The magic of spiritual energy
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The thinking and acting of saguna brahman is because maya is not one with it. Otherwise it would be nirguna brahman. Anything perceived outside of one makes it's reality dual and be subject to maya but it may not be in the negative sense but only that saguna brahman needs maya or wields it if you may call it so. It is not veiling but a harmonious relationship. Nirguna brahman has maya one with it whereas saguna brahman has maya external to it.
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Saguna brahman uses maya because he needs to understand and he does understand by becoming many and as played out in space and time. The illusory nature of space time expanse indicates that there really is no gap in the understanding by saguna brahman but only the mechanics of it are being played out in space time.
Maya poses problems that is creator of the problems. Understanding is Implied. Saguna brahman understands. Posing or problem creativity implied. Both are complete by themselves and are one in the ultimate reality.
If they are one why separation. The separation into saguna brahman and maya is only the mechanics aspect of it and not in import. But now one understands why there needs to be separate existence of maya and saguna brahman in adfition to the non dual timeless reality of nirguna brahman. It reconciles the timeless nature of ultimate nirguna brahman reality with our own space time reality which we perceive. It also offers a philosophical import for maya and saguna brahman.
Timeless reality avoids conceptual conundrums like what exists beyond space and does time have a beginning or end etc and is an essential part of any theory of reality. So any theory which cohesively explains reality has to incorporate timeless reality and resolve the apparent contradiction with space time reality which we perceive.
Advaita beautifully does that.
Maya poses problems that is creator of the problems. Understanding is Implied. Saguna brahman understands. Posing or problem creativity implied. Both are complete by themselves and are one in the ultimate reality.
If they are one why separation. The separation into saguna brahman and maya is only the mechanics aspect of it and not in import. But now one understands why there needs to be separate existence of maya and saguna brahman in adfition to the non dual timeless reality of nirguna brahman. It reconciles the timeless nature of ultimate nirguna brahman reality with our own space time reality which we perceive. It also offers a philosophical import for maya and saguna brahman.
Timeless reality avoids conceptual conundrums like what exists beyond space and does time have a beginning or end etc and is an essential part of any theory of reality. So any theory which cohesively explains reality has to incorporate timeless reality and resolve the apparent contradiction with space time reality which we perceive.
Advaita beautifully does that.
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Nirguna doesn't mean possessing nothing. But there is no stand out quality or qualities. It is a perfect balance of qualities. This includes at the highest level the balance of illusion and reality creating the one ultimate reality.
The illusion in the oneness causes the illusion of separation into things which are not ultimately real
The illusion in the oneness causes the illusion of separation into things which are not ultimately real
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For each person his mental and physical energies respond to and act on macrocosm the mind and body themselves being illusory with reality grounded in deepest self being the Atman. Any projection or illusion from a reality is finally assimilated into that underlying reality.
Why this play of projection and assimilation? Why not just the timeless reality?
Cooperation, growth, consummation , fulfilment for example are relative and cannot be in a reality which has nothing to compare to. These attributes must be important to reality and so reality is the way it is
Why this play of projection and assimilation? Why not just the timeless reality?
Cooperation, growth, consummation , fulfilment for example are relative and cannot be in a reality which has nothing to compare to. These attributes must be important to reality and so reality is the way it is
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I am beginning to get convinced that AI is a serious scam going on the name of Science and technology. Lots of big money are being made when actually something very hollow is offered.
This seems to be a much bigger scam than those of fake gurus. This is lot more undetectable as AI systems give an illusion of understanding and intelligence.
The serious thing is people have begun to trust them genuinely and make serious decisions out of it.
The scientists need to act a lot more responsibly and not churn out dubious solutions just because the problem is difficult.
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This seems to be a much bigger scam than those of fake gurus. This is lot more undetectable as AI systems give an illusion of understanding and intelligence.
The serious thing is people have begun to trust them genuinely and make serious decisions out of it.
The scientists need to act a lot more responsibly and not churn out dubious solutions just because the problem is difficult.
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It is imperative that the general public to understand the difference between illusion and reality. You can answer seemingly intelligently but beneath that there may be no real understanding. You are as good as your training only. You are trained on huge amount of data that makes you look intelligent.
It can be trained on any nonsense and it will parrot that nonsense. So you can imperceptibly introduce insidious reasoning and data amidst the logic and it will use that to give seemingly good and intelligent answers when actually it is trying to influence you. You may well be subtly influenced making you guilty of the same crime you attribute to fake spiritual gurus.
It is a great propaganda technology without making it seem like propaganda.
Folks take these things with a good pinch of salt. AI can't be really good and intelligent until scientists really understand what are intelligence and goodness. That's still decades away atleast assuming scientists evolve extremely fast.
It can be trained on any nonsense and it will parrot that nonsense. So you can imperceptibly introduce insidious reasoning and data amidst the logic and it will use that to give seemingly good and intelligent answers when actually it is trying to influence you. You may well be subtly influenced making you guilty of the same crime you attribute to fake spiritual gurus.
It is a great propaganda technology without making it seem like propaganda.
Folks take these things with a good pinch of salt. AI can't be really good and intelligent until scientists really understand what are intelligence and goodness. That's still decades away atleast assuming scientists evolve extremely fast.
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Science has been relegated to a secondary place. It is mostly technology without real science these days. There is no substance beneath the surface. People are being taken for a ride with half baked science passed off to them as something real and rigorous.
People need to wake up and responsible scientists and statesmen need to put a stop to this.
People need to wake up and responsible scientists and statesmen need to put a stop to this.
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True understanding is intuitive. By intuitive I mean the mind or the brain has access to spiritual truths which it grasps.
Science and technology are legitimate alternatives but you are reducing everything to data without any conceptual framework. Then you will reduce all humans to robots.
We are definitely going off course. Tough problems will take decades and even centuries to solve. We can't pass off simplistic and potentially fake and scope for malicious solutions as rigorous and authentic science.
Science and technology are legitimate alternatives but you are reducing everything to data without any conceptual framework. Then you will reduce all humans to robots.
We are definitely going off course. Tough problems will take decades and even centuries to solve. We can't pass off simplistic and potentially fake and scope for malicious solutions as rigorous and authentic science.
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The physical reality or energy is characterized by frequency and wavelength. The mental reality is continuous in space but characterized by frequency and wavelength in time. A spiritual reality is continuous in space and time.
