Happy Mothers day

[renuka]

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Greetings.

What about the mothers who favour one child over the other? Who favour boys over the girls? What about the mothers who hate her own son due to MIL vs DIL fights? What about the mothers who drive the DIL to even suicide by continous pesterings?

I have seen all these cases. Been there; experienced some of them too.

Mother's day is way commercialised and overrated in my opinion.

Cheers!

Dear Raghy ji,

I agree with what you wrote.Mother's love can be partial too many times.
Many mothers have a favorite child.
I have a friend whose mum was from India and her mother loved the son the most.Her mother was an educated person who worked as a health care support staff.

When her mother cooked she would keep food separate for her son.
Once I went to their home and I saw a special container with the sons name engraved on it.
I was told thats the sons food cos mother wants him to have all the best leg piece of the chicken she had cooked.
The daughters could only eat after the son and husband had eaten.

Her mother would openly tell that she loves her son the most.Even when it came for further studies the son was sent to study MBBS and the daughters were told to take whatever they get from the local university.

I really always wondered how a mother is able have favoritism among children.
Love is strange isnt it?

 

[Naina_Marbus]

The luckier guys also have the "Other Woman"!!LOL

patni may please her pati
and be the pride of her parents
but is a pain in the purse
and purgatory to the in-laws!

 

[Raji Ram]

Ref: Raghy Sir's post @ 25.

I have written about both :angel: and :evil: type mothers in two threads in the literature section.

Copy pasting them here.

First type:

என் அன்னை!

மங்கையாகப் பிறந்தது மாதவம் என எண்ணி,
மங்காப் புகழ் தரும் தாய்மைப் பேறும் பெற்று,

அன்புடன் அமுதமூட்டி, ஆவலுடன் தாலாட்டி,
பண்புடன் வழிகாட்டி, நேசமுடன் மருந்தூட்டி,

எப்போதும் மகிழ்வூட்டி, ஊர் மெச்சச் சீராட்டி,
தப்பாது பாசம் காட்டி, நான் உயரக் கரம் நீட்டி,

என் சிறப்பே உன் பரிசு என்பதும் நிலை நாட்டி,
என் உயர்வே உன் வாழ்வு என வாழ்ந்து காட்டி,

என்றும் கருணை மிக்க அன்னையே! உன்னை
இன்று மட்டுமா என் உள்ளத்தில் நினைப்பேன்?

அன்னையர் தினம் இன்றே எனினும், மறவாது
உன்னையே வாழ்த்துவேன், தினமும் தவறாது!

தாய்மை வாழ்க!


Second type:

பேறு பெற்றவர்கள்!

உலகில் பேறு பெற்றவர்கள் யார் தெரியுமா? தன்னலம் இல்லாத் தாய் உள்ளவர்கள்! தாய்மையின் சிறப்பை உணர்ந்து பலர்

அன்புப் பெட்டகங்களாகத் திகழ, சிலர் தன் வாழ்வே பெரிதென எண்ணும் பிறவிகளாக இருப்பார்கள்! விந்தையான இவர்கள்

சிலரை நான் பார்த்துள்ளேன்!


படிப்பு முடியும் முன்னே, தன் பிள்ளையை வேலைக்கு அனுப்பிப் பொருள் சேர்ப்பவர்; திருமண வயதை அடைந்த தன்

பெண்களுக்கும், அவர்கள் சம்பாதிக்கும் பணம் போய்விடுமே என்று, தக்க துணை தேடாது இருப்பவர்; தன் மகன், தான்

கிழித்த கோட்டைத் தாண்டாதிருக்க, அதிகாரம் செய்து ஆள்பவர்; தன் மகளின் திருமணம் முடிந்த பின், மருமகனின் தாய்

தந்தையரைப் பிரித்து வைத்து, அதில் மகிழ்பவர்; என்று பல விதப் பெண்கள் உலவுகின்றனர்!


ஐந்தறிவுப் பிராணிகள் தம் குட்டிகளைப் பாதுகாத்து வளர்ப்பதைப் பார்க்கிறோம். அவற்றிலும் மேன்மையாகக் கருதப்படும்,

ஆறறிவு கொண்ட மனித இனம், தாய்மையை மேன்மைப்படுத்தட்டும்!

 

[renuka]

patni may please her pati
and pride of her parents
but is a pain in the purse
and purgatory to the in-laws!

Not all Patnis pull at Pati's purse,
Some of us have our own purse,


BTW I was thinking that

OM – Purnamadah Purnamidam Purnat purnamudachyate.
Purnasya Purnamadaya Purnamevavashisyate.”​

"This is Full That is Full...Full arises from Full.
when Full is taken from Full what remains is still verily Full"

and if we actually think this holds good for our purse we are bloody fools!!!LOL

 

[Naina_Marbus]

Not all Patnis pull at Pati's purse,
Some of us have our own purse,


BTW I was thinking that



"This is Full That is Full...Full arises from Full.
when Full is taken from Full what remains is still verily Full"

and if we actually think this holds good for our purse we are bloody fools!!!LOL

I see a non sequitur!

 

[renuka]

I see a non sequitur!

The second half of the post was for guys who wish their purses were like an Akshaya Patra.

 

[C RAVI]

Dear Respected Members,

We all as grown up adults with some maturity have come across many odd stories and found the following -

Ruthless and biased mothers, making hell.

Ruthless, crude and cruel and biased fathers, creating havoc.

Ruthless, indiscipline, immoral, crude & cruel, selfish and even criminal children of "the most respected and honored parents"

Crude & cruel, crooked, nagging & torturing and even cheating wives

Crude & cruel, crooked, nagging & torturing and even cheating husbands

Mean minded, selfish, cheating and dodging friends.


There are many such revered human relationships, in which we have found Devils, making the relationship full of Evil.


This world of human survival is still existing and many are still enjoying the best of the relationships and continuing to hope the best for ever.

Mother's day is celebrated to acknowledge the honest blessings, true love, care and sacrifices of mother. To thank her for all her best possible contributions and her continued support. This sense of acknowledgement and thanks giving attitude, with love, respect and gratitude towards mother is attempted to be instilled in children who are least bothered about their mother and mother's hard sacrifices and contributions. Need less to say, for the good children who could sense the value and contribution of their mothers, would have the sense of acknowledgement and gratitude on all 365 days of a year. Even for these children, a special day to remain focused on expressing Love in return to their mother in any form, including spending good quality time with mother, doing all the household work for the day on behalf of mother etc..etc. can not be dismissed as ridiculous concept of celebrations.


So, respected members, let's consider in true spirit that, Mother's day is to celebrate considering the true meaning of mother-child relationship; to express gratitude to Mother's unconditional love and sacrifices; to give at least one full day of considerations towards her, out of 365 days of the year, in return to her love and contributions; to encourage all mothers and all children to realize the value, significance and the true meaning of mother-child relationship.

Let us celebrate considering the Good and not the Evil.

Let us not degrade the value of good and true relationships, considering unfortunate Evil senses of Some Humans.

Let us encourage our self and others towards establishing Good Senses and discard Evil senses in human relationships.



Long Live Motherhood AND Long Live true Mother-Child Relationships...

 

[renuka]

Dear Respected Members,

We all as grown up adults with some maturity have come across many odd stories and found the following -

Ruthless and biased mothers, making hell.

Ruthless, crude and cruel and biased fathers, creating havoc.

Ruthless, indiscipline, immoral, crude & cruel, selfish and even criminal children of "the most respected and honored parents"

Crude & cruel, crooked, nagging & torturing and even cheating wives

Crude & cruel, crooked, nagging & torturing and even cheating husbands

Mean minded, selfish, cheating and dodging friends.


There are many such revered human relationships, in which we have found Devils, making the relationship full of Evil.


This world of human survival is still existing and many are still enjoying the best of the relationships and continuing to hope the best for ever.

Mother's day is celebrated to acknowledge the honest blessings, true love, care and sacrifices of mother. To thank her for all her best possible contributions and her continued support. This sense of acknowledgement and thanks giving attitude, with love, respect and gratitude towards mother is attempted to be instilled in children who are least bothered about their mother and mother's hard sacrifices and contributions. Need less to say, for the good children who could sense the value and contribution of their mothers, would have the sense of acknowledgement and gratitude on all 365 days of a year. Even for these children, a special day to remain focused on expressing Love in return to their mother in any form, including spending good quality time with mother, doing all the household work for the day on behalf of mother etc..etc. can not be dismissed as ridiculous concept of celebrations.


So, respected members, let's consider in true spirit that, Mother's day is to celebrate considering the true meaning of mother-child relationship; to express gratitude to Mother's unconditional love and sacrifices; to give at least one full day of considerations towards her, out of 365 days of the year, in return to her love and contributions; to encourage all mothers and all children to realize the value, significance and the true meaning of mother-child relationship.

Let us celebrate considering the Good and not the Evil.

Let us not degrade the value of good and true relationships, considering unfortunate Evil senses of Some Humans.

Let us encourage our self and others towards establishing Good Senses and discard Evil senses in human relationships.



Long Live Motherhood AND Long Live true Mother-Child Relationships...

Dear Ravi,

I agree with every point you have raised but sometimes its nice to debate and have opposing views.Its adds spice to the forum too.
We need to have controversy too at times.

BTW I admire your true love for motherhood.Did you call your mum to wish her?

 

[renuka]

Hey Ravi,

Only now I realized after reading your post..your famous word is missing from your post!!
Where is the word FILTHY?

remember seeing that word used very often when you want to get a point across especially when you want to describe a Despicable situation.!!LOL

 

[C RAVI]

Dear Ravi,

I agree with every point you have raised but sometimes its nice to debate and have opposing views.Its adds spice to the forum too.

Dear Renuka,

I am not against controversial topics of discussions. We can find many many controversial topics to discuss and debate and I can actively participate in all of them.

This thread is - "Happy Mothers Day". If you wish to have controversy on Mother's Love and Mother-Child relationship, it would be better if you create a parallel thread on this matter and we all can have spicy discussions.

 

[Naina_Marbus]

Dear Ravi,

I agree with every point you have raised but sometimes its nice to debate and have opposing views.Its adds spice to the forum too.
We need to have controversy too at times.

BTW I admire your true love for motherhood.Did you call your mum to wish her?

With the kind of erudition, both secular and spiritual, that comes across from your postings, your adopting a stance of “sometimes its(sic) nice to debate and have opposing views”, reminds me of “Ann Coulter” , a US Lawyer, known for the controversial ways in which she presents and defends her opinions. Coulter also likes to "stir up the pot" and does not "pretend to be impartial or balanced”.

You think it adds spice to the forum, but it does not ‘taste’ spicy to everyone, nor is everyone fond of spice.

 

[renuka]

With the kind of erudition, both secular and spiritual, that comes across from your postings, your adopting a stance of “sometimes its(sic) nice to debate and have opposing views”, reminds me of “Ann Coulter” , a US Lawyer, known for the controversial ways in which she presents and defends her opinions. Coulter also likes to "stir up the pot" and does not "pretend to be impartial or balanced”.

You think it adds spic to the forum, but it does not ‘taste’ spicy to everyone, nor is everyone fond of spice.

My dear Naina,

I feel opposing views are fine cos its not that I deliberately oppose anyone or any subject.
I usually write post rather personalized with first hand true life experiences.
I sincerely and truly find Mother's day highly over rated and I have stated my reasons too for it.

Reality sometimes is a bitter pill to swallow.Even drug companies have sugar coating to make tablets more palatable.

I have come to realize that life has both bitter and sweet in varying proportions that have to be swallowed eventually.

You know there is a shloka in Sanskrit recited during taking of Neem(we all know how bitter neem is)

Shataayurvajradehaya Sarvasampatkaraaya Ca
Sarvaaristhavinashaaya Nimbakandulabakshnam.

The tender shoots of neem is eaten for a strong body with a hundred years of life, to obtain all kinds of wealth and to ward off all evil.

So life sometimes is a really bitter pill to swallow but the bitterness comes with benefits.

So at least spices make it more palatable.

Cheers.

 

[Raghy]

Greetings.

This thread is about 'mother's day'. Members are just expressing their opinions about mother's day. Some members even go one step further to explain the reasons for forming their opinions. Mother is a human being too. All the persons who had perfect mothers, good on them. But there are lesser mortals who did not have such pleasures from their childhood. In a previous situation when I said something in the similar lines, there were comments blaming the child for that! All of us were children at one time; most of the ladies who are active participants are mothers too. So, personally I don't see any reason why someone should be restricted from voicing their opinions, which are relevant to this thread.

Mother's day, father's day etc are just commercialised events. In reality, it is everyday. I and my wife don't have 'thina porutham'. I cooked a big meal prior to 'mothers day' and I helped the patients cook a yummy, huge feast on that day ( without even realising it was 'mother's day'). Two of those patients brought gifts for my wife for 'mother's day' in appreciation of my helping them cook that feast. There is a reason for mentioning this incident; with respect to my wife, those patients expressing their thanks ( although they haven't even seen her; they did that to make me happy... I won't accept any gifts), 'mother's day' turned out to be perfect. Secondly, in the western culture, mother's day is like a second nature ( these patients are mentally ill); my children bought handsome presents, they enjoyed the dinner I already prepared......

Lastly, even here, unless the mother deserves it, she may not even get a mere phone call. Nothing gets taken for granted. But in our culture we are not that critical towards our parents. Even if we have very bitter memories, still we extend our help at the time of need. In our culture mostly all the mothers get this honour even if they don't deserve it ..'தாயிற் சிறந்த கோயிலும் இல்லை' .. we always find some excuse to justify her actions.

Cheers!

 

[Raji Ram]

Father's Day is on Sunday, June 17, 2012. Hope someone will post some real good videos/messages for fathers on that day!

Sure Sir!!

 

[Raji Ram]

.......In our culture mostly all the mothers get this honour even if they don't deserve it ..'தாயிற் சிறந்த கோயிலும் இல்லை' .. we always find some excuse to justify her actions. Cheers!

Why does God 'create' a mother?

The answer is in this write-up - The translation of a recent e-mail

which is in circulation since last Sunday - Mothers day!

இறைவனிடம் ஓர் உரையாடல்!

நாளை உலகில் பிறப்போம் என அறிந்து, அந்
நாளை எண்ணிப் பயந்து போனது, குழந்தை!

இறைவனிடம் பேசினால்தான் தன்னுடைய
குறைகளைப் போக்கும் வழி கிடைக்கும் என,

தன் ஐயங்கள் ஒவ்வொன்றாக அவனிடமே
தான் கேட்க ஆரம்பித்தது! 'உலகில் பிறந்தால்

சின்னஞ் சிறு உருவில் இருப்பேனே! அப்போது
சின்னத் துயரும் வராது எவர் காப்பார்?' என்று

கேட்க, இறைவன் உரைத்தான், 'தேவைகளைக்
கேட்காமலே செய்ய ஒரு தேவதை இருப்பாள்!'.

இன்னும் சந்தேகங்கள் மனதில் அலை மோத,
இன்னும் தனது உரையாடலைத் தொடர்ந்தது!

'நடக்கவும் முடியாத நிலைமையே இருக்குமே?'
'நடக்கும் வரை, தேவதை அன்புடன் தூக்குவாள்!'

'மற்றவர் பேசும் மொழியே எனக்குப் புரியாதே!'
'கற்றுக் கொடுப்பாள், பல மொழிகளை உனக்கு!'

'உன்னுடன் பேச என்னால் முடியாதே, இறைவா!'
'என்னை அணுகும் வழிகளை அவள் கற்பிப்பாள்!

என்னைப் போற்றும் தோத்திரங்களைச் சொல்லி,
என்னை அடைய வழிகள் அறிந்திடச் செய்வாள்!'

'அப்படி ஒரு தேவதை இருந்தால் நலமே; ஆனால்,
எப்படி அவளை நானே அடையாளம் காண்பது?'

'கவலையை விடுவாய்! உனை ஈன்ற அன்னையே
கவலைகள் தீர்த்துக் காத்திடும் தேவதை ஆவாள்!'

:angel: . . . :hug:

 

[Raghy]

Sowbagyavathy Raji Ram, Greetings.

I refer to post #40. It is nice. Nice on paper. Nice to see someone glorifying motherhood. Good luck to all the persons who experienced childhood with an angle of a mother. But this is a strange world; there may be few lesser mortals who experienced otherwise too. I knew a mother who sold her daughter when she was a baby; trouble was, she claimed her back when that daughter grew up to a pretty girl of 17 years old.. she claimed her back so that her no account, job less alcoholic brother could marry her! Even I opposed that 'mother'. There are more experiences of ladies who were not exactly angels in their motherhood. Still those children are devoted to their mothers. That's why I said, in our culture, even sometimes if they don't deserve, we follow "தாயிற் சிறந்த கோயிலும் இல்லை!"

Cheers!

 

[C RAVI]

Why does God 'create' a mother?

The answer is in this write-up - The translation of a recent e-mail

which is in circulation since last Sunday - Mothers day!

இறைவனிடம் ஓர் உரையாடல்!

நாளை உலகில் பிறப்போம் என அறிந்து, அந்
நாளை எண்ணிப் பயந்து போனது, குழந்தை!

இறைவனிடம் பேசினால்தான் தன்னுடைய
குறைகளைப் போக்கும் வழி கிடைக்கும் என,

தன் ஐயங்கள் ஒவ்வொன்றாக அவனிடமே
தான் கேட்க ஆரம்பித்தது! 'உலகில் பிறந்தால்

சின்னஞ் சிறு உருவில் இருப்பேனே! அப்போது
சின்னத் துயரும் வராது எவர் காப்பார்?' என்று

கேட்க, இறைவன் உரைத்தான், 'தேவைகளைக்
கேட்காமலே செய்ய ஒரு தேவதை இருப்பாள்!'.

இன்னும் சந்தேகங்கள் மனதில் அலை மோத,
இன்னும் தனது உரையாடலைத் தொடர்ந்தது!

'நடக்கவும் முடியாத நிலைமையே இருக்குமே?'
'நடக்கும் வரை, தேவதை அன்புடன் தூக்குவாள்!'

'மற்றவர் பேசும் மொழியே எனக்குப் புரியாதே!'
'கற்றுக் கொடுப்பாள், பல மொழிகளை உனக்கு!'

'உன்னுடன் பேச என்னால் முடியாதே, இறைவா!'
'என்னை அணுகும் வழிகளை அவள் கற்பிப்பாள்!

என்னைப் போற்றும் தோத்திரங்களைச் சொல்லி,
என்னை அடைய வழிகள் அறிந்திடச் செய்வாள்!'

'அப்படி ஒரு தேவதை இருந்தால் நலமே; ஆனால்,
எப்படி அவளை நானே அடையாளம் காண்பது?'

'கவலையை விடுவாய்! உனை ஈன்ற அன்னையே
கவலைகள் தீர்த்துக் காத்திடும் தேவதை ஆவாள்!'

:angel: . . . :hug:

Shmt. Raji Ram,

A wonderful write-up, it is..

A mother is a mother who hold the baby in her womb and delivers the baby with lots of pain. She then nurtures the baby and brings the baby up with all her possible but true efforts and knowledge.

It is nice to read such write ups and it is also nice to come across many many mothers as angels.

We can only feel sorry and extend our sympathy to the children who had to suffer in the hands of their mothers. Let us not forget and avoid glorifying Mothers as angels who are epitome of Mother's love and sacrifices, just because some humans couldn't fulfill the purest basic instincts of humans.

Such write ups and sharing moral stories glorifying Motherhood would definitely help to guide the girls to be an Angel Mother with right mental make-up, attitude and true love & responsibilities, who all unfortunately had bitter experiences with their mother. Let them understand the significance of Mother-Child relationship and help them keeping their morality, emotions and intellect intact, for better.

Keep sharing with us such wonderful write-ups.

As you have promised, in one of your previous posts, I would for sure look forward your contribution on Father's day - 17/JUNE/2012

 

[Raji Ram]

Thank you Sri. Ravi for your encouragement!

 

[Raji Ram]

.......... I refer to post #40. It is nice. Nice on paper. Nice to see someone glorifying motherhood. Good luck to all the persons who experienced childhood with an angle of a mother. ..........

Dear Sir,

Please read my post again. Why does God 'create' mother? He wants them to be angels to their children.

But, unfortunately, a few mothers happen to be Lady Hitlers and Devils. We can only pity those who beget such mothers! :tsk:

Regards..........

 

[Raghy]

Dear Sir,

Please read my post again. Why does God 'create' mother? He wants them to be angels to their children.

But, unfortunately, a few mothers happen to be Lady Hitlers and Devils. We can only pity those who beget such mothers! :tsk:

Regards..........

Greetings.

Thanks for acknowledging there can be mothers who can be not exactly an angle. I almost thought about posting a vedio of such a lady... now thee is no need.

Cheers!

 

[Raji Ram]

......... Thanks for acknowledging there can be mothers who can be not exactly an angle. I almost thought about posting a vedio of such a lady... now thee is no need.

Thanks you Sir for NOT posting 'that' video!

BTW, did I ever say All mothers are angels?

I thought I was just writing about :angel: mothers!! :typing:

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Raghy Sir,
One doubt! Did you read the second part of my post #28 - 'பேறு பெற்றவர்கள்!' in this thread? :ranger:

 

[ozone]

Should it be rather named Angel Mother's day? Or would that be even more controversial?

 

[Raji Ram]

'':angel: Mothers Day" would be perfect! More attractive too!! :high5:

 

[renuka]

Actually when Mothers are extolled as angels etc its makes it more difficult for a woman to be a mother.
Mothers are just human and should be allowed to be themselves.
I still remember vividly someone from my husband's side commented that I lack maternal instincts becos when my son was born he developed jaundice after a few days of birth and I used to take his blood my ownself for testing.

That person was like "OMG how on earth she can inject her own newborn..she has no maternal feelings blah blah blah"
That individual even called my mother and said "your daughter lacks maternal instincts"
I was kind of pissed with that person and really thought of showing her the Madhyama Anguli!!(Sanskrit sounds more polite)

I know many of my female doctor friends can't really inject their own kids.They say they feel sad to do it.

Everyone sets some prescribed rules for mothers.That really sucks cos why have machine like mums who do not have individuality.

I still remember my mum sometimes tell me that "you play rough wrestling games with your son..mothers don't do that"

I have no idea if there is there is a Mathru Purana everyone else is following???