sethusamudhiram Or Sethudharidiram????

sirs - the yellow shawlist is saying that the Ramar bridge must be demolished for the benefit of tamils since the sethudaridiram...err...sorry.....sethusamudhiram project will benefit all tamils. tomorrow he will even say that for the benefit of all tamils, all temples in t.nadu should be demolished!!

 

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sirs - it is unfortunate that, when the whole world in general,and india in particular have been affected by natural disasters like earthquakes, tsunamis, floods etc., the yellow shawlists unmindful of the consequences are continuing to insist on dredging the sethu canal in rameswaram just because of some alleged monetary 'gains' in the form of local, national & international contracts.

 

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Vegeteranism, Re-birth & Life Expectancy!!!

SIRS - there in one more advantage in being a vegetarian. in tamil there is a proverb 'unda kalaippu thondanukku undu'. this means if you eat more, you will feel tired & sleepy. if you have a normal vegetarian diet throughtout, day and night, you will sleep in time in night. on the other hand , non veggies will feel sleepy in the afternoon and if they do so, they will sleep late in the night and when they are awake,naturally they will indulge in sexapades during those nights. whereas the sexual desires of a vegetarian will be under control as he will sleep in time.

the main reason why hinduism insists on being vegetarian because, this is the only religion which believes in re-birth. it is said there were saints who knew the language of animals, and they used to talk to animals and found out that they are similar to man in many ways. it is thus believed that animals were humans in their previous births , and they have born as animals in this birth, because of some sins they have committed or some curse they have incurred.

an important aspect, which determines culture is life expectancy. the life expectancy of humans was very low inthose days, so child marriages were common, marriage ages were low and widow remarriages were almost nil. but nowadays, and in future, with increase in life expectancy, child marriages will be totally absent, marriage ages increased & widow remarriages become a very normal phenomenon.

 

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QUESTION- If the whole world turns totally vegetarian as brahmins want, who will perform jobs of police and army?

ANSWER - if the whole world turns totally vegetarian, entire humanity will become totally soft. so there may be no need for army or even police!!!!

 

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Temples And Symbols!

SIRS- why are there so many temples all over the country? i think this is how it should have started. in olden days, and even now, it is not all that easy for elders to travel to holy places like kashi, ganges, haridwar, badrinath, himalayas etc., May be this is why elders built substitute temples all over the country, so that those who are unable to visit sacred temples at far off places and visit the nearest temple in their locality as substitute!

Bramins do sport lot of symbols like poonal, sricharam or vibuthi on forehead, kudumi etc., these symbols not only act as identity, but also as deterrents pricking the conscience of the person who is wearing it in case the person resorts to evils like smoking , drinking etc., those who see persons with these symbols perform evils say ' look at that fellow. inspite of sporting this holy symbol, he is committing this offence'!

 

[Neemani]

Vegetarianism is for the kali yuga sadhakas to control their mind's Raajasic tendencies... it has nothing to do with animal conservation. nocturnal activities are fuelled by non-veg food...sexapades are essential within marital limits..Vegetarianism doesn't mean to beget imbecile and effiminate lot. There was a time when Agastya and other sages and common brahmins of those days had mutton. It was mandatory in 'abdhikam' meal offerings to brahmins. Over a period there is a steady deterioration over the control of mind and for the later generations. the linking of rebirth to vegetarianims that they were is irrelevant here. Vyasa after having diffracted the vedas from 3 to 4 has prescribed vegetarian diet to brahmins for ease of recitation and retention and killing tamas which would be rampant in the age of Kali (yuga dhrama) majority of disputes(kalaha yuga) rise out of tonge and genitals in this world. hence the practice. basic physique and strong bone structure (frame) are essential to all including brahmins as well for continuing their tribe.. they cannot choose to be fragile and effiminate by partaking malnutrition. modern vegetarian food is in lack of protiens that are present in eggs and meat fish barring the fat factor. Organic foods and Soya, defat milk have to be religiously encouraged to compensate the deficit of protien. If life expectancy in creases so should quality of life. Widows rose in number due to practice of marriages with huge age gaps between men and girls. no wonder they are widowed in prime youth leading the society to moral depravity (arjuna yelled out this fear in 1st chapter of gita) due to moslem invasions and forceful aductions of youth child marriage was started and the powerful and rich sustained it for personal gains to enjoy life. Now awareness is increasing among all.

 

[NARAS]

sirs -human body easily digests veggie food. there are relatively lesser side effects in veggie food than in non veggie foods.

 

[NARAS]

Dmk Vs Dmk!!!

SIRS - it is now out in the open! the two 'sons' of the yellow shawlist
have gone to the extent of physically and violently attacking each
other, so much so that 3 persons have been killed in madurai. the
dispute is about who is the 'successor' of the yellow shawlist. the
maran cohorts would like stalin to sit on the palanquin, whereas azhagiri
feels he should be given the crown. The marans have conducted an
'opinion' poll and 'found' out that 70% of respondents support stalin,
20% dayanihi and for azhagiri and kanimozhi a pathetic 2% each.!
(ironically though the yellow shawlist has 4 'official' wives, both azgiri
and stalin are sons of same parents!)
angered on seeing this, azhagiri has reportedly instigated his
followers to attack the office of dinakaran in madurai. major
damage to property and death of 3 employees of dinakaran has
been reported. sun TV repeatedly showed the damages painting azhagiri
as a barbarian. the yellow shawlist has tearfully appealed for peace and
has said that there is no question of succession on the basis of dynasty!!!
If merit is the criteria, the most qualified person should succeed. but when dynastic succession becomes criteria, there are bound to be many contenders, particularly if you have 4 wives and so many children!
more over crores of money is at stake! no wonder azhagiri wants to have
the major portion of the cake!!! a lesson for all politicians! beware! do not
have too many wives and children! very, very difficult to crown the
successor of your choice,as there is bound to be lot of competition!

May the soul of law and order in tamilnadu rest in peace!!!

 

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SIRS - During period of late annadurai, if you say you are dmk member, then the question will be 'of which district unit are you a member?' but nowadays if you say you are a dmk member the immediate question is 'you are a member of which family faction?'!!!

QUESTION - what will the yellow shawlist karunanidhi do if he were to see his son azhagiri now?

ANSWER - HE should sing 'YEN PIRANTHAI MAGANE! YEN PIRANTHAAYO!!

ILLAI OR MAGAN ENDRU ENGUVOR PALAR IRUKKA INGU VANDHU EN PIRANDHAI

KOLAIGAARA MAGANE!!!'

 

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The Ugly Face Of Dmk!!!

SIRS - the Dynastic Munnetra Kazhagam ...err...sorry...the Dravida Munnetra kazhagam is not the only party which has got into trouble because of dynastic wars. the indira gandhi family, which was many times smaller than the family (or is it families??!!) of the yellow shawlist, plunged into dynastic war in 1982, culminating in sonia maino gandhi illtreating & chasing away maneka gandhi out of indira household. both maino & maneka were daughters in law of indira.

 

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The fascist face of yellow shawlism!!!

sirs - at a time when three of his supporters have been brutally killed by his own son's henchmen, the yellow shawlist, instead of mourning those deaths, is indulging in pomp and granduer just like a newly wed mapillai. on the pretext of completing '50' yrs. as legislator, the yellow shawlist has wasted tax payers money by conducting costly celebrations in which his cohorts have penned hosannas to him, allegedly written by the yellow shawlist himself.! dynastynidhi maran err..sorry...dayanidhi maran has boycotted the celebrations. so has Dr. abdul kalam, AIADMK, MDMK & DMDK & Dr. Ramadoss too. instead of Sun tv, the yellow shawlist has asked RAJ TV(the same RAJ TV whose owner was thrashed by police during DMK rule a few years ago on baseless charges) to beam live coverage of the functions.

last year, the yellow shawlist ridiculed Kanchi acharya Shri. jayendra saraswathi swamigal as a criminal. now his own son is accused no.1 in the dinakaran murder case. last month, the yellow shawlist ridiculed that when some persons were planning to go to a temple, they were killed. now his own supporters have been killed by his own partymen. last week, the yellow shawlist fumed scorn on those who were agitating in favour of Ramar bridge. now his own partymen are agitating against each other.
Azagiri has not been arrested even though the charges against him are serious. azhagiri, in fact, was seen on TV flirting with other family members of the yellow shawlist.
To divert people's attention, the yellow shawlist has hurriedly asked officials to accelerate the training programme to non bramins to help them become 'archakas' in orthodox temples, even though this is against law and traditions.
will people get the better of the antics of the yellow shawlist this time? or will they fall prey to his divisive dances? only time will tell. but let us hope and pray to god for the best.

 

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Proofs & Evidences!!

SIRS - 'Rationalists' say there is no proof that hindu gods existed. but there is also no proof or evidence by which a person including the so called 'periar' and other 'rationalists' can claim that so and so is their father. it based on what a mother says . when parents of humans themselves are based on belief and not proof or evidence,what is wrong in hindus believing in gods?

 

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Like father, like son!!!

sirs - why is the yellow shawlist karunanidhi so reluctant to punish azhagiri? perhaps because, if he tries to pounce on azhagiri, azhagiri would retaliate-'Hey naina! did you not use rowdies to capture booths during chennai corporation elections? now i have used rowdies to further my interests. if i have to be arrested, you have to be arrested too!'

 

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The Ugly Of Nudity & Artistic Freedom!!!

SIRS - nude paintings are once again the subject of controversy & debate in india. 'secular' cohorts are wailing that an artist can paint anything and it is his freedom. i do not think indian laws or culture allow public nudity or commercial nudity. only private nudity that too if it is temporary, is allowed.for e.g. when a person takes bath, changes clothes, has sex, naturally he or she will be nude or naked. but this is only a temporary phase. as soon as taking bath, or changing clothes or finishing copulation, the person will shift back to some sort of clothing. nudity in any form, even if it is private but not temporary, cannot be allowed in any way. moreover

1. why are not artists who are painting nude pictures not potraying their own mothers, sisters, daughters or wives in nude?

2. will any painter in india have the courage to paint the likes of sonia maino gandhi, priyanka , brinka karat, rajdeep sardesai or prannoy roy nude or naked???

 

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sirs- always wondered why the muslims or british who destroyed so many temples all over india, never destroyed the tempes like khajuraho etc., containing nude statues! is it because these nude representations are in conformity with islamic and christian standards?????

 

[NARAS]

sirs - IMHO all potraits, photographs and statues are public and there cannot be any private photo, private potrait or private statue. because it is always possible a photo, statue or portrait could always end up in the hands of persons particularly children, youngsters whose mind may get corrupted on getting exposed to these sort of things. so the apology of some 'secularists' that private nudity is permissible is absurd.

it is quite possible that some hindus like vatsyayana tried to introduce eroticism into hindu religion. but overwhelming majority of hindus atleast in those days have never approved of even private nudity. the presence of erotic materials in some temples only shows that attempts were made by a section of hindus to introduce sexuality in religion. but this failed and did not get enough support.

there can only be two types of potraits - commercial and non commercial. a nude potrait, even if it is not commercial cannot be tolerated in the name of 'art' or 'secularism'.

 

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sirs - suppose if a person commits a murder inside a house and then says it is a 'private' act because it was commited inside a private domain and not a public place, can it be accepted? just like that to paint nude potraits and then tearfully justify saying that these were meant for private viewing only cannot be accepted.