On Vishitadvaita Philosophy...

[malgova.mango]

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no no don't get me wrong

i want to see the non-god part clearly that's why I pose the questions. It is connected to your reply

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

Ok... now I say that you and me are not god... do you accept?

 

[malgova.mango]

no i don't accept it

infact it is just the opposite

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

no i don't accept it

infact it is just the opposite

Prove it please...

I am certainly not god nor have attained that state...

If you have, can you please create a new set of universe?

Pls do not take this as vidhanda vaadham...

 

[malgova.mango]

what i want to know from you is which part in me and you is non-god as per VA
because VA explains antaryami for both of us is GOD

then which part is non-god

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

what i want to know from you is which part in me and you is non-god as per VA
because VA explains antaryami for both of us is GOD

then which part is non-god

Your reply to my below post will bring out the fact...

 

[malgova.mango]

well you meditate on the Vishaya for "I" come after 10 days, no talk for the next 10 days

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

Just because one has fathered a child, can it be inferred that they are one and the same?

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

well you meditate on the Vishaya for "I" come after 10 days, no talk for the next 10 days

You refuse to answer... is that it?

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

I have been replying to your queries incessantly... but when confronted with a simple question, you draw back...?

 

[malgova.mango]

no this is the answer

 

[malgova.mango]

simple.....ha ha ha...

Brahma vidai ngganum - simplea sollitelle

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

Tell me in simple terms... assume that am a simpleton here ( i guess that you have already done so).. and explain by way of replying to my query...

I just want to know that.

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

simple.....ha ha ha...

Brahma vidai ngganum - simplea sollitelle

appo explain pannungo... dont circumvent my query

 

[malgova.mango]

you obey this rules first-

attend a structured teaching...

meditate on the subject matter

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

so you have no answer... fine...

obey pannanuma, koodatha apdeengaradhu ennoda decision... summa discussion ku vandhootu, poyi meditate pannu, structured lessons kathuko na? jaga vaangarel nu thaan artham...

Structured aa thaan indha gnyanam varanum nu vidhi illai... unstructured aa niraiya mystics irundhirukka... pls ponder over it...

In spite of your knowledge, you seem to be veiled by your own will...

 

[s007bala]

THAT IS un-explainable. THIS (CREATION) IS ALSO un-explainable.
FROM THAT un-explainable (I.E. BRAHMAN ONLY) THIS un-explainable HAS COME OUT (CREATION)
BUT EVEN THOUGH THIS un-explainable HAS COME OUT OF THAT un-explainable
YET THAT un-explainable REMAINS un-explainable ONLY.

(i.e. Brahman remains unaffected, retains His/Her/Its fullness and completeness.)

 

[happyhindu]

yagya yagyam gachha yagyapatim gachha svam yonim gachha svaha-a (yajur 8.22)

literal: go yagya, go yagyapatim, go to the yoni of yourself.
interpreted: to know the true nature of your soul identify completely with it.

..shraddhayam satya-mapyatay..(yajur 19.30)

thru resolute will, the seeker obtains consecration. By consecration obtains humilty. Thru humility, reverence and faith. And by faith comes the knowledge of the truth.

Rig 10.90.21 :

..having gained knowledge of brahman, the intellectuals advocate the path of devotion as means of salvation...

 

[s007bala]

Isha vasya midam sarvam
The entire universe is pervaded by God
Sarve amritasya putrah
We are all the children of God
And we live in god as god lives in us.Realise the self within self.
sb



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[happyhindu]

Sarve amritasya putrah
We are all the children of God​

There are so many nice things in theory....was doing all that referencing, copying and pasting from books (which takes effort) specifically for those that go by theory and fundamentals alone...but i suppose it wud be useless, esp if the fixation is to 'prove' rather than to follow..

 

[s007bala]

H H

One shud follow their conscience.

sb

 

[malgova.mango]

so you have no answer... fine...

obey pannanuma, koodatha apdeengaradhu ennoda decision... summa discussion ku vandhootu, poyi meditate pannu, structured lessons kathuko na? jaga vaangarel nu thaan artham...

Structured aa thaan indha gnyanam varanum nu vidhi illai... unstructured aa niraiya mystics irundhirukka... pls ponder over it...

In spite of your knowledge, you seem to be veiled by your own will...

sesh!

answer is given and known - it is no secret now. We all know what Pramana Shastram says by ways of Mahavakyas. Mahavakayas have only literal meaning and no gauna artham.

only by falling at the feet of a competent GURU with proper shraddha and attitude from your side you will get connected.

I see no other way.

apart from that......

Brahma vidya is not for all, only for earnest seekers - others , like one interested in karma yoga , will only get confused by the teaching.

The teaching is kept secret in days of yore, only now the teaching is available in open.

So there are valid issues behind my will...

Dharmam can be openly enquired as it bring Hitham to all. But so much politics is woven around it, and is very messy now.

Regards

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

mango... the way to arrive at the answers as well as the ultimate is not a great secret... it is as you said... one needs to strive for it...

but the paths are many... it is just not A, it is my humble opinion... oru theory aa disprove panradhu easy... follow panradhu thaan kashtam... adhai neengalum yosicchu parungo...

My intention is not to belittle A or D or VA... we should follow the path that suits us the best...

 

[malgova.mango]

ore sutrathai eduthundu - neenga onu solli, ennoruthar enonnu solli, antha 2'm me pramana shastrathukku porunthallena - kelvi ezha thaan seiyum.

siddhantam pannalenna - kelvie illai.

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

adhu thaan sir beauty... neenga epdi paarkarelo apdi thonruvar bhagavan...

adhunaale thaan epdi vazhipattalum avaraye vandhu serum nu avare sollirukaar...

idhu thaan correct vazhi nu oruthar sonna, avara pola "aham" kondirukaravar vera yaarum ille... venumna andha vazhi avarukku correcta irukkalaam... matter avlo thaan...

orutharukku kelvi ketu gnyanam varadhu, inorutharukku surrender through love, vera orutharukku duty...

endha velaya layichu seiyaromo adhuve bhagawanukkaana margama aayiduradhu...