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Spirituality and Technology for Self and Socio economic development

The most difficult thing is to practice what we preach and the essence of spirituality is practicing what all we preach. Understanding is only the tip of practising. So the real disparity among people is not in terms of intelligence but in terms of spirituality as brilliantly identified and practised in the varna system.
 
But anti spiritual people are generally projected with analytical and creative intelligence but any intelligence itself is an illusory or imaginary equivalent of spirituality. It is necessary to align understanding with practice.
 
The most difficult thing is to practice what we preach and the essence of spirituality is practicing what all we preach. Understanding is only the tip of practising. So the real disparity among people is not in terms of intelligence but in terms of spirituality as brilliantly identified and practised in the varna system.
I somehow feel the Varna system promotes bodily indentification and we force ourselves to fit in the Varna mould when we can make better choices for ourselves.

For eg, in the Mahabharat..Yuddhishtira could have chosen NOT to gamble..gambling is a vice.
But the reason all of them gambled is because it isnt forbidden for a Kshatriya to gamble.
But honestly..even if one is a Kshatriya why drag one's self down by engaging in vice?
Gambling and alcohol are vices.
It might not be culturally forbidden for a Kshatriya hence to keep up with Kshatriya varna dharma one forces himself to gamble?

Get what I mean?
Why wrongly identify the body with a dharma of a varna and make choices that could be disastrous?


Yuddhisthira surely had the option to identify with his atma instead of his varna and refuse to gamble.

One can ask himself .." Is gambling spiritually conducive? Does it reflect divine nature?"

The answer is No!

Next question.." But according to Kshatriya varna dharma its allowed?"


Answer " The atma has no Varna..so reflect Atmic values and not bodily values"

Question " But wouldnt that be running away from one's varna duties?"

Answer " Kshatriyas are meant to uphold dharma when needed..gambling doesnt uphold dharma"


Get what I mean?

Why on earth force ourselves to behave according to varna dictates and make wrong choices in life?
 
Dear Renuka,

Bodily forces are very strong. It is necessary to channelize them in the right way. It is for that reason dharmas exist. If one does not channelize them and try to forcefully control them then adverse things happen. So better vent them but in a right way.
 
Dear Renuka,

Bodily forces are very strong. It is necessary to channelize them in the right way. It is for that reason dharmas exist. If one does not channelize them and try to forcefully control them then adverse things happen. So better vent them but in a right way.
Dharma does not always need Varna.
 
The varna system has the right coordination inbuilt in it so that the natural inclinations act in the most dharmic ways
 
Consider what happens one who has a sattvic gene becomes a king and one who has a rajassic gene becomes the advisor?
A King can be Rajasic to rule but he also can be Sattva when it comes to spirituality.
So a King can shun vices like drinking, smoking, gambling and having multiple women.
 
A King can be Rajasic to rule but he also can be Sattva when it comes to spirituality.
So a King can shun vices like drinking, smoking, gambling and having multiple women.
Balance of gunas take you to a higher level. Typically one guna dominates.
 
It is just and fair those who are blessed in terms of money, intelligence or other resources should try to help those are not fortunate enough to lead a quality life. Quality of life should more be the main focus of people than wealth, power and position. People should understand that person of average wealth can lead a better quality of life than the richest. Quantity is the domain of the physical but it is the mind that is concerned with the quality. Bodily needs have a limit. The body can tell that. Beyond that it is the mind that has to take over.
 
Health, comfort are the main factors that are concerned with the body. Money needed mainly for these. Beyond that it is excess and soon diminishing and negative returns of quality of life kicks in. On the contrary if one starts focusing on working on the mind after a point , it is endless positive returns. Then why the wrong focus?

Does one want to go from 0 to 10 and then backwards or 0 to 10 and then 10 to without limits?

For many I understand reaching 10 is important.
 
To get anything in the external world one needs to compete. One may or may not get it when the desire is big. Now consider the inner self. There is no one in that world of yours you need to compete with. It is totally yours . But the catch is your mind needs to prevail over the brain. That is the reason you need to make your mind strong to achieve all the positive results.
 
The best results and quality are attained when the mind and the brain sync. It is when you are really spiritual. You get all you desire but you desire only the right things.
 
I used to think that people who are arrogant really begin to come out of intoxication only when their ego is jolted. But the process God follows is right mix of nuance and complexity. He does not jolt in one go. That does not permanently or properly fix the problem. The objective is to make people think and not scare but equally not let them become falsely confident. This cannot work on them consciously as there will be resistance. It has to be subconscious and hence failproof. The process keeps working round the clock in our mundane lives. The fact we are blissfully unaware of it is testimony to Gods power and intelligence.

Something becomes subconsciously absorbed in many ways. For example when truth is first told in a constrained way but later is shown in an indirect but telling way it enters the subconscious than when it is presented in a convincing but direct way. What enters the subconscious keeps working in the background and is very likely to be assimilated.
 
My experience with spirituality is that its capabilities are limitless. India will rapidly shoot into a superpower if it spends enough time thinking about spirituality and establishing it as the basis of development. Let science and its practical applications co-exist with spirituality but I think for India to really outpace the rest serious embracing of spirituality is needed.
 
We very well understand that we cannot build castles in air. There has to be a practical component to our imagination or ideas. But what almost all fail to understand is we cannot build enduring things without the right imagination or ideas to support them. In other words the problem is one of illusion. Something not sustainable or vanishes off in the face of higher reality which Americans have found to their utter dismay. The right ideas invariably have to align with righteousness

Physical without menatl is illusion
Mental without physical is just imagination
Physical and mental is reality
 
One more set of correspondences is

Physical --- Past
Mental ---- Future
Spiritual --- Present

Knowledge and learning from past as well as future are required to make the present enjoyable or blissful
 
That is the reason predictions based on past data alone will not work fully well. Future has its own quality. You have to incorporate sufficient imagination into the data to make it really work.
 
You should definitely learn from the past but should also possess the quality of being able to anticipate the future which is independent of the learning. Thats when the present is close to ideal.
 
I want to make a correction. Predicting future is not just about incorporating imagination into the data but also something independent of past or the past data
 
While learning from the past involves analysis or analytical thinking, knowledge of future involves intuition and deep insights. Ideal present requires a balanced mix of both.
 

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