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Supporting the future brahmins

gsarathy

Member
India is a cummunity bound nature/god/cult practices believing country from time unknown ...not willing to dissociate with any practice till date.Bramins have schools in the name of patasalas teaching and practicing only bramin practices for a living. All other people imitate/follow bramin practices along with their traditions.Many call for bramins even for their household religious practices since they dont have any traditional schools/patasalas though they also follow all samskaras in hindu community/caste faiths!
Now a new trend sneeks in due to technology and material advantages ....as youngsters start gaining more skills and knowledge their social behaviour at mental/ material levels leading to intercaste marriages and wish to perform all forgotten/leftout religious practices!
Now there is a big slogan demanding abolition of caste and community in hindu faith[not for muslims/christisns]
Bramins have patasalas to guide dwindling bramins ....
What about the fate of Nonbramins religious practices educaton
Who will guide the Hindu cult.[patasala is for bramins] ....but for Nonbramins and mixed
Neobramins?Unless we protect and guide Nonbramins also in religious practices we are likely to dwindle further leading to closure of many patasalas!
How to support a bramin graduate coming out from patasalas if bramins dwindle and dissuade their nithyakarmas,samskaras....due to technology advancements.
G.PARTHASARATHY.
 

prasad1

Well-known member
India is a cummunity bound nature/god/cult practices believing country from time unknown ...not willing to dissociate with any practice till date.Bramins have schools in the name of patasalas teaching and practicing only bramin practices for a living. All other people imitate/follow bramin practices along with their traditions.Many call for bramins even for their household religious practices since they dont have any traditional schools/patasalas though they also follow all samskaras in hindu community/caste faiths!
Now a new trend sneeks in due to technology and material advantages ....as youngsters start gaining more skills and knowledge their social behaviour at mental/ material levels leading to intercaste marriages and wish to perform all forgotten/leftout religious practices!
Now there is a big slogan demanding abolition of caste and community in hindu faith[not for muslims/christisns]
Bramins have patasalas to guide dwindling bramins ....
What about the fate of Nonbramins religious practices educaton
Who will guide the Hindu cult.[patasala is for bramins] ....but for Nonbramins and mixed
Neobramins?Unless we protect and guide Nonbramins also in religious practices we are likely to dwindle further leading to closure of many patasalas!
How to support a bramin graduate coming out from patasalas if bramins dwindle and dissuade their nithyakarmas,samskaras....due to technology advancements.
G.PARTHASARATHY.
This post should be in a separate thread.
What is it that you want to say?
Do you like Patshalas? Or are you against Patshalas?
What has Non-Brahmins got to do with this thread?
 

renuka

Well-known member
India is a cummunity bound nature/god/cult practices believing country from time unknown ...not willing to dissociate with any practice till date.Bramins have schools in the name of patasalas teaching and practicing only bramin practices for a living. All other people imitate/follow bramin practices along with their traditions.Many call for bramins even for their household religious practices since they dont have any traditional schools/patasalas though they also follow all samskaras in hindu community/caste faiths!
Now a new trend sneeks in due to technology and material advantages ....as youngsters start gaining more skills and knowledge their social behaviour at mental/ material levels leading to intercaste marriages and wish to perform all forgotten/leftout religious practices!
Now there is a big slogan demanding abolition of caste and community in hindu faith[not for muslims/christisns]
Bramins have patasalas to guide dwindling bramins ....
What about the fate of Nonbramins religious practices educaton
Who will guide the Hindu cult.[patasala is for bramins] ....but for Nonbramins and mixed
Neobramins?Unless we protect and guide Nonbramins also in religious practices we are likely to dwindle further leading to closure of many patasalas!
How to support a bramin graduate coming out from patasalas if bramins dwindle and dissuade their nithyakarmas,samskaras....due to technology advancements.
G.PARTHASARATHY.
You would be very suprised to know that many Non Brahmins especially the ones abroad are not that much into too much nitty gritty details but are more aligned with Vedanta and Yoga.

Many join Ramakrishna Mission/ Chinmaya mission..various yogic schools of thoughts..learn up meditation..some study Sanskrit..get into chanting of mantras too.

Guidance is there by many organizations which are not into the caste divide.

Honestly when a person is ready a Guru appears.

The trend these days is to cut the chase and go Vedanta.
No one imitates anyone actually..a true spiritual aspirant is a person who aligns himself/ herself with his/her inner voice and not just imitate anyone.
So you are not entirely correct to assume a non brahmin imitates a brahmin..each person has their unique style to connect with God and None other than God.
 

ekaputra

Active member
Unless we protect and guide Nonbramins also in religious practices we are likely to dwindle further leading to closure of many patasalas!
How to support a bramin graduate coming out from patasalas if bramins dwindle and dissuade their nithyakarmas,samskaras....due to technology advancements.

What I understand from your post is that traditional practices and rituals should be kept alive, else there would be no livelihood for (Brahmin) students from Vedic Pathasalas.

Some 40+ years back when I was applying for jobs I had to produce copies of my certificates (mark sheets and qualification B.Sc etc). Photocopiers were not known then (at least not in Madras) and we had to depend on job typists and then find and beg some gazetted (I think) officer to attest these for us. It was also an age of severe unemployment problem - just imagine the number of job seekers and the number of certificates to be typed. It was a golden age for typing institutes and job typists. When photocopying machines were introduced (and straightaway on a large scale) these typing institutes and job typists were severely deprived of a huge chunk of their income.

But the photocopier did not do away with the need for typewriters. Skilled typists were still needed in large and small organizations including banks and government offices. In the early 90s the computer arrived with word processor and spreadsheet programs installed and typewriters were soon phased out. You no longer needed skilled typists (who could type accurately at 75 WPM) to type letters or even lengthy documents. You could take as many prints as you needed and edit as many times as you wanted. God knows how many people who took pride in their typing skills lost their livelihood.

Did we ban the photocopier or the computer to safeguard the interests of the typists?

To expect people to perform traditional rituals to merely provide a livelihood to those coming out of Vedic Pathashalas is being unrealistic.

"Adapt or perish" is a well known and timeless maxim.

Even today there is good demand worldwide for Sanskrit scholars. There may be other closely related areas with good opportunities. If we are truly interested in the welfare of students in the Vedic Pathashalas we should probably guide them to pursue avenues where there are good opportunities (like acquiring good knowledge of Sanskrit - English too as it is needed for communicating - computer skills as many texts are ebooks) . I am not for a moment suggesting that we should close Vedic Pathashalas or discourage Vedic studies.
 

prasad1

Well-known member
What I understand from your post is that traditional practices and rituals should be kept alive, else there would be no livelihood for (Brahmin) students from Vedic Pathasalas.

Some 40+ years back when I was applying for jobs I had to produce copies of my certificates (mark sheets and qualification B.Sc etc). Photocopiers were not known then (at least not in Madras) and we had to depend on job typists and then find and beg some gazetted (I think) officer to attest these for us. It was also an age of severe unemployment problem - just imagine the number of job seekers and the number of certificates to be typed. It was a golden age for typing institutes and job typists. When photocopying machines were introduced (and straightaway on a large scale) these typing institutes and job typists were severely deprived of a huge chunk of their income.

But the photocopier did not do away with the need for typewriters. Skilled typists were still needed in large and small organizations including banks and government offices. In the early 90s the computer arrived with word processor and spreadsheet programs installed and typewriters were soon phased out. You no longer needed skilled typists (who could type accurately at 75 WPM) to type letters or even lengthy documents. You could take as many prints as you needed and edit as many times as you wanted. God knows how many people who took pride in their typing skills lost their livelihood.

Did we ban the photocopier or the computer to safeguard the interests of the typists?

To expect people to perform traditional rituals to merely provide a livelihood to those coming out of Vedic Pathashalas is being unrealistic.

"Adapt or perish" is a well known and timeless maxim.

Even today there is good demand worldwide for Sanskrit scholars. There may be other closely related areas with good opportunities. If we are truly interested in the welfare of students in the Vedic Pathashalas we should probably guide them to pursue avenues where there are good opportunities (like acquiring good knowledge of Sanskrit - English too as it is needed for communicating - computer skills as many texts are ebooks) . I am not for a moment suggesting that we should close Vedic Pathashalas or discourage Vedic studies.
Well written post.
In engineering school we learned about steam engines, may not be much use in todays world.
 
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