"right now, there are few witnesses to testify against the accused. i believe, chances are if mrs sr is given a few crorers, she might even claim that sr was not murdered at all, but an aseerari, came and plucked away her husband's life. money too has its powers, as we all know, to bend, stretch or turn upside down, what we know as truth."
Sorry to tell you this... unless you know for sure you need not bring Mrs. SR into this discussion.
She and her family are the grieving victims... I always cry for the innocent victims.
Probably, this is how Mr. Kala Bairavan is feeling. I see his point.
First of all the matter is sub judice.
Secondly, we can not stop rumours floating around for and against.
Thirdly, the fourth estate thrives on such hot news and gossips and take
shelter under freedom of the press.
Yes, the matter is sub judice. Yes, we have freedom of the press.
What I want to know is, whether there is forensic evidence to connect the Mutt to the Murder.
My wife says, "Yes, we have... it's the cellphone registered to the Seer was used multiple times to communicate between the Mutt and the dastardly killers before AND after the murder... what more evidence do you want, anyway?.. And large sums of money has been removed from Mutt's bank a/c just before the murder!"
What irks me most is truly religious people do not want to get to the REAL TRUTH of this diabolical heinous act... I believe their religiosity is taking a beating on this matter.
Nenjukku Neethi Yaengae, Sirs?
in real life, sr represented the most traditional wing of the orthodoxy, afaik, and his gripe against the seer, was the seer's penchance for opening up new institutions, dialogues with the muslims, and serving food for the dalits in the kanch peetam mess hall. all these opposed tooth and nail by the conservative wing of the mutt, who believed that the mutt head, remain in the mutt, and promote the brahministic orthodoxy, for which it is famous......so, in all probability, had sr lived, who knows where we would have stood re kanchi mutt affairs. or maybe not stood at all. the affairs of the reformer are being questioned by the orthodoxy, who now have a martyr. meanwhile, the public, gullible or otherwise, are left, with their hands wringing, at the smirch of what they consider a once impeccable reputation of the mutt........
right now, there are few witnesses to testify against the accused. i believe, chances are if mrs sr is given a few crorers, she might even claim that sr was not murdered at all, but an aseerari, came and plucked away her husband's life. money too has its powers, as we all know, to bend, stretch or turn upside down, what we know as truth............wait and watch for injustice to rule. i do not expect anything else to happen. the seer will be back in kanchi, entrenched, and probably turn rightwards in his views, to placate the 'tea party groups' of tambrams, of which, there are quite a few, equally as shrill and intolerant, as their american counterparts.
i happened to know a few, who were big peruchalis, a nice term thank you, in government and who did earn a lot of money by illegal means. who, on retirement, declared their intention to serve God, took commanding positions in the kanchi mutt, and were the typical 'poojaris' whose varam you had to get, to see the big guy. the old big guy, as these happened in the 1960s...............
not that it means much to me, but these guys, during their work heyday, consumed alcohol and ate meat without any inhibition. they turned 180 degrees on joining the mutt and i think, hypocracy is a mild word, for these type of guys.
Dear Mr. Kunjuppu,
I have been reading with interest all the posts made here.Your posts #11 and 14 are a class by themselves. You have said in #11:
If I want to charge/accuse some one of such hypocrisy I would say it on his face when I get an opportunity. I won't make such wishy-washy, tentative statements against people with a reputation (high-lighted for convenience here) that too without naming any one. This, in English is called 'slander'(I am sure you know that) and one who makes such slanderous statements is called -I am sorry to say this-a slanderer.
You might have known by now my views on Team Anna's ways of eradicating corruption. While I was watching the various channels to see how this stand-off is being covered by them, I came across the sun news bit about JSS. It struck me then that in a land where even a Swamiji can be probably slandered in this way, how are we going to "eradicate corruption" by creating yet another (possibly) mammoth administrative machinery, endless paper work and procedures and so on? That was what prompted me to report it.
As you know by now, I have no opinion on these swamijis, gurus, babas, godmen/godwomen, etc., (except shirdi sai baba whom I consider as a very sincere person who at least did not go in for the opulent life style which seems to be the objective of all the rest of them). But it is not my aim to put down any particular swami.
I am posting this link. Jayendra Saraswati caught in fresh controversy - Chennaionline News
I am not an expert in forensics and laws. A few questions that need to be asked by any questioning person
1. When we have such fantastic imitations of people like kamalahasan and others being done by our tv channels, how difficult is to imitate the kanchi acharya and record that as an audio tape, not even a video, and what is the means to establish that this is indeed his voice. I would require that the burden of proof is on the accuser in this case, considering that JSS does have many enemies.
2. To all keen observers of the case there is not much evidence against him directly or indirectly and the witnesses for the police have continued to back-off. In this scenario what would be the need to bribe the judge. Are there any evidences that we were never aware off?
3. This has a lot of repercussions. It is also question on the credibility of the judge. The sources who are passing of this tape are questioning the judiciary and must be forthright in disclosing their sources to all or directly approaching the police and registering a case by furnishing the details of the source of information. Without none of these things the media , even sun , are just playing to the gallery. The fact that some outsider alone has to file the case seems to indicat that this is yet another attempt by a sleazy media waiting for fun and TRP.
I heard the audiotape shown in SunTV news a few days ago..
1. Forensic Experts CAN tell whose voices are in the audiotape.. I believe the technology is very good.
2. I hope the High Court takes this complaint seriously and order a probe:
If it turns out to be a FALSE tape, then the Seer and the Judge must sue the culprits for defamation... on the other hand, if it is proved to be a Genuine tape, then Seer and the Judge must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Either way, this needs to be investigated to get to "the bottom of it", IMO.
Wait & watch.
We should all wait and see. I am sure like all other things this will go into dust and remain unprovable. My only concern is media if they publish news which can affect a case in process or a person part of our judicial system, then they must be forthcoming and volunteer to send these records officially to the police which can act upon it.I heard the news from the link given above by Shri tbs. To me there is no voice of JSS audible in it. But some female voice (so it appears) brings in a reference to "periyavaa". On the whole it looks like a stage-managed one.
If the seer is guilty the forensic tests will reveal the truth. But let us assume that he is innocent.I am sorry that this Acharya is in News for wrong reasons. I hope he will takeup the matter seriously and
clear his name from unwanted controversies by filing for damages against the TV channels, if the news
If the seer is guilty the forensic tests will reveal the truth. But let us assume that he is innocent.
An accused should not be at the receiving end and be made to come out in public to give statements in his defense when the person who accuses has not been forthcoming in proving his case.
This is a principle that must be followed for all. We cannot presuppose someone to be guilty unless the said person gives into the accusation.
Why I am so strong about this is because I have seen a relation falsely accused by someone , and using their influence brought to the station and beaten up black and blue, till he was finally released as innocent. This kind of game cannot continue.
In the case of Nithyananda , the Video tapes did make me feel confused. But I did not give much thought to it. What made me really suspect him was his evasiness, running away from police, saying things like he is not a man. This is outright dishonesty
Probably Nithya was only a shade worse, I dont know, but in this case, I feel we should not take this accusation seriously unless and until something is concretely established. There is no need for JSS to come out and give things in his defense. Nothing serious has been proven and the accused remains innocent until proven guilty, as long as he does not evade from the law.
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