I have nothing.. Absolutely Nothing
Seeing that I have nothing, my mothers side uncles came together and said that they will give me the small 200sqft portion in which my grandmother last lived. Initially, there was some discord but somehow all agreed and came to my father and brother so they could sign the documents (since they are also legal heirs since amma passed away). Appa shouted.. leave my family alone.
He hates my mothers side family like any proper brahmin maaplai of the 80s does. But the problem is he hates me too, I have posted a bit earlier but not in much depth regarding this problem. To touch on it lightly, he would never invite me to any event that is happening in his side of the family (Fathers side) so I am cut off from that family. And when it comes to mothers side family, he shouts and screams at everyone that they are afraid to talk to me. Like he shouted.. Leave my family alone when they came to write a small puny apartment in my name.
It so happened that my maternal uncles tried a round 2 but that was scuttled by my singaporean maternal aunt Sulo with a little help. I was severely anguished by the turmoil caused for my uncles because of my purported claim to grandmothers place so I posted that my last cousin should be considered for being heir apparent since he was the son of my grandfathers son and the lineage will continue unobstructed. Even as I called for a vote to see who was thinking what, my aunt Uthra jumped into the chat and closed the subject saying.. "You are great Da. We accept your decision and the flat will go to.. yada yada.. We will always support you." Nope. I dont know what happened behind the scenes but there were 4 men and 2 women who had to vote and one man openly said that the flat should go to me and it was going to a vote when this happened. Yup. Sulo is the one in Singapore that I wrote about.. she blocked my phone and told everyone I blocked her. But only my uncles are all in line. Still trying to help me. But not knowing what to do.
So I am.. in all points of view.. all alone. With absolutely nothing to my name.
What a ride it has been ... from top 0.1 percent (in English LOL) in school and a house captain after standing in the school pupil leader elections to top 95% in GRE and TOEFL as well as a scholarship to the USA, followed by a research thesis that was published as book totally free of cost to me and a first job as a Project Leader in SFO Bay Area place called Livermore.
to now..
Nothing.. and No one around. Even mother is long gone.
The eldest uncle is still telling me.. Forget everything.. I will get you a PhD admission.. you can read and write. Get the degree and work as a professor in some college. I will try to find a bride for you. You can settle down even now.
I dont know what to do.. After all that happened and the fact that I am 45 now... and mentally ill.
Tell me..
What would you do?
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16/3/25, 3:18 pm - baby created group "*DOCUMENT WRITING*"
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16/3/25, 3:19 pm - baby: Hi all
16/3/25, 3:19 pm - sulo:
16/3/25, 3:20 pm - baby: This group *Document Writing* is created as suggested .
Request everyone added here to stay online till we finish Amma's portion documentation.
16/3/25, 3:22 pm - baby: We will share updates and any message reg the subject matter
16/3/25, 6:29 pm - Father was added
16/3/25, 3:26 pm - Father: Kindly don't take it for granted that. U can add one without consent....pl be kind enough to remove me....I have nothing to do with your documentation....all of you know I have already spoken on this subject with Shri Rangan and Shri Singam...leave me alone
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16/3/25, 4:23 pm - Sarathy Mama: Thanks for admn to create this group. Just to avoid any misunderstanding, this has been created.
Basically, the issue of acquisition of Mrs Rajalaksmi's plot of land came up after her demise.
Three times in three years it was discussed without any consensus..
Suggestions that are being given for take over:
1. Let me (G.Parthasarathy) take over as I have been taking care of alterations/modifications in the said property before being let out now.
2. All state Taxes being paid for all previous years and till year 2025-26.
3. EB and common EB (out of maintenance) taken care of till date.
4. I will be taking care of the property till my life time and after that any of the siblings wish to take over, documentation will be arranged accordingly.
5. No compensation of any sort except payment of legal expenses for transfer of name will be made.
5. Till such time the property (ground floor and first floor) will be let out. Second floor of the said property will be kept vacant, in case, any of us wish to use for temporary accommodation.
6. As this issue has been going on for long, just wanted to convey my suggestions.
Acceptance may kindly be given.
Differences in opinion may kindly be sent and will be duly discussed.
16/3/25, 4:30 pm - Sarathy Mama: This message was deleted
16/3/25, 4:34 pm - Sarathy Mama: Good afternoon. This message was sent by yourself in Documentation group.
I request yourself to be in group till documentation, since your signature is required.
With your permission, shall I request admn to include your name till process is completed?
16/3/25, 4:35 pm - Sarathy Mama:
the above message I sent to Shri V. Parthasarathy, requesting him to be added back in group. I waiting for his reply.
16/3/25, 4:43 pm - baby: This message was deleted
16/3/25, 5:19 pm - Sri Chakra: I accept the above. Please go ahead.
16/3/25, 5:21 pm - Sarathy Mama: Thanks
. I am waiting for others acceptance also.
16/3/25, 8:22 pm - Singu mama: Are all embodiments of
Goodness and high Compatibility .
Any decisive decision can be contrived with regard to Amma portion
by you all.
Any trammel will not be incurred as of me , with
regard to this subject.
Wishful wishes to all to decide the ultimatum .
16/3/25, 8:43 pm - Ranga Srgm: Let it sail smoothly.
I have already spelt
out my view. A very
thin and narrow
reconciliation is
needed. All stake
holders to the subject , pl. put
some involment
17/3/25, 9:03 pm - Sarathy Mama: Evasive words. Thanks.
17/3/25, 9:12 pm - Sarathy Mama: Respect your words. Bro. But can't wait any more as Sulo and Babu are leaving shortly. Babu has accepted. None else given clear words.
I cannot rather we cannot carry on like this ambiguous words of "saying NO in case when we have to say YES or vice versa.
And since we cannot expect a clear reply/opinion/decision to my views from all, I believe this is going to be a continuing Episode of 2020s and after.
LEAVE ME OUT OF ALL THESE THINGS.
Like you being leading lights, I say, WHEREVER YOU WANT ME TO SIGN, I AM READY FOR THE DOCUMENT TO BE WRITTEN IN WHOSE-EVER NAME.
THANKS FOR SPENDING TIME.
17/3/25, 9:38 pm - Sri Chakra: Sarathy
Please wait.
I could not understand the delay. To-morrow
I will talk to all and we will sort out. We can not prolong in this matter. Please wait.
The tenant in Amma portion must live in harmony with you and uthra.
Therefore you or Uthra must take this portion. Kindly wait.
17/3/25, 9:41 pm - Sarathy Mama: Thanks. But without a DECISIVE DECISION, this is not going to come to an Ultimatum.
Mami staying in Amm's portion will not be affected or disturbed, I believe till her life time.
17/3/25, 9:43 pm - Sri Chakra: Yes. It is good we found suitable tenenAnt to you and to your family. This is most important.
17/3/25, 9:45 pm - Sarathy Mama: It would have been finer if there is nobody there..
Probably, this issue is disturbing more. Hence I am not going to message any more on this. Please come to a consensus and as a bro or sis please one of you call me and tell the decision taken.
17/3/25, 10:04 pm - Singu mama: Highly preponderance.
What’s meaning of none else given clear words.
Ponderously I committed at my juncture that Sarsthy is the suitable person to take over Amma portion
significantly Aadhi said he wanted to be with his mother and against going abroad and sarathy is young and can maintain comfortably. As my situation is unlikely or contrary to. Oral is as well as written. My concurrence depicted a long back. All this if not given to Venkat.
17/3/25, 10:06 pm - Singu mama: If venkat comes again in this avenue decision to be decided by the both
17/3/25, 10:21 pm - Singu mama: Ponderous factor by me
impeccably not possible as my feelings will not withstand to hear bast…
or any more humiliation
as my self annihilation not to be occurred any more.
18/3/25, 9:39 am -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Please mama.. let's not boil over.
Thankfully, we are already in the same direction with respect to Patti portion.. So let us try not to get angry.
I wish all of us are happy and content.
I request that all of us use non personal but firm statements like yes I will or no I do not accept. This will help all of us.
Maybe I am out of place in noting the above. Kindly excuse.
Venkat.
18/3/25, 2:11 pm - Bhargav: I agree with venkat... I think it would be easier with a count of just - yes or no as response and then move towards preparation of documents without wasting any more time
18/3/25, 3:01 pm - sulo: Yes
18/3/25, 3:03 pm - sulo: I am ok with the decision taken. If it could be done before 25 of this month would be great.
If done after that I will have to arrange for a PoA.
Please advise.
18/3/25, 3:07 pm - Singu mama: Yes. How about you Barghava
18/3/25, 4:04 pm - baby: YES. I agree
18/3/25, 8:55 pm - Singu mama: Hopeful the meaning
of saying YES is to give consent for Venkat. Am I
correct
18/3/25, 9:32 pm - Singu mama: Ramayana around 14 yrs
Sun shine to Mahabarath after 18 days I hope. Prevailing
controversy still after 4 years after our Mother’s
demise. Hopeful aiming for an ultimatum.
When ever the step towards documentation
with regard to Amma portion , ending in chaos
resting towards perennial dialogues even after 4 years. Request to put and end,
by combined efforts.
As Dogli not shown keen interest in taking over,
Sarathy modified and did incur expenses to
look like mother living.
Now conclude either
to be not be or be all and end all. Sarathy is upset
because whenever he goes for documentation
some controversy erupts
Mother’s wish to be taken into consideration.
Because the portion was
Not cared by any one
Sarathy did all for renovation.
Let’s whole heartedly
agree to give to Venkat.
It’s his duty or responsibility to live the
Amma portion till his life time in his name. It should be an assurance or the will of our Mother
staying in 2nd floor is highly preposterous , while a tenancy is there with One bathroom and staircase. It’s his lookout
Let him sort out amicably with Sarathy
and put an end. Also
significantly convincing
his father and Barghav is
Venkat’s responsibility
to make them to sign in all documents. Hopeful
April end ends all.
If not , only way is to say
Sarathy .
It’s my honest opinion .
Hopeful all will end well
Let’s be united as GR family . Please ensure
The Light WILL always be there, where our mother lived her last 20 years.
Wishful wishes to all including me
18/3/25, 9:38 pm -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Dear Mama.. I was not a hundred percent sure everyone was on the same page regarding my getting paati portion.. especially when the last time there was some confusion from the side of my family. So I thought let us follow everyone's heart and let sarathy have it. Because if u give it to me.. I am single .. then who will take care after me. This question will arise.
But in case of sarathy he has a very good and able son who is also blood of govindarajan.. so lineage will continue.
Yes I want a shelter over my head incase I loose everything. But it's not like sarathy or Aditya will throw me out.
Please take a measured step.. this is my request to all of you.
18/3/25, 9:40 pm -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Please avoid mentioning personal attributes when posting.
Just post..
A. I think by going to sarathy the lineage will be cared for and nurtured.
B. It's OK for venkat to take it up..
Please keep simple words. It helps to avoid misrepresenting what you are really trying to say
18/3/25, 9:40 pm -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Just my thoughts
Venkat.
18/3/25, 10:02 pm - Sri Chakra: Venkat not to worry.
After rangan completed his house construction, he will leave 47 SRGM, and it will be vacant. I will keep a place for you.
18/3/25, 10:11 pm - baby: I agree with Venkat's points. Valid reasons. As he says who will take care after him.
*Its good decision that Amma's portion is given to SARATHY.*
Dogli, we all (everyone of no.3 STSQ) Are there for you.
Relax and stay strong.
18/3/25, 10:41 pm - Ranga Srgm: Venkat, with your
Magnanimous mind, have solved
this cranky long pending and evasive issue.
There is
prosperity and peace for you. We are all with you.
With Patty/Thaatha
blessings.
19/3/25, 5:48 am - baby: With Venkat's exact thinking and focusing on details, avoiding generalizations;
avoiding vagueness or ambiguity.
Ensuring that conclusions are based on solid facts and future thinking; ......
*We can come to the conclusion that SARATHY will get Amma's portion documents Written on his name* and
*Venkat and whoever visits 3 South Tank Square Street can stay and rest in the second floor temporarily.*
I request....All of you please convey that you agree for a finnal time here /now . *(Everyone specifically)* / Individually
Sarathy, please do the needful after consent from all, without wasting time as Sulo will be leaving for her place in a week's time and Babu will also be leaving for NZ soon.
Hope I'm not wrong.
Since athimber has left the group at the beginning itself, we hope that Dogli & Bhargav would be conveying the messages shared in this group.
As it is he has already told us in person that he doesn't have any objection in signing the agreement document, <This message was edited>
19/3/25, 6:28 am - Singu mama: Dear Dogli, sounds good
River water quality never
change, though it’s travel through different
soil. Just change color
as of circumstances, but
quality remains good.
Similarly your travel across in past was like.
Suggestion or advice are
repulsive in present day
living.
Still try to focus on creativity and to earn your livelihood. You are highly capable. Try to represent foreign firms
ideologically. Plan and do some constructively.
Hopeful, We are always there for you. I will support you morally.
Start a new leaf.
Hopeful to be with you and my blessings and wishes.
19/3/25, 6:37 am - sulo: I agree with what you have all said about Dogli, his thoughts, magnanimity, and his selflessness. I wish the best future for him.
19/3/25, 9:06 am -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Thank you to all.
Let us move forward.
I request you all to digest that I am able to think clearly because I have been on low meds for a year now.. so i humbly point out that it's not magnanimity but a very stable mind.
Just like you appreciate me. I request you to adjust to me when I am unstable. It really takes about 2 years after heavy medication and relapse for me to think like this. I am pretty sure u have all heard me kick and scream in the 2nd floor.
I don't know what my father did in his past life to have me scream at him incessantly even after he struggled through amma illness.
19/3/25, 9:06 am -
www.pvkrishnan.com: But let us hope for the best and a bright future.
19/3/25, 9:07 am -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Please go ahead and finish the document.
Let us hope we all are able to get together for thatha Patti thevasam every year wherever possible
Hope to see you all soon
19/3/25, 9:22 am - Ranga Srgm: Yes, we will.
19/3/25, 1:04 pm - Sarathy Mama: After all the above discussions in last 18 hours, I wish to state that with Venkat's appreciation and acceptance, AND with acceptance of all Siblings of KGR/GR Family, I shall speak to Mr. EVP for writing document of AMMAs portion in my name.
I wish everyone use the property when needed.
Since, we should not have any problem in transfer of property at a LATER date, I was trying, with consent of our Bro Rangan to start this process.
Though prolonged, I believe it has come to a smooth DECISION.
AND with my willful heart, I Wish I should give a compensation, probably not much to expectations. I can spend Rs one lakh each.
As I have to spend for further renovation and expenses towards the transfer of property, I wish my bros and sisters accept to my proposal.
While I meet EVP, I WILL BRING THIS IN DOCUMENT.
Hope there is no objection
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19/3/25, 1:06 pm - Sri Chakra: No objection. Please go ahead.
19/3/25, 1:07 pm - Sarathy Mama: I m sorry, I might have been harsh in my previous messages. Appologies
19/3/25, 1:14 pm - sulo: Please go ahead. No objection.
19/3/25, 1:18 pm - baby: No objection. Please go ahead
19/3/25, 1:21 pm - Sarathy Mama: Why said one lakh each, is because, as per TN registration site "tnreginet" the guideline value of property at our place is around Rs.4100/sqft. I have limited myself to Incude cost of registration also.
19/3/25, 1:22 pm - Sarathy Mama: I have not considered the market value, which is based on builders of properties. <This message was edited>
19/3/25, 1:26 pm -
www.pvkrishnan.com: Please do not think too deeply about the money aspect sarathy mama..
I do not believe any of your siblings are in a position to ask money but will be most happy to accept your generosity in any kind or manner.
I don't believe bhargav or appa also might need monetary compensation when speaking from a practical point of view considering their current fiscal state.
As for me.. I suspect I just need to be stable for 2 to 4 years and we will all see things differently.
Please do what your heart tells you.
As for the rest.. it is all happening per thiru vullam of our perumal.
Good luck.
Venkat.
19/3/25, 1:29 pm -
www.pvkrishnan.com: I will now excuse myself from this group.. this is just the same as removing myself from all groups.. it just frees up my mental space. I request you to kindly understand.
I wish you all the best with finishing the documentation as necessary
Thanks
Venkat.
