Japanese 'rent men' who are paid just to listen

[V.Balasubramani]

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The thread is fast becoming Hyde Park for disturbed persons.......

Member with disturbed conscience do come here to check up whether he can get some remedy/relief. lol

 

[krish44]

I can only pity those who try to play the caste card when they have no arguments to counteract logical reasoning given by a lady member.

One can learn to deal with another as a human being and not play cheap game bringing in caste.

Ranting it as the the end of brahmin culture and launching jihad shows a poor mindset.

One can play direct instead of playing caste politics to try to eliminate another member.

One is trying to be Paramasivan here and instead of being direct ..

 

[V.Balasubramani]

I can only sympathize this member who has nothing to defend.

Kathopanishad: says : Eko vashi sarva – bhootantaratma roopam roopam pratiroopa bahisch”

It is better to wither ‘Ahamkara’ or I-ness and try to be humble to all.

Just lamenting or grumbling without any substance is nothing but waste of time and energy to every member.

And now what is wrong in playing Caste Card…………..????

May Lord Parasurama bless you......

Source: Google images.

P.S: Parasurama lived during the last Treta and Dvapara Yugas and is one of the Chiranjivi (immortals) of Hinduism. Parashurama, a Brahmin, received his famous axe after undertaking terrible penance to please Shiva, who in turn taught him Kalaripayattu (the mother of all martial arts).

Parashurama is most known for ridding the world of kshatriyas twenty-one times over after the mighty king Kartavirya Arjuna killed his father. As per theMahabharata, Parashurama single-handedly successfully conquered the entire world and killed thousands of crores of kshatriyas. Parashurama conducted hundreds of Ashvamedhas and gave away the entire earth he conquered as alms to sage Kashyapa.[SUP][1][/SUP] He plays important roles in theMahabharata and Ramayana, serving as mentor to Bhishma, Drona and Karna.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parashurama

 

[renuka]

Dear Mr. Bala ( # 25,Ref of Dr Renuka/ # 33 of Bala
Let me, analyse, the views written by you & that of Dr. Renuka. It is a fact that Dr Renuka has taken the full liberty to offer her comments in every disputable Topics in this Tamil Brahmins Forum for many years.She confesses that she does not differentiate bet ween General discussions & chit-chat & write her comments, mostly ,contradicting the majority views . In the current Topic , she has taken a stand, intentionally not to appreciate the Indians way of life , esp. that of Tamil brahmins with the reality of older people in India, having deep rooted faith in spirituality , finding solace in the evening of their lives.


We Tamil brahmins ,always respect old , aged men who never have thoughts of present day entertainments ( they had already enjoyed in their life & now pay attention to shape the younger people in their family ) Whatever is advocated by Dr. Renuka is totally out of place & as I know her (having inter-acted in a few a few Topics , few years back ) her opinions are that of Malysia or other similar countries , including Japan, where Sr citizens having life different from that of Tamil Brahmins/ which has become the Topic now ? )
Though she has spiritual bent of mind , besides being a Practicing Dr. for many years & not having Full knowledge of Tamil Brahmins way of life , takes the liberty to , not only offer unpalatable Comments / which ,we are not able to digest ? Her habit is that she cannot resist her thoughts , whenever any Topic comes up in this Forum, & invariably start commenting , though she may not have intricate knowledge on the Topic. Being a Long time Veteran, Members give weight to her comments right or wrong ? the other Female , Veterans of this forum join her invariably & offer comments . positive or negative ?
Dear Mr Balu & other Members, who may not agree with Dr Renuka's negative opinions, i may say, not to complicate the topic by writing more & more . may stop writing comments, when it goes beyond usefulness.

( Rishikesan ) A. Srinivasan

Dear Rishi Ji,


Tune Jo Jo Kaha Maine Ditto Kiya (Whatever you say I agree...Ditto).


I have to salute you for writing an exhaustive Bhasyam on me.

It's almost perfect except for this one line that I have highlighted...you have given the wrong impression of me to Forum members.

I wonder how you came to the conclusion that I have a spiritual bent of mind?

Is it becos I know Sanskrit and belt out stanzas from religious text from time to time that you came to that conclusion?

Na Baba Na...I do NOT have a spiritual bent of mind...I have ASURIC bent of mind..that is why the Daivic forces are trying hard to oppose me.


I hope you can make the correction in your post.

I even clicked LIKE for your post.

I admire your truthfulness and ability to speak your mind, your inner true feelings and pent up emotions in black and white...I have to crown you an Alpha!

You actually do not even need to be in the shadow of VBala sir..and ask me "Renuka Sowkiyama"?

I find you a worthy opponent....you have proved your worth to me....its rare to come across someone as brave as you.

Salamat Raho Is Duniya Mein.

 

[renuka]

I would like to record my thanks to the Moderator who has rightly deleted those suggestions considering my representation.

I also thank Mr. Rishikesan Ji who spoke through his heart and supported my stand.

Morale: One cannot take advantage of the ammunition ‘Freedom of Expression’.

Let this be an ‘eye-opener’ for the Brigade.

Let them stop PREACHING and atleast start acting fairly.

Dear Bala sir,

I must thank you for boosting my popularity.

I am already famous here in Forum and now I am infamous..either way I am gaining popularity. Its an eye opener for me that I am so popular that so many posts in this thread are all about me! Wow am I lucky!

I too clicked LIKE for your post as a token of appreciation for making me the star attraction.

Actually sir....you are a one man army...you do not need the support of anyone to make your points heard...whether its Rishikeshan Ji or any other member.

You are SINGHAM.....

SINGHAM SINGLE AH THAAN VARUM..........

Keep it that way.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,
Rajini => Rambo => Rajini! ! :juggle:

We have drifted far away from the OP!!

 

[Raji Ram]

I was very curious to find out those snipped lines! :spy:

But there is no use in removing them because they are still there in quotes in the following post!

So, whoever presses the panic button, please take care NOT to quote that post!

 

[V.Balasubramani]

There is no need for any curiosity, bcos those objectionable suggestions were made in reply to my posting.

It was allowed to continue in the' quote' just for notice and attention of other members.

The purpose of pressing the panic button is to send a signal to the poster that he/she is governed by certain norms or regulations.

And I need no lessons on this.

I just wanted to close the issue.

But, now we have someone here to do 'Post Mortem' seriously. lol

 

[Raji Ram]

The curiosity to find out the removed lines showed that they are still THERE in this thread!! :lol:

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,
You are advocating some new ideas to tambrahm mAmAs but they follow Lord Rama. :hail:

Lord Rama is very famous for 'oru vil; oru sol; oru il' (one bow; one word; one spouse). :thumb:

BTW, one tambram mAmA divorced his wife when she was detected of brain tumor and

advertised in a matrimonial site, to get a new partner, at the age of 60+ ! Too bad, right?

But, he lives in the U S of A and NOT in India!

P.S: To connect with the OP: May be he wanted someone to 'listen' to what he says!!

 

[renuka]

Dear Renu,
You are advocating some new ideas to tambrahm mAmAs but they follow Lord Rama. :hail:

Lord Rama is very famous for 'oru vil; oru sol; oru il' (one bow; one word; one spouse). :thumb:

BTW, one tambram mAmA divorced his wife when she was detected of brain tumor and

advertised in a matrimonial site, to get a new partner, at the age of 60+ ! Too bad, right?

But, he lives in the U S of A and NOT in India!

P.S: To connect with the OP: May be he wanted someone to 'listen' to what he says!!

Dear RR ji,

Actually I was not recommending any major overhaul to any specific community...that was just a general statement for the elderly who might be without a spouse to think about a companion to share their heart and soul...but I do understand some got over emotional and thought I was attacking the values of the TB community.

Anyway that is stale news...In the case of the the man you know who divorced his wife who had a brain tumor and advertised for remarriage at the age of 60...I can only say he can't handle acute change in life pattern.

He must be having intense fear of being left alone...he could have been entirely over dependent on wife and her potential death would have destabilized him. So he wanted remarriage to mimic the situation of being dependent on wife to shield himself from major change in life.

Actually with some amount of psychotherapy he could have faced his fears..also if a wife truly loves her husband she wont really mind him remarrying after her death cos who is going to look after him when she is gone?


We all know that males actually handle death of spouse very badly and they seldom cope well..either they become depressed and withdraw into spirituality by masking their true feelings or start nagging everyone around them.

No amount of Bromance of a group effort of any spiritual activity can replace the need for a personal affection of a spouse even at a ripe old age.

I guess some can not detached personal affection from sex and they feel any male female relationship has to walk down the sexual lane...and hence felt offended with my post that it insulted the Urdhva Retas scenario.

BTW RR ji...I have violated some unwritten rule in this thread..that is I wrote some informative perspective about the case of the man who divorced his wife and wanted to remarry...you see..according to a member here I lack intricate knowledge so I have to put a disclaimer here.


Disclaimer:

Naan Oru Muttaalunga
Naan Oru Muttaalunga
Romba Nallaa Padichavanga, Naalu Peru Sonaanga
Naan Oru Muttaalunga

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,

I have also observed that those who lose the wife seldom adjust well with others, where as single women adjust very well.

But even then remarriage at an elderly age does not prevail in tambrahm community.

'Shakthi illaiyEl Shivam illai'; but male ego will NOT agree to this!

 

[Raji Ram]

I was thinking what will happen if men are paid by the elderly persons to listen to them, in India.

Many will be willing, with ear plugs ON! What an idea, Sir Ji!!

 

[renuka]

Dear Renu,

I have also observed that those who lose the wife seldom adjust well with others, where as single women adjust very well.

But even then remarriage at an elderly age does not prevail in tambrahm community.

'Shakthi illaiyEl Shivam illai'; but male ego will NOT agree to this!

True RR ji...see how nicely you replied me about the prevalent culture of non remarriage in the TB community.
Even in the thread about disposing flowers that have been used in prayer you explained to me that the way I use the flowers to make scented bath water might not be an accepted practice in the TB community.

This is all I expect from any member here..to share info regarding differences in culture practice...but sadly some choose to go Tu Tu Main Main and launch an attack of the suicide squad kind.

Then some repeatedly remind me that this is a TB forum..off course I know this..that much I can read!LOL

BTW there is a Subhashita in Sanskrit that goes that a King's words are only to be repeated once...if repeated more than once it means no one bothered for his words and it loses it effect and respect.

I guess that is why Rajini says :Naan oru thadava sonna, nooru thadava sonna maadiri.

Not everyone can be a Basha!LOL

But its also understandable that not everyone can get a grip over anger...its one of the most difficult expression to gain control.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Doctor Mam,


So, you mean to say that you don’t know the prevalent of non-remarriage in TB community ??

Now that you learnt this through other member posting and you want us all to believe this ??

Will you say this honestly??

And don’t compare Apples and oranges…

Vishwamitra is different, Vashista is different and Dhurvasa is different though all remain sages.

And most of us see Basha only as Raghavendra....................

Source; Google images

 

[renuka]

Doctor Mam,


So, you mean to say that you don’t know the prevalent of non-remarriage in TB community ??

Now that you learnt this through other member posting and you want us all to believe this ??

Will you say this honestly??

And don’t compare Apples and oranges…

Vishwamitra is different, Vashista is different and Dhurvasa is different though all remain sages.

And most of us see Basha only as Raghavendra....................

Source; Google images

Dear Sir,

In this same forum there are so much talk about divorce among TBs ,intercaste marriages and its problems and re-marriage too...we also find posts in this Forum under matrimonial for innocent divorcees looking for bride and groom etc.

Even when I travel to India I have read matrimonial advertisements for remarriage for TBs too.

Well not long ago a TB woman put an advert looking for a groom for her gay son...and they even found a match..that too a son of a priest.

So I naturally thought times have changed for every community cos we find the similar issues among other communities....divorce rates are soaring too..that would naturally lead to remarriage.


But RR ji...she explains to me nicely..so that I can get a clearer picture.

Seb Ya Naarangee...Yeh Compare Wompare Mujhe Nahi Pata.

I am being honest here Sir...Teri Kasam!

Aapka Dili Dost Rishikeshan Ji can vouch for that...he has said I lack intricate knowledge in almost everything related to TB culture and you thanked him for supporting your stand...that means you have indirectly agreed with him..therefore why are you so surprised now that I am ignorant about the fact of prevalence of non remarriage among TBs?

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Doctor Mam,

Now the thread going to take a twist and turn.....

With members coming here and narrating incidents taking place in their extended family (mostly fake IMHO))

About one Casino Mami going .............. with Johnny Walker Mama...

And you are on to your mission with a burning aim to inflict more damage...

Go ahead ... with your obedient Brigade following you with all sincerity.

It is a blessing to have such a Brigade which you have earned through your postings in this Forum.. Great...!!!

It may be a strategy ....

Keep it up.

 

[renuka]

Doctor Mam,

Now the thread going to take a twist and turn.....

With members coming here and narrating incidents taking place in their extended family (mostly fake IMHO))

About one Casino Mami going .............. with Johnny Walker Mama...

And you are on to your mission with a burning aim to inflict more damage...

Go ahead ... with your obedient Brigade following you with all sincerity.

It is a blessing to have such a Brigade which you have earned through your postings in this Forum.. Great...!!!

It may be a strategy ....

Keep it up.

Dear Bala sir,

You have to be fair to others too...if you have members supporting your stand...you say you are on a mission to Dharma Samsthapanartaya and its almost Parashuramic in slaying anyone who comes in your way.

But when others too launch replies you call them Bridage..Commander in Chief..Lieutenant etc writing fake stories etc.

I dont have any burning desire to inflict damage with fire...remember you said you are the expert in handling Homa fire...Toh Main Kaun Hoon?

I am just no one to be guilty of arson.

Blessings or not its all in Khuda's Hand...I am just a mere mortal.

Salam.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Salam.

Good day.

 

[GANESH65]

finally peace............. thanks every one. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[auh]

I feel moral policing is not required... it is another form of bullying when someone is losing out in a debate.

As if posts in this forum would indeed affect the tb community. But then, if it did, I would be happy.

Self interest & family interest supercedes all other interests... even that of the community. That is why many orthodox TB parents have somewhat reconciled with their offsprings even if they had married out of the TB fold. Love, in any manner, will definitely break free the chains that bind the mind.

TBs are changing. Remarriage in the TB community is very much there, and anybody denying this is in a fool's paradise.

Just like how "Rama" is an ideal and not real, the "brahmin" too is but a tag, underneath which there are only bundles of emotions...

 

[V.Balasubramani]

One cannot bury his head in sand and keep silent unminding as to what is happening around us.

It is a Tamil Brahmins Forum enjoying the privilege for TBs and if there are any post that affect TBs in this Forum, I will be second to none to object. In fact I would be more happy to do that.

I feel moral policing is very much necessary and hence there is a provision for a panic button?

It is because that if anyone pass any derogatory, disparaging , adverse or damaging remarks, without sitting in a fools paradise’s, one can exercise his right by protesting , agitating, objecting and is free to fight for the right.

Of course, no body can take the ammunition of 'Freedom of Expression' as every thing has limit and governed by regulations.

It is the Moderator, who has considered the representation, applied his mind and has rightly deleted the suggestions.

Those who are aggrieved by his act and not in agreement are free to go for an appeal.

Why this is not followed and what is the need for such a posting.....?

So, presumably, the thread has now taken a turn of Brahmin bashing... which is an entertaining subject for most and few loves sit too.

In fact it is the outpouring of emotion of one particular member that led to this long drawn out wrongle.

That way, everyone is a bundle of emotion, only thing is the place differs, some in Office with coleagues, some in family, some with friends and some in this Forum.

Lastly, I am anticipating a posting from the crusader and Torch bearer of 'Freeom of Expression'. Hope he won't disappoint me.

I am ready for my next round of .........

 

[auh]

One cannot bury his head in sand and keep silent unminding as to what is happening around us.

Well, like it or not... that is what you are doing in your life. Are you taking action on all the events happening (outside this forum) around you?

It is a Tamil Brahmins Forum enjoying the privilege for TBs and if there are any post that affect TBs in this Forum, I will be second to none to object. In fact I would be more happy to do that.

I feel moral policing is very much necessary and hence there is a provision for a panic button?

Of course, no body can take the ammunition of 'Freedom of Expression' as every thing has limit and governed by regulations.

It is the Moderator, who has considered the representation, applied his mind and has rightly deleted the suggestions.

Those who are aggrieved by his act and not in agreement are free to go for an appeal.

Being a TB forum does not give any special right for anybody to do moral policing. In fact, what "affects" "TBs in this Forum" itself is quite debatable. How many are TBs itself is debatable. All we have are "usernames". I do not mean to offend anybody but this is the nature of the beast.

Panic button <> moral policing.

I generally try to abstain from reporting anybody or anything while trying to maintain civility, but there are people who rile up agaist the poster (if I may say, you included) due to the nature of the post. Frequently you have talked about "groups" or "members" who derail threads but the irony would be that your mind veils you from the true nature of your postings, which are nothing but blatant charge on the member rather than against the post. In the end, only dust is unnecessarily whipped up.

It is because that if anyone pass any derogatory, disparaging , adverse or damaging remarks, without sitting in a fools paradise’s, one can exercise his right by protesting , agitating, objecting and is free to fight for the right.
Why this is not followed and what is the need for such a posting.....?

Please go outside the forum and fight for your right. Why dont you do that?

So, presumably, the thread has now taken a turn of Brahmin bashing... which is an entertaining subject for most and few loves sit too.

No, this thread has not, until now, taken a turn of bb... only you have mentioned it now.

In fact it is the outpouring of emotion of one particular member that led to this long drawn out wrongle.

So what? How many voices can you stifle? After all, it is only a discussion... and a matter of perspective !!!

Regards,

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Well, like it or not... that is what you are doing in your life. Are you taking action on all the events happening (outside this forum) around you?
,

The fact remains that if one fails to upkeep the dharma, morale, discipline, ethics, manners, decorum, etc in a small Forum like this, how is that one can able to do it outside world??

As such, first try to meet the challenges of 'storm in a tea cup'....

Being a TB forum does not give any special right for anybody to do moral policing. In fact, what "affects" "TBs in this Forum" itself is quite debatable. How many are TBs itself is debatable. All we have are "usernames". I do not mean to offend anybody but this is the nature of the beast.

I strongly believe that being in Tamil Brahmins Forum it does give special rights to TBs. And it is none of my concern to find out who are TBs.

I generally try to abstain from reporting anybody or anything while trying to maintain civility, but there are people who rile up agaist the poster (if I may say, you included) due to the nature of the post. Frequently you have talked about "groups" or "members" who derail threads but the irony would be that your mind veils you from the true nature of your postings, which are nothing but blatant charge on the member rather than against the post. In the end, only dust is unnecessarily whipped up.

Thanks. I think I need to change my style of resolving ethical issues.

Please go outside the forum and fight for your right. Why dont you do that?

Where is need ........ ? There is IPC and Cr PC and there is a well established law enforcing machinery functioning under the able leadership of our Hon'ble Chief Minister to deal and protect the rights of the citizen.

Anyway, you like it or not, you are one among the other members of this Forum and have no right or privilege to give me any instructions to go outside and fight. You should know your limits. And much you know me??

Last but not the least, there is a learned Moderator to protect the interest and principles practiced by TBs and to support us.

Thanks again.

 

[Raji Ram]

finally peace............. thanks every one. ...........

I don't think so!! :lol: