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The Rationale behind Karma Theory

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renuka said:
This time when I was in India someone told me "Public Display of Affection is an offense in India..we Indians take this seriously but at the same time public display of urination is not an offense!"
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1. Public display of affection by say a deep kiss or an extended session of petting in public is indecent behavior in India. If any foreigner visits India he/she should understand this. If he/she does not understand this because of ignorance he/she will be just tolerated. If he/she indulges in it deliberately she/he has overstayed the hospitality and it is time for/him/her to take the flight back.

2. Lack of public conveniences is an economic problem. Governments are trying to cope up with that. Meanwhile the natural urge will take its toll depending on the holding power of the bladder and the age and health of the bladder's owner. We still do not know how Americans do that in their country-I dont think they have public conveniences built at intervals of half a kilometer all over their country. We do not know how the so called civilized world citizens do that when the bladder is full and they do not find a closed space to "do" it. May be they have learnt some technique to make it flow the reverse way for a recycling so that the critical moment is postponed usefully and beneficially. LOL.
 
sravna said:
Shri KRN ,

Well said. Discernment is a very necessary trait to do the right thing.
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Dear Sravna,

Even when I started work in a hospital as an intern the Consultant once asked all of us interns.."who are the most intelligent people in the world?"

Most of us started saying Scientists, Inventors,Physicists,Mathematicians etc,

The Consultant got real mad with all of us interns and shouted "Shameless fools..why are you not saying doctors?"

You see pity us doctors..our Consultants do not appreciate truth!

One who knows his strength and weakness rarely feels proud..I wonder why no Consultant or College Principle knew this!LOL
 
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Vaagmi said:
1. Public display of affection by say a deep kiss or an extended session of petting in public is indecent behavior in India. If any foreigner visits India he/she should understand this. If he/she does not understand this because of ignorance he/she will be just tolerated. If he/she indulges in it deliberately she/he has overstayed the hospitality and it is time for/him/her to take the flight back.

2. Lack of public conveniences is an economic problem. Governments are trying to cope up with that. Meanwhile the natural urge will take its toll depending on the holding power of the bladder and the age and health of the bladder's owner. We still do not know how Americans do that in their country-I dont think they have public conveniences built at intervals of half a kilometer all over their country. We do not know how the so called civilized world citizens do that when the bladder is full and they do not find a closed space to "do" it. May be they have learnt some technique to make it flow the reverse way for a recycling so that the critical moment is postponed usefully and beneficially. LOL.
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Vaagmi Ji,

Out here in Msia we can never see anyone pissing in public..even Indian contract workers do not piss in public here.

Somehow everyone can hold it till he/she reaches a destination with an outlet.

Dont ask me how and why..its mind control I guess when you know that the police will be after you if you piss in public!LOL
 
renuka said:
Dear Sravna,

Even when I started work in a hospital as an intern the Consultant once asked all of us interns.."who are the most intelligent people in the world?"

Most of us started saying Scientists, Inventors,Physicists,Mathematicians etc,

The Consultant got real mad with all of us interns and shouted "Shameless fools..why are you not saying doctors?"

You see pity us doctors..our Consultants do not appreciate truth!

One who knows his strength and weakness rarely feels proud..I wonder why no Consultant or College Principle knew this!LOL
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Pep talks are supposed to be just that -pep talks. No one takes it seriously. The giver indulges in it thinking he is rousing the spirit of the listeners. The listeners are usually bored and think he is a poor entertainer. LOL.
 
renuka said:
Dear Sravna,

Even when I started work in a hospital as an intern the Consultant once asked all of us interns.."who are the most intelligent people in the world?"

Most of us started saying Scientists, Inventors,Physicists,Mathematicians etc,

The Consultant got real mad with all of us interns and shouted "Shameless fools..why are you not saying doctors?"

You see pity us doctors..our Consultants do no appreciate truth!
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Dear Renuka,

One needs to have firm belief in oneself. It need not be by comparing with others. In fact the most authentic belief is one that does not compare with others. If one does not have that belief, one needs to acquire it for one's own peace.
 
sravna said:
Dear Renuka,

One needs to have firm belief in oneself. It need not be by comparing with others. In fact the most authentic belief is one that does not compare with others. If one does not have that belief, one needs to acquire it for one's own peace.
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Agreed..but when faced with testing times sometimes even this firm believe in one self can decline only to rise again and to decline again from time to time.

I think its human to lose belief and gain strength from time to time.

Knowing this fact one should surely not feel too proud of anything.
 
Renuka ji In any profession one has to put in a lot of effort in the beginning - to gain expertise in it. So I dont see anything wrong in the Principal trying to make students work/learn hard through the medium of pride in profession. Once a person has gained expertise in it - its better that one eschews all pride or Aham-mamata-bhavam in it and thinks of himself solely as an instrument of God. This way one will easily be able to get into *the zone* or *flow* experience which is considered the peak or best situation to be in while doing his job.
 
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renuka said:
Vaagmi Ji,

Out here in Msia we can never see anyone pissing in public..even Indian contract workers do not piss in public here.

Somehow everyone can hold it till he/she reaches a destination with an outlet.

Dont ask me how and why..its mind control I guess when you know that the police will be after you if you piss in public!LOL
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I agree. If you have to choose between losing your life and making do with smelly clothes, anyone would prefer the later. LOL. Mind control won't work in this. For aged and sick people bladder control can be a real problem. Even in this I am told, the women are blessed because they, because of their anatomy, can hold for a longer time. In India too you do not find women peeing on the road side but only men do that with gay abandon.
 
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Renuka ji In any profession one has to put in a lot of effort in the beginning - to gain expertise in it. So I dont see anything wrong in the Principal trying to make students work/learn hard through the medium of pride in profession. Once a person has gained expertise in it - its better that one eschews all pride in it and thinks himself solely as an instrument of God. This way one will easily be able to get into *the zone* or *flow* in which one is at the peak while doing his job.
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In a way I agree with you..may be some need the pep talk.

I remember during convocation some of us were feeling restless cos it was taking too long but some of my friends were starry eyed..they said they felt proud that they had made it as doctors today.

Some of us felt "what?? we studied..we passed..so why feel proud?"

But others felt "This is the day I walk with my head held high that I have become a doctor"

There were some who felt proud of their achievement and there were many who felt it is part of life and no big deal cos real life in the future was yet to start.

Somehow now when I see the proud brigade..many of them have turned out to be semi con doctors who are money minded.

The one's who did not feel proud are honest in their profession.

So I guess Pride does not pay!
 
renuka said:
Agreed..but when faced with testing times sometimes even this firm believe in one self can decline only to rise again and to decline again from time to time.

I think its human to lose belief and gain strength from time to time.

Knowing this fact one should surely not feel too proud of anything.
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I am. So I am proud. I am happy, I am sad, I am angry, in short I do everything.
Perhaps those who have achieved advaita sidhdhi will not say I am and so they may not be proud. Shivoham. Shivoham. How can Shiva be proud? When there is no comparison? LOL.
 
Vaagmi said:
I am. So I am proud. I am happy, I am sad, I am angry, in short I do everything.
Perhaps those who have achieved advaita sidhdhi will not say I am and so they may not be proud. Shivoham. Shivoham. How can Shiva be proud? When there is no comparison? LOL.
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Narayana!
 
renuka said:
Agreed..but when faced with testing times sometimes even this firm believe in one self can decline only to rise again and to decline again from time to time.

I think its human to lose belief and gain strength from time to time.

Knowing this fact one should surely not feel too proud of anything.
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Dear Renuka,

Remember I am not saying be proud of your achievements or wealth or beauty or even intelligence because that pride can make you do both good and bad but being proud of the higher values one practices is guaranteed to not make them do any bad. I am only saying it is harmless and of course such a person will eventually find a way to a totally balanced state. But my point is one has to first try to reach that state.
 
sravna said:
Dear Renuka,

Remember I am not saying be proud of your achievements or wealth or beauty or even intelligence because that pride can make you do both good and bad but being proud of the higher values one practices is guaranteed to not make them do any bad. I am only saying it is harmless and of course such a person will eventually find a way to a totally balanced state. But my point is one has to first try to reach that state.
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But what if some of us never had this pride of higher values to start with?

BTW Sravna..I want some input on this..its funny too.

Today morning I woke up with a voice in my head telling me "Search the clear skies where the angels are blue"

I was wondering what did I dream of last night..what did I see on TV last night! Nope I did not see Smurfs!LOL

But frankly speaking "where is it where angels are blue that too in a clear sky?"
 
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Sravna I found it..Blue Angels!

The Blue Angels is the United States Navy's flight demonstration squadron. The Blue Angels team was formed in 1946,[SUP][1][/SUP] making it the second oldest formal flying aerobatic team (under the same name) in the world, after the French Patrouille de France formed in 1931. The Blue Angels' six demonstration pilots fly the F/A-18 Hornet, typically in more than 70 shows at 34 locations throughout the United States each year, where they still employ many of the same practices and techniques used in their aerial displays in 1946. An estimated 11 million spectators view the squadron during air shows each full year. The Blue Angels also visit more than 50,000 people in a standard show season (March through November) in schools and hospitals.[SUP][2][/SUP] Since 1946, the Blue Angels have flown for more than 260 million spectators.[SUP][3][/SUP]
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I guess I need to take a trip to US!LOL
 
renuka said:
But what if some of us never had this pride of higher values to start with?

BTW Sravna..I want some input on this..its funny too.

Today morning I woke up with a voice in my head telling me "Search the clear skies where the angels are blue"

I was wondering what did I dream of last night..what did I see on TV last night! Nope I did not see Smurfs!LOL

But frankly speaking "where is it where angels are blue that too in a clear sky?"
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Dear Renuka,

I like to categorize people into two basic types, one with the brain and the others with the brain and the mind. Obviously the former are not sensitive to higher values and nothing human can convince them about them. So I do see your point.
 
You will be invited to present a paper in a medical conference in USA soon. Keep the antenna tuned as this is a good omen. After the conference is over normally a visit/entertainment programme is arranged by the organizers. Blue angel demo may be in it.

I am speaking from experience.

renuka said:
Sravna I found it..Blue Angels!



I guess I need to take a trip to US!LOL
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sravna said:
Dear Smt .RR,

Scantily clad females have never been a bother for me.
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Me too for that matter any non clad person male or female does not bother me..I have seen all shapes and sizes in the line of my work!LOL
 
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sarang said:
You will be invited to present a paper in a medical conference in USA soon. Keep the antenna tuned as this is a good omen. After the conference is over normally a visit/entertainment programme is arranged by the organizers. Blue angel demo may be in it.

I am speaking from experience.
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Dear Sarang ji,

A GP is never invited for any paper presentation becos we are not specialists.

So I am wondering how I am going to see Blue Angels in the Sky?? Some other reason to go to the USA I guess.

May be I will going to Vaikuntha! Vishnu Dutas are blue isnt it and they are angels too.

For all the Narayana Narayana I have been teasing Vaishnavas may be I earned a ticket to Vaikuntha!LOL
 
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Vaagmi said:
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2. Lack of public conveniences is an economic problem. Governments are trying to cope up with that. Meanwhile the natural urge will take its toll depending on the holding power of the bladder and the age and health of the bladder's owner. We still do not know how Americans do that in their country-I dont think they have public conveniences built at intervals of half a kilometer all over their country. We do not know how the so called civilized world citizens do that when the bladder is full and they do not find a closed space to "do" it. May be they have learnt some technique to make it flow the reverse way for a recycling so that the critical moment is postponed usefully and beneficially. LOL.
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Looks like nobody here seems to have heard of the Trucker Bombs in USA.

These "trucker bombs" are becoming a big problem for America's highways.

Say you are a male long-distance truck driver. You have been driving for over twenty hours straight. . You have been drinking a lot of coffee and Gatorade or Coca-Cola, and probably on “meth” (methamphetamine) too, to keep you awake. And you still have to keep on driving for several more hours.

And you also have to pee. What's a guy to do?

Pee into one of the empty Gatorade bottles that litter your truck. Then cap that bottle, and throw it out your window. That's a trucker bomb.

Convenient as it is for the truckers, who will clean up all those bottles full of urine? Highway clean-up crews are pretty tired of having to pick up someone else's pee bottle. A lot of clean-up crews are volunteer organizations who operate out of a sense of civic pride. If they quit cleaning up the highways, America will end up in discarded McDonald's wrappers (guess what it contains) and pee-filled soda bottles.

Clean up is also provided by each state's Department of Transportation. In Utah alone, the maintenance crews are handling an estimated 20,000 urine bottles a year. One small county in Washington State counted 2,666 bottles of urine over the course of a year; as well as "67 feces covered items not including diapers."

This human waste is technically a biohazard. It's dangerous to have people cleaning it up, and it's difficult to get rid of. Also, it's super gross. If you have the bad luck to be mowing the shoulder on the wrong stretch of highway, when the mower blades hit the bottles "they explode. The operator ends up wearing this stuff."

There is another problem too. A lot of people are under the mistaken belief that a trucker's urine still contains useable amounts of “meth”. Desperate “meth” addicts have been known to scavenge the shoulders of America's highway, looking for discarded bottles of trucker urine which they can drink !!

28 March 2012 freakyphenomena.com/article/trucker-bombs

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[FONT=&quot]Now authorities suspect a crossover into the general driving population, judging by the amount of bottles surprising road crews. Crews in southeastern Washington state reported over 1,000 bottles in a one month period for a 100 mile section of highway.[/FONT]
 
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Jugs of Pee

Jugs of Pee appear to be a national epidemic in America. The littering of highways with urine-filled plastic bottles is traditionally linked to weak bladdered long-haul rig drivers, despite official denials by trucker trade associations.

Now authorities suspect a crossover into the general driving population, judging by the amount of bottles surprising road crews. Crews in southeastern Washington state reported over 1,000 bottles in a one month period for a 100 mile section of highway.

The bottles are predominantly plastic beverage containers from convenience stores -- milk, juice, etc. Capped and thrown from a moving vehicle, some retain their seal. In the summer heat, urine bottles build up pressure and when nudged by a clean-up crew may explode.

Truck drivers officially condemn the practice, and feel they have been unfairly stained with accusations. But then there's the case of the big rig driver found dead in a one-vehicle accident in Utah, his pants down around his knees and an open plastic bottle of urine on the cab floor....

The Jugs of Pee issue fades into insignificance when compared to Bags o' BM problem. Crews are stumbling upon plastic bags containing human feces. With Jugs of Pee, drivers don't have to slow down to commit the action. How do drivers manage this BM feat?

So, India, be proud - you are not alone with hygiene problem!!
 
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