Dear Sri Desi Ji,
Let me first ask Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji's forgiveness. He started this thread, I am sure with all eagerness to tell others his ideas about Hinduism. I ask his indulgence one last time. I will not be responding to you Sri Desi Ji, under this thread anymore after this. If you want to take our discussion elsewhere, please do so; I will respond.
Now, my response to Sri malgova.mango Ji and you so far is not because I believe in something and am defending it. It is rather because Sri mm Ji and yourself are intent on promulgating what is the 'Truth' about Hinduism based on your own beliefs.
The issue is not what I believe in, not even what Maha Periaval said, but rather, what transpired here in the Forum. Sri malgova.mango Ji could not appreciate the idea expressed by Sri Nacchinarkinyan Ji and so was harsh. Sri Ram Ji joined in, talking something about 'Vipareeta Buddhi' as if Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji's idea was far fetched.
I just gave you two examples of self realized giants in Hinduism (Sri Vivekananda Ji, who is attested as self realized by no other that Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi and Paramahamsa Yogananda, who is recognized as self realized, hence the title 'Paramahamsa') who have a different view than our Maha Periaval about who is a Brahmin. Yet you keep on citing Maha Periaval as the authority. Please understand that He is an authority when it comes to the Advatins like me. But, do you know that Sri Ramanuja Acharyal converted a huge number of non-brahmins in to being brahmins? Do you know that the way Sri Madhvacharys interpreted our Srutis was so different from what Sri Shankaracharya interpreted the Srutis, so much so that the Dwaitha philosophy has more in common with monotheism than the monism that the 'Advaitha' preaches.
So, just because these folks who are viewed as Brahmins nonetheless are not 'brahmins', because you accept Sri Shankaracharua's interpretation only?
And just by a sentence, you have eliminated the believers of the Ramakrishna Matam and the followers of Swamy Vivekananda's teachings, being included in your vision of Hinduism. How sad! I guess you are so learned, you can sit in judgement of people like Swamy Vivekananda! Guess what? I am no morse shocked. I know now what I am dealing with here.
This sort of dogmatic view based on different views within Hinduism leads nowhere. Unless we understand the many stranded views of whole of Hinduism and appreciate it, there will be no unity. This is the curse, precisely exhibited by the likes of you, who are wedded to one idea, just beacause of the sect you belong to. A strength of Hinduism that allows for worship in multitude is now turned in to a strict dogma, on an issue that has no relevance today.
Sir, you did attack me, asking me to go elsewhere. Folks who read these threads and understand where I am coming from understand that. But believe me, I don't believe in any victim hood. I believe in showing the people who you really are.
An intolerant person who sticks to an idea without any consideration to the multiplicity of ideas within Hinduism.
Science means starting with a hypothesis and examining it in the light of experimental truth. Sir, I am sorry to say, you are no scientist.
I will not be responding to you anymore in this thread.
Regards,
KRS
Let me first ask Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji's forgiveness. He started this thread, I am sure with all eagerness to tell others his ideas about Hinduism. I ask his indulgence one last time. I will not be responding to you Sri Desi Ji, under this thread anymore after this. If you want to take our discussion elsewhere, please do so; I will respond.
Now, my response to Sri malgova.mango Ji and you so far is not because I believe in something and am defending it. It is rather because Sri mm Ji and yourself are intent on promulgating what is the 'Truth' about Hinduism based on your own beliefs.
The issue is not what I believe in, not even what Maha Periaval said, but rather, what transpired here in the Forum. Sri malgova.mango Ji could not appreciate the idea expressed by Sri Nacchinarkinyan Ji and so was harsh. Sri Ram Ji joined in, talking something about 'Vipareeta Buddhi' as if Sri Nacchinarkiniyan Ji's idea was far fetched.
I just gave you two examples of self realized giants in Hinduism (Sri Vivekananda Ji, who is attested as self realized by no other that Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi and Paramahamsa Yogananda, who is recognized as self realized, hence the title 'Paramahamsa') who have a different view than our Maha Periaval about who is a Brahmin. Yet you keep on citing Maha Periaval as the authority. Please understand that He is an authority when it comes to the Advatins like me. But, do you know that Sri Ramanuja Acharyal converted a huge number of non-brahmins in to being brahmins? Do you know that the way Sri Madhvacharys interpreted our Srutis was so different from what Sri Shankaracharya interpreted the Srutis, so much so that the Dwaitha philosophy has more in common with monotheism than the monism that the 'Advaitha' preaches.
So, just because these folks who are viewed as Brahmins nonetheless are not 'brahmins', because you accept Sri Shankaracharua's interpretation only?
And just by a sentence, you have eliminated the believers of the Ramakrishna Matam and the followers of Swamy Vivekananda's teachings, being included in your vision of Hinduism. How sad! I guess you are so learned, you can sit in judgement of people like Swamy Vivekananda! Guess what? I am no morse shocked. I know now what I am dealing with here.
This sort of dogmatic view based on different views within Hinduism leads nowhere. Unless we understand the many stranded views of whole of Hinduism and appreciate it, there will be no unity. This is the curse, precisely exhibited by the likes of you, who are wedded to one idea, just beacause of the sect you belong to. A strength of Hinduism that allows for worship in multitude is now turned in to a strict dogma, on an issue that has no relevance today.
Sir, you did attack me, asking me to go elsewhere. Folks who read these threads and understand where I am coming from understand that. But believe me, I don't believe in any victim hood. I believe in showing the people who you really are.
An intolerant person who sticks to an idea without any consideration to the multiplicity of ideas within Hinduism.
Science means starting with a hypothesis and examining it in the light of experimental truth. Sir, I am sorry to say, you are no scientist.
I will not be responding to you anymore in this thread.
Regards,
KRS
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