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Are We Really Concerned About Our Community?????Let us do a Retrospective Analysis

Brahmanyan

Well-known member
hi

Amish Style life is not for everyone.

but Amish style still surviving in pennsylvania.....still sucessfulll for some...may not be for everyone..
like agraharam life is not for everyone....still its part of community survival..

Dear Sri tbs,
Your comments inspired me to know more about the life style of this unique community Amish, about which Sri Prasad has also mentioned in his message.
"Amish believe that God has called them to a simple life of faith, discipline, dedication and humility. They believe that the Amish religion should be practiced, not displayed, and translated into daily living rather than focused on tangible symbols or complicated religious rituals. Their belief is that God has a personal and abiding interest in their lives, families and communities is the force that holds them together in spite of the pressures of the outside world."
What a wonderful concept !
Our previous generations of Brahmins led a simple life in Agraharams spending their life in studies and religious activities, without concern for earning. But times have changed and to look back is futile.
Now there are attempts by builders to build Agraharam style of retirement homes for the community in South mainly around Coimbatore and Palakkad.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 

tbs

Well-known member
Dear Sri tbs,
Your comments inspired me to know more about the life style of this unique community Amish, about which Sri Prasad has also mentioned in his message.
"Amish believe that God has called them to a simple life of faith, discipline, dedication and humility. They believe that the Amish religion should be practiced, not displayed, and translated into daily living rather than focused on tangible symbols or complicated religious rituals. Their belief is that God has a personal and abiding interest in their lives, families and communities is the force that holds them together in spite of the pressures of the outside world."
What a wonderful concept !
Our previous generations of Brahmins led a simple life in Agraharams spending their life in studies and religious activities, without concern for earning. But times have changed and to look back is futile.
Now there are attempts by builders to build Agraharam style of retirement homes for the community in South mainly around Coimbatore and Palakkad.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
hi

i visited this place some time back....without electricity and mobile phones are banned in Amish village..

ppl still living there...they live in natural organic way....as their ancestors from dutch immigrants..
 
instead of asking every one to be the same encourage diversity..everyone is born differently and will live and die differently...a garden must have different types of flowers....else will become monotonous....6 Core Principles are essential which I mentioned earlier but other dimensions of life have to be diverse...nature likes diversity...right from single celled organisms to galaxies u see so much diversity....then how can humans be of only one kind...
 

Brahmanyan

Well-known member
Similar Community named "Navadarshanam" is there near Bangalore on the borders of Tamil Nadu, near Thali. I have copied the following details from their brochure.

"Navadarshanam is a small community founded in 1990, located in rural Tamil Nadu adjoining a reserve forest about 50km from Bangalore. We have been exploring alternatives to the modern way of living and thinking, seeking both ecological balance and inner peace. We have experimented in the areas of eco-restoration and wilderness preservation, alternative energy, sustainable organic farming, water harvesting, health and healing as well as in promoting healthier and traditional foods.

We have also helped create and continue to guide the activities of a food initiative operated by the villagers that offers organic, wholesome food choices to urban consumers while supporting rural livelihoods and preserving traditional skills and farming ecosystems."

I used to visit this place many times to attend their annual meets previously. Its a semi forest area.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 

prasad1

Gold Member
Gold Member
hi

Amish Style life is not for everyone.

but Amish style still surviving in pennsylvania.....still sucessfulll for some...may not be for everyone..

like agraharam life is not for everyone....still its part of community survival..

OK, yes they are surviving.
But let us ask our children. How many of them are willing to settle for that lifestyle.
No-one stopped us from becoming a hermit, and that is exactly what our ancestors did.
 

Lotusinsanskrit

Active member
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livelihoods and preserving traditional skills
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From wiki
Mattur and Hosahalli are known for their efforts to support Gamaka art, which is a unique form of singing and storytelling in Karnataka. These are two of the very rare villages in India where Sanskrit is spoken as a regional language. Sanskrit is the main language of a majority of the 5,000 residents of this village situated around 8 km from Shimoga.

 

natkaushik

Active member
Tami brahmins are individualisticwith no community lotalty. Have no ideals and no empathy with the next man. Won't take part in anything which has no element of self interest. Always trying to pull down the next man. Ready give up everything traditions culture, language for advancement.
 

renuka

Gold Member
Gold Member
hi

Amish Style life is not for everyone.

but Amish style still surviving in pennsylvania.....still sucessfulll for some...may not be for everyone..

like agraharam life is not for everyone....still its part of community survival..

I seriously dont mind an Amish life style!
It would be a welcome break from this over-digital world.
Children these days do not even get fascinated by anything natural.

I have a quite a tall Henna tree in my house and some other wild flower creepers hang from it too so beautifully and when it rains the whole tree gets weighed down by the water droplets and bends like a umbrella and I was showing it to 2kids who came to my house and i told them stand under the tree and i will shake it and fragrant water droplets would fall on us.

I was the only idiot who stood under the tree enjoying the water shower singing "raindrops keep falling on my head" silently in my mind at the same time BUT the kids just looked at each other asking me? is this what you wanted to show us?

They didnt feel anything!
 

renuka

Gold Member
Gold Member
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livelihoods and preserving traditional skills
Unquote
From wiki
Mattur and Hosahalli are known for their efforts to support Gamaka art, which is a unique form of singing and storytelling in Karnataka. These are two of the very rare villages in India where Sanskrit is spoken as a regional language. Sanskrit is the main language of a majority of the 5,000 residents of this village situated around 8 km from Shimoga.


I speak Sanskrit too and I am teaching it to my students who can cope.
I also translate phrase books to Sanskrit to teach my students practical day to day spoken sanskrit.
Its really fun to speak it.
I understand its not widely spoken but practice makes perfect.

I guess we humans can preserve any part of culture we want and we need not attach a community or a caste tag to it.

I sometimes follow other cultures too which I feel is beneficial.
So let's have a global outlook after all the entire world is one family.
If we are rigid we never evolve.
 

prasad1

Gold Member
Gold Member
Tami brahmins are individualisticwith no community lotalty. Have no ideals and no empathy with the next man. Won't take part in anything which has no element of self interest. Always trying to pull down the next man. Ready give up everything traditions culture, language for advancement.


I agree with you. We are individualistic so do not participate in a group activity.
But to post in this forum may be too harsh.
 

Lotusinsanskrit

Active member
I was the only idiot who stood under the tree enjoying the water shower singing "raindrops keep falling on my head" silently in my mind at the same time BUT the kids just looked at each other asking me? is this what you wanted to show us?

They didnt feel anything!
It happened to me also when I took my nephews to travel in the train of tenkasi to aryankavu in TN and when I explained enjoying the mountains and tunnel (I knew it already) they have not shown any interest
 

Brahmanyan

Well-known member
I agree with you. We are individualistic so do not participate in a group activity.
But to post in this forum may be too harsh.
Dear Sri Prasad,
Recently I read about opinion forming wherein it states, "Social influence is the process by which we as individuals adapt our opinion, revise our beliefs, or change our behavior as a result of social interactions with other people. In our strongly interconnected society, social influence plays a prominent role in many self-organized phenomena such as cultural herding". What we write is our own reaction to the events. As the old Greek saying goes " Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" . Even the expressions and language we use differs.
Best wishes,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 

Brahmanyan

Well-known member
I seriously dont mind an Amish life style!
It would be a welcome break from this over-digital world.
Children these days do not even get fascinated by anything natural.

I have a quite a tall Henna tree in my house and some other wild flower creepers hang from it too so beautifully and when it rains the whole tree gets weighed down by the water droplets and bends like a umbrella and I was showing it to 2kids who came to my house and i told them stand under the tree and i will shake it and fragrant water droplets would fall on us.

I was the only idiot who stood under the tree enjoying the water shower singing "raindrops keep falling on my head" silently in my mind at the same time BUT the kids just looked at each other asking me? is this what you wanted to show us?

They didnt feel anything!

Yes I could understand the changed situation Doctor.
Unfortunately we have lost the life of contentment. Also to appreciate the beauty of nature.
But, in recent times, especially after the shut down of social reactions due to COVID19, kids who spend more time inside the house or the locality, realise beauty of nature and show compassion to animals and insects that visit our house. We as elders should impress to them that we are part of nature and should adopt ourselves in the cycle to enjoy the beauty in creation. As all our festivals are celebrated in line with the six seasons.
I used to tell my grand daughters that the fruits, vegetables and grains we eat are the result of the toil of so many people.
I tell them "wealth and knowledge are given to us to share, otherwise they are useless muck".
Wishing you well,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 

prasad1

Gold Member
Gold Member
Kabir das said:
Laalan ki nahin booriyan, hansan ki nahi paat
Sinhan ke nahi lehade, aur sadhu na chale jamaat

You do not have sacks of Rubies, Royal Swans do not walk in formations.
Tigers do not have a pod, and Sadhus do NOT walk in groups.
 
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prasad1

Gold Member
Gold Member
Kabir das said:
Laalan ki nahin booriyan, hansan ki nahi paat
Sinhan ke nahi lehade, aur sadhu na chale jamaat

You do not have sacks of Rubies, Royal Swans do not walk in formations.
Tigers do not have a pod, and Sadhus do in walk in groups.

It should read:

You do not have sacks of Rubies, Royal Swans do not walk in formations.
Tigers do not have a pod, and Sadhus do not walk in groups.
 

renuka

Gold Member
Gold Member
Yes I could understand the changed situation Doctor.
Unfortunately we have lost the life of contentment. Also to appreciate the beauty of nature.
But, in recent times, especially after the shut down of social reactions due to COVID19, kids who spend more time inside the house or the locality, realise beauty of nature and show compassion to animals and insects that visit our house. We as elders should impress to them that we are part of nature and should adopt ourselves in the cycle to enjoy the beauty in creation. As all our festivals are celebrated in line with the six seasons.
I used to tell my grand daughters that the fruits, vegetables and grains we eat are the result of the toil of so many people.
I tell them "wealth and knowledge are given to us to share, otherwise they are useless muck".
Wishing you well,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Very true sir.
I fully agree with you.
 
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rameshkrishnn

Member
Good Morning All
Based on the latest conversation...
One thing.. everyone wants an easy life.
I wont say self centered but not ready to come forward for a common cause..
The basic purpose of this thread itself is defeated....The entire conversation is just about the Individual perspective.... there is no common cause...."How I can Live Peacefully"..
Our peace cannot be considered as a community Change...
Thanks
K Ramesh
 

tbs

Well-known member
It happened to me also when I took my nephews to travel in the train of tenkasi to aryankavu in TN and when I explained enjoying the mountains and tunnel (I knew it already) they have not shown any interest
hi

i enjoyed too...towards KOLLAM ROUTE.....very nice train pleasant journey...now new broad guage...
the mountains are called...connected to ayyappa....
 
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rameshkrishnn

Member
Here people dont think as a community..
Resurrection of our old custom is the only way.. that too as a community...
That seems to be next to impossible.. they way people react to these posts..
People in this fourm says they dont want to be isolated from the society, but they dont mind get isolated from their own community...they want a new system.... they dont want to take any hardship.. just an easy life..
The real Brahmanan ... Impossible to find now...
K Ramesh
 

renuka

Gold Member
Gold Member
Honestly doesnt it ever strike to you that life is finally a personal path?
As much as your efforts are appreciated but at a certain age it will dawn upon us humans that its finally actually a one man show personal journey and may be people want to be alone.
 
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