Think or sink!

[Visalakshi Ramani]

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prof.dr.a.kumaravel says: September 21, 2014 at 7:17 pm
amara jeevitham amuda vaasagam -yours.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan says: October 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm
Laudable effort. Are there Sanskrit to Tamil and Tamil-Sanskrit dictionaries available? Perhaps LIFCO has published them. Please keep up the good work. May the blessings of the Universe be upon you.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan says: October 12, 2014 at 3:08 am
Thank you for your quick response. I will try to get at least a used copy of the LIFCO dictionary. I am 77 years old, and my wife lalitha and I have been here in the united States since 1969. I want to relearn Sanskrit so that I can translate some of my published Tamil poems and stories. I wish you the very best in your projects.
Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan, Norman, Oklahoma.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

மதிப்புக்குரிய திருமதி விசாலாக்ஷி ரமணி அவர்களுக்கு
நமஸ்காரம்,
தேவி பாகவதத்தை தமிழில் ஆக்க வேண்டி எடுத்த தங்களின் முயற்சி திருவினையாக்க தேவியின் துணை அருள வேண்டுகிறேன். இந்த மாபெரும் முயற்ச்சியில் தங்களுக்கு உதவும் தங்கள் மருமகளுக்கு எனது அன்புகலந்த ஆசிகள்.
ப்ரஹ்மண்யன்,
பெங்களூரு

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

உயர்திரு ப்ரஹ்மண்யன் அவர்களுக்கு,
நமஸ்காரம் ஐயா!
கந்தபுராணம் ஒரு பாக்கடல்; ஒரு மாக்கடல் என்றிருந்தேன்.
அதைச் சொல்ல எனக்கு 360 கவிதைகள் தேவைப் பட்டன.
தேவி பாகவதம் சொல்வதற்கு ~ 900 கவிதைகள் தேவைப்படுமோ?
அதனால் 12 ஸ்கந்தங்களை 6 பகுதிகளாக பிரித்துவிடப் போகின்றேன்.
அல்லது கவிதைத் தலைப்புகள் ஹனுமார் வால் போல ஆகிவிடும்.
ஊக்குவித்ததற்கு நன்றி. தேவியின் பிரகாசத்தை மருமகள் ரூபா ராமன்
அதி அற்புதமாக ஹோம் பேஜ் இல் வெளிக் கொண்டு வந்திருக்கிறார்!
நன்றி கலந்த வணக்கத்துடன்,
உங்கள் உண்மையுள்ள,
விசாலாக்ஷி ரமணி

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

கற்றோரைக் கற்றோரே காமுறுவர் என்பது :clap2:


எத்தனை நிதரிசனமான உண்மை பாருங்கள்!! :thumb:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

kalpana | October 9, 2014 at 2:22 pm
வணக்கம் அம்மா, நான் வீட்டில் தேவி பாகவதம் படிக்கலாம் என்று எண்ணுகிறேன், சரியான வழிமுறைகள் தெரியாது, உங்கள் வழிகாட்டுதல் இருந்தால் பெரும் உதவியாக இருக்கும். உங்கள் பதிலை ஆவலோடு எதிர்பார்க்கிறேன்.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

மனிதர்களில் எத்தனை ரகம்!!!:bump2:


ஏன் இத்தனை ரகம் தாயே???

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

பகலும் இரவும் போலவும், ஒளியும் நிழலும் போலவும்


நல்லவர்கள், பொல்லாதவர்கள் கலந்தே இருப்பார்கள்!!!


அதனால் தான் எச்சரிக்கை செய்கின்றார்கள்

"துஷ்டனைக் கண்டால் தூர விலகு!" என்று! :bolt:

 

[V.Balasubramani]

கற்றோரைக் கற்றோரே காமுறுவர் என்பது :clap2:


எத்தனை நிதரிசனமான உண்மை பாருங்கள்!! :thumb:

ஓதிஉணர்ந்தும் பிறர்க்கு உரைத்தும் தானடங்காப்
பேதையில் பேதையார் இல்.

நூல்களை ஓதியும், அவற்றின் பொருள் உணர்ந்தும், பிறர்க்கு எடுத்துச் சொல்லியும் தான் அவற்றின் நெறியில் அடங்கி ஒழுகாத பேதை போல் வேறு பேதையில்லை என்கிறார் திருவள்ளுவர்.:clap2:

எத்தனை நிதரிசனமான உண்மை பாருங்கள்!! :thumb:

 

[V.Balasubramani]

பகலும் இரவும் போலவும், ஒளியும் நிழலும் போலவும்


நல்லவர்கள், பொல்லாதவர்கள் கலந்தே இருப்பார்கள்!!!


அதனால் தான் எச்சரிக்கை செய்கின்றார்கள்

"துஷ்டனைக் கண்டால் தூர விலகு!" என்று! :bolt:

ஞாபகம் வருதே, ஞாபகம் வருதே, ஞாபகம் வருதே

பாதகம் செய்பவரைக் கண்டால் நீ
பயம் கொள்ளலாகாது பாப்பா
மோதி மிதித்து விடு பாப்பா - அவர்
முகத்தில் உமிழ்ந்து விடு பாப்பா - என்ற பாரதியின் பாடல்களும்

பாரதியின் "ரௌத்திரம் பழகு" போன்ற கோட்பாடுகளும்.:clap2:

 

[V.Balasubramani]

மனிதர்களில் எத்தனை ரகம்!!!:bump2:


ஏன் இத்தனை ரகம் தாயே???

சில மனிதர்களின் மனங்களில்தான் எத்தனை குதர்க்கம் தாயே?????

 

[Raji Ram]

Think to think elaborately with open mind, considering all the perspectives otherwise of which any amount of your personal thinking may eventually make you sink yourself.

If you could achieve detailed thinking considering various dimensions, no one can succeed in sinking you. The only thing is they can drive you away BUT can not take you away from yourself.

Dear Ravi,

The quoted post dated 24-12-2012 is getting an appreciation now!!
Someone is keen in probing right from the beginning :spy: though he considers this thread = Zero!!!!

I wonder why he accelerates this hot thread with his late entry! :lol:

Any way, all your posts here will be read at least NOW!! :ranger:

 

[Raji Ram]

Seeing the recent development in this thread, I am reminded of this:

எய்தவன் இருக்க அம்பை நோவானேன்!! (eithavan irukka ambai nOvAnEn)

 

[praveen]

The last 2 pages of this thread have been cleaned and unnecessary comments removed. Please stick to the topic and if you have nothing to say other than unwanted comments, please keep them to yourself and let the others post on topic.

 

[drb]

The last 2 pages of this thread have been cleaned and unnecessary comments removed. Please stick to the topic and if you have nothing to say other than unwanted comments, please keep them to yourself and let the others post on topic.

Dear Admin,
I didn't have any intention of posting in this thread. But after reading your post - thought to ask for some information. In what way the below posts that doesn't seem to fit the purpose of the thread is still present? (Among other implied disparaging remarks on several members of the forum.) Or maybe my understanding of the title 'Think or Sink' thread is incorrect. It maybe somebody's journal of the original starter? I am not expecting a response because I have no intention of coming to this thread at the moment. But thought to bring it to your kind attention.

venkat anantharam says: February 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm
HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE
HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE
By the Blessings of the Nature we are living in this world.your work towards knowledge,the postings and reply to the comments shows that you are wise and in a “BLISSFUL” state.
may you be BLISSFUL throughout your life and serve the people as nature does.
I sincerely bow your enlightened knowledge which in turn reflected upon us.
Thank you AMMA.
WITH LOVE,
venkat anantharam.

prof.dr.a.kumaravel says: September 21, 2014 at 7:17 pm
amara jeevitham amuda vaasagam -yours.

Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan says: October 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm
Laudable effort. Are there Sanskrit to Tamil and Tamil-Sanskrit dictionaries available? Perhaps LIFCO has published them. Please keep up the good work. May the blessings of the Universe be upon you.

Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan says: October 12, 2014 at 3:08 am
Thank you for your quick response. I will try to get at least a used copy of the LIFCO dictionary. I am 77 years old, and my wife lalitha and I have been here in the united States since 1969. I want to relearn Sanskrit so that I can translate some of my published Tamil poems and stories. I wish you the very best in your projects.
Dr. Ananth Sundara-Rajan, Norman, Oklahoma.

மதிப்புக்குரிய திருமதி விசாலாக்ஷி ரமணி அவர்களுக்கு
நமஸ்காரம்,
தேவி பாகவதத்தை தமிழில் ஆக்க வேண்டி எடுத்த தங்களின் முயற்சி திருவினையாக்க தேவியின் துணை அருள வேண்டுகிறேன். இந்த மாபெரும் முயற்ச்சியில் தங்களுக்கு உதவும் தங்கள் மருமகளுக்கு எனது அன்புகலந்த ஆசிகள்.
ப்ரஹ்மண்யன்,
பெங்களூரு

 

[V.Balasubramani]

JR Ji,

Unfortunately your posting has since been removed by the Moderator.

Thank you for your response.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Dear Admin,

I have the following representation. Is there any justifiable reason that the posts contained in the last two pages are derogatory in nature?

But this Member has been going on posting derogatory comments, teasing other Members, insulting them, etc.

There are ample evidences to prove this.

Or will you guarantee that this Member will not pass derogatory comments, tease or humiliate any other Members in future. She has been doing this.

You cannot be bias. Please render justice.

 

[praveen]

This is my take on the whole thing:-

Incidents like this should be dealt in private and in a civil way. This is not a place for mudslinging or you said this, he said this, she said this... Bringing back old posts and talking about them now is generally not a good idea.
Past is past and nothing can be done about it.

Some of what has been pointed out are quotes and read them as quotes and not as a veiled message. Even if someone posted something like that, ignore it for it is not worth anybody's time - yours, mine and others reading them.

Only if we give them some importance, it becomes an hydra.. Ignore them and it will diminish in value and importance.

 

[drb]

This is my take on the whole thing:-

Incidents like this should be dealt in private and in a civil way. This is not a place for mudslinging or you said this, he said this, she said this... Bringing back old posts and talking about them now is generally not a good idea.
Past is past and nothing can be done about it.

Some of what has been pointed out are quotes and read them as quotes and not as a veiled message. Even if someone posted something like that, ignore it for it is not worth anybody's time - yours, mine and others reading them.

Only if we give them some importance, it becomes an hydra.. Ignore them and it will diminish in value and importance.

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[TD]My gentle thoughts.......
After all, you are the administrator. Its your house and you make the rules. Either we abide by or get away. no problem.

First of all, I think people need to 'agree to disagree'. We all come from different background, age, experience etc. Courtesy and respect should be maintained while sharing. Belittling others is unacceptable, especially when more religious and spiritual discussions are happening. It is illogical.

But from an ethical point -
so it is ok to mudsling through veiled messages?. If you read this entire thread, it looks like somebody has vented out enormously on other members since its inception. So will it be ok, if each member starts a thread like this and vents out on other members? IMHO, packaging a rotten egg with a gold foil doesn't diminish the stink nor make the taste better.

If a member is unable to maintain decency, then I feel it is appropriate to ask them to correct themselves. There is nothing wrong with it. After all, we all must have kids and know how to discipline and also get disciplined.

If this derogatory behavior is encouraged, then the forum posts will become like garbage dump, with members sifting through to find occasional valuable items.
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[praveen]

First of all, I think people need to 'agree to disagree'. We all come from different background, age, experience etc. Courtesy and respect should be maintained while sharing. Belittling others is unacceptable, especially when more religious and spiritual discussions are happening. It is illogical.

Agreed.

But from an ethical point -
so it is ok to mudsling through veiled messages?. If you read this entire thread, it looks like somebody has vented out enormously on other members since its inception. So will it be ok, if each member starts a thread like this and vents out on other members? IMHO, packaging a rotten egg with a gold foil doesn't diminish the stink nor make the taste better.

This is where it gets interesting. I have gone through this topic and so have many others (including moderators, external people whom i ask for advice when in need). Everything is in the eye of the beholder.
I read them as quotes. So it ends there for me. I don't give it much of a scientific analysis to it.

But if someone else thinks they are veiled messages, then does that mean all the others who have read them before are wrong?

If a member is unable to maintain decency, then I feel it is appropriate to ask them to correct themselves. There is nothing wrong with it. After all, we all must have kids and know how to discipline and also get disciplined.

Engage them in private. Talk to them about it private and sort it out. The forum is not a place for a pitched battle. Neither i have the time or the resources to go through all the posts, find out who said what and be a judge.
I have said this before, the forum provides a platform. How one uses it is upto them.

If you think, someone is unable to maintain decency, talk with them in private and if you unable to come to a solution, ignore them completely. Why do you (not you, in general) have to engage them in various threads?

If i do not like x's posts, i will simple ignore their posts and move on.

 

[drb]

This is where it gets interesting. I have gone through this topic and so have many others (including moderators, external people whom i ask for advice when in need). Everything is in the eye of the beholder.
I read them as quotes. So it ends there for me. I don't give it much of a scientific analysis to it.
But if someone else thinks they are veiled messages, then does that mean all the others who have read them before are wrong?

If one reads a middle chapter from a book, it is hard to get any essence. Only the concerned parties will know.

You just deleted an offending veiled post by VR member calling some other member as 'drunken monkey' in the name of quoting pancha thantra. If it has to be read in quotes, then I am not sure.

Hence I asked whether all members can opt for such a journal.

If i do not like x's posts, i will simple ignore their posts and move on.

This is what have been done. But sometimes, constant poking gets on the receiving person's nerves and hence try to ward it off. If it fails come to you because you are the administrator and housekeeper.

I think as you said, ignore the posts/offending member and let their posts stand tall as a witness to their character.

Thank you for your input.
I shall end my discussion with this, because it isn't a prudent usage of your time and mine (and other members as well).

 

[praveen]

But sometimes, constant poking gets on the receiving person's nerves and hence try to ward it off. If it fails come to you because you are the administrator and housekeeper.

And i try my best to diffuse the situation and bring a solution. I have failed many times, but i see them as an another learning in this admin role.

 

[drb]

And i try my best to diffuse the situation and bring a solution. I have failed many times, but i see them as an another learning in this admin role.

Thanks for understanding. No hard feelings. After all, as I said before, its your house and you make the call. You are the final authority to run the show as you wish.
We can just point out politely of the problems. Either we like your decisions or let it go.

Take care.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

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[TD]My gentle thoughts.......
After all, you are the administrator. Its your house and you make the rules. Either we abide by or get away. no problem.

First of all, I think people need to 'agree to disagree'. We all come from different background, age, experience etc. Courtesy and respect should be maintained while sharing. Belittling others is unacceptable, especially when more religious and spiritual discussions are happening. It is illogical.

But from an ethical point -
so it is ok to mudsling through veiled messages?. If you read this entire thread, it looks like somebody has vented out enormously on other members since its inception. So will it be ok, if each member starts a thread like this and vents out on other members? IMHO, packaging a rotten egg with a gold foil doesn't diminish the stink nor make the taste better.

If a member is unable to maintain decency, then I feel it is appropriate to ask them to correct themselves. There is nothing wrong with it. After all, we all must have kids and know how to discipline and also get disciplined.

If this derogatory behavior is encouraged, then the forum posts will become like garbage dump, with members sifting through to find occasional valuable items.[/TD]
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Dear Admn,

I think there can be no appeal better than this.

Anyway having said that there is no point in bring back old posts, absolutely, do you have any point in removing the new posts of newbies.

Why that was done? They are not definitely old posts. Such arbitrary act of Admn is nothing but muzzling one’s voice.

This Forum, we all believe gives one the liberty of ‘freedom of expression’ to everyone within their limits governed by the prevailing rules.

But one Member taking advantage over the others, and teasing other members, passing silly comments and behaving childishly is an act richly deserves to be condemned.

What is the guarantee that Admn provides to other Members that this Member will not resort to her regular practice of teasing and humiliation.

Why not the Member in question also be advised to ignore the comments passed by others on her.

This representation is only in the interest of the Forum to maintain better discipline among such Members.

Believe that you will take my appeal in the right spirit.