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Iyyarooraan

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One NGO is reported to have started a campaign asking all prescription writers (doctors) to write their prescriptions in separate capitals (please do not ape Sardarjis). America is reported to have about 7000 deaths due to wrong reading/writing of prescriptions. Another 1.5 mn. report adverse reactions. Naturally the figure could be high or enormously high here or nobody knows how many. India has an advantage in that some 10 to 20% people might be buying the prescription medicines but not necessarily consuming them. Whatever progress we may have made, contributing to actual statistics/censors must be lowest in our agenda. And who cares? Take for instance the "Adhar" scheme programmed by Nilekkeni. It has been discontinued as some political leaders have been averse to it. Now the new idea is going to come in a newer scheme named "National Information Survey". New Delhi should be aptly called Tuqlakabad.
 

vgane

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In India we make 1 good step forward & then we make 2 backward steps...The decision to stop the work of Nilekani is a retrogade step...Look at the benefits that it would accrue to the real needy...Somehow politicians do not want the good things to happen without their control.
 
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renuka

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Here we doctors have dispensing rights.We have our own pharmacy in our clinics so that patient does not need to go buy medication elsewhere.
So it my own writing I read in my prescriptions.
But here all of us write in Capital letters anyway or print it in our computers if at all we need to send patient to another pharmacy to get medication so there is no error.
Majority of us give printed prescriptions for purchasing elsewhere.

I have seen some prescriptions from India when my patients who are Indian citizens show me the medications they are taking.
Its really hard to make out the writing of some doctors.
Doctors from the south I have noted seem to have writing that resemble Jelebi.
Looks sweet and artistic but almost impossible to decipher.

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Anand Manohar

New member
Dear Renuka

I think you people are primitive there. This script is what I call "Medi Granthi Lipi" . Tomorrow's historians
will not have to break their heads trying to decipher this Lipi. Any pharmacist anywhere in India is supposed
to read and understand this script - written by any Doc anywhere in India.

See, this Lipi is well beyond cast / communal / linguistic / religious / regional barriers - one uniform system -
that's our level of achievement in " Unity in Diversity ".

Surely, you cant be "J" of that! Using capital letter / printers, Nah! That's killing an 'Art Form' !

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem
 

Visalakshi Ramani

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So the choice has narrowed down to :rolleyes:

Killing the "art form"!!! :decision: killing the patients!!!

With the earth's exploding population...:boom:

doctors may prefer the second option. :doh:

Dear Renuka

I think you people are primitive there. This script is what I call "Medi Granthi Lipi" . Tomorrow's historians
will not have to break their heads trying to decipher this Lipi. Any pharmacist anywhere in India is supposed
to read and understand this script - written by any Doc anywhere in India.

See, this Lipi is well beyond cast / communal / linguistic / religious / regional barriers - one uniform system -
that's our level of achievement in " Unity in Diversity ".

Surely, you cant be "J" of that! Using capital letter / printers, Nah! That's killing an 'Art Form' !

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem
 

Anand Manohar

New member
Dear Tmt VR

You :rolleyes: often - must be something to do with your name !

As a famous Soviet era leader said - killing one person is a murder or assassination, but
killing multitudes is only a statistic.:rolleyes:

Sadly, he didn't mention about killing an "Art Form" !:rolleyes:

Guruvethunai

Yay Yem:tape2:
 

renuka

Well-known member
Some doctors are real idiots!!
Even when they know the patient is going overseas they still write down all the names of the medications in the local trade names in the letter they give to the patients to take aboard.
So sometimes we have no idea what that medication is when we look at the letter brought by overseas patients.

Trade names differ from country to country.
So generic names should be used in a prescription or medical report for a patient who is travelling abroad.

I will give a simple example;

The medication Paracetamol can come with many trade names here:

For example in M'sia you have Parmol,Panadol,Pritamol all the trade names of Paracetamol.

In USA Paracetamol goes by the trade name Tylenol and in India(when I was there) it also goes by the name Metacin.

So doctors should always write the names of the medication for a overseas going patient in generic names so that we have an idea what medication it is.

Imagine if I write Pritamol..a doctor in India might wonder what is it?
If I write Paracetamol..everyone know which drug I am referring too.
 

kk4646

Well-known member
Some doctors are real idiots!!
Even when they know the patient is going overseas they still write down all the names of the medications in the local trade names in the letter they give to the patients to take aboard.
So sometimes we have no idea what that medication is when we look at the letter brought by overseas patients.

Trade names differ from country to country.
So generic names should be used in a prescription or medical report for a patient who is travelling abroad.

I will give a simple example;

The medication Paracetamol can come with many trade names here:

For example in M'sia you have Parmol,Panadol,Pritamol all the trade names of Paracetamol.

In USA Paracetamol goes by the trade name Tylenol and in India(when I was there) it also goes by the name Metacin.

So doctors should always write the names of the medication for a overseas going patient in generic names so that we have an idea what medication it is.

Imagine if I write Pritamol..a doctor in India might wonder what is it?
If I write Paracetamol..everyone know which drug I am referring too.


So.. all Doctors must take up a course and study the name of equal medicine available in other countries... !! ..

or a simple solution ..Avoid patients who under take foreign journey..!!

TVK
 

Visalakshi Ramani

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Doctors are SUPPOSED to know the chemical composition of the drugs they prescribe!

So.. all Doctors must take up a course and study the name of equal medicine available in other countries... !! ..

or a simple solution ..Avoid patients who under take foreign journey..!!

TVK
 

Visalakshi Ramani

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Not just the doctors...
even the chemists working in medical shops /pharmacies.
That is why they can always offer the same compound
in a different trade name made by a different company.
 

renuka

Well-known member
So.. all Doctors must take up a course and study the name of equal medicine available in other countries... !! ..

or a simple solution ..Avoid patients who under take foreign journey..!!

TVK

No No its not like that..

You see sir..if a patient is on Mefenamic Acid for pain..its called by many names here for example the Ponstan is the original proprietary drug name and various trade names for Mefenamic acid are Pontalon,Mefenix etc.

So when patients travel abroad doctors should just write Mefenamic Acid in the prescription and any doctor or pharmacists will know which medication is needed.
 

renuka

Well-known member
Parmol,Panadol,Pritamol all the trade names of Paracetamol.


MOL rhymes well with your favorite LOL! :)

Dear VR Ji,

Out here the name Panadol is often used for paracetamol.
So once when my son came to my clinic(aged 6 then) he asked me do you have Grannydol?
I asked him what is that?
He said Panadol for Grandmum.
 

Visalakshi Ramani

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Portmanteau word specialist???

Granny + Panadol => Grannydol!

Dear VR Ji,

Out here the name Panadol is often used for paracetamol.
So once when my son came to my clinic(aged 6 then) he asked me do you have Grannydol?
I asked him what is that?
He said Panadol for Grandmum.
 
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Iyyarooraan

Well-known member
Dear Renuka

I think you people are primitive there. This script is what I call "Medi Granthi Lipi" . Tomorrow's historians
will not have to break their heads trying to decipher this Lipi. Any pharmacist anywhere in India is supposed
to read and understand this script - written by any Doc anywhere in India.

See, this Lipi is well beyond cast / communal / linguistic / religious / regional barriers - one uniform system -
that's our level of achievement in " Unity in Diversity ".

Surely, you cant be "J" of that! Using capital letter / printers, Nah! That's killing an 'Art Form' !

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem
I agree that you rely on the philosophy that a life does not end a few seconds before or after, whatever the prescriptions or the consumed medicines may be.
 
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Iyyarooraan

Iyyarooraan

Well-known member
Yes..that's 100% right.We normally know both chemical composition and trade name.
But in Mumbai or beyond the South, there is a language (English) problem which might reflect in writing the prescription. The doctor is professionally eligible, but the language becomes a villain. Moreover, no chemist shop has a qualified pharmacist. And the chemist might push the medicine (with identical or slightly different composition) where he gets a better deal from the distributors.
 

Visalakshi Ramani

Well-known member
Wheels within wheels!
Deals within deals!!! Wow!

But in Mumbai or beyond the South, there is a language (English) problem which might reflect in writing the prescription. The doctor is professionally eligible, but the language becomes a villain. Moreover, no chemist shop has a qualified pharmacist. And the chemist might push the medicine (with identical or slightly different composition) where he gets a better deal from the distributors.
 

B V RAAGHAVAN

Active member
Namaskarams,

Dear Renukaji,

It is just for my knowledge-

If the medicine is of a single chemical composition, then we can call the medicine with the chemical name. Suppose, if it is a compound of two-three chemicals such as folic acid+some other main acids, then how it will be referred to.


anbudan
adiyen
 

renuka

Well-known member
Namaskarams,

Dear Renukaji,

It is just for my knowledge-

If the medicine is of a single chemical composition, then we can call the medicine with the chemical name. Suppose, if it is a compound of two-three chemicals such as folic acid+some other main acids, then how it will be referred to.


anbudan
adiyen

Ok I will tell you for example there is a medicine which is a combination of two chemicals.

There is medication known by the trade name Actifed.

Its made up of
Triprolidine Hydrochloride and Pseudoephedrine and everyone knows this by heart.

Some medications have more than 2 components and if we forget its simple just look up the leaflet of the medication.

But most doctors remember everything.
We just to need to write down each component in that combination.
 

Anand Manohar

New member
Dear Tmt VR

" Down Down Human life"
" Long live Art Form "

Art form or no art form, let's accept the fact that we lose more lives every year due road / rail / industrial accidents
than to medical goof-ups. We have become so brazen that one hardly takes notice of a few people dead here
or there. Deaths on our roads and railway lines is a daily occurring, so boringly regular that is only a "statistic'.

Add to these dowry deaths, farmer suicides, bride burning, hatred killings, honor killings, abortions,
exam-time suicides, deaths due to road-rage, deaths due to drunken driving and one has a situation when needs
to think whether human life has any value at all!

The death of a Central Minister [ Rajesh Pilot ] in a road accident did not bring-about any noticeable
reform in the way we drive or the way traffic is regulated. One need not go too far out of our country
to see how road rules are followed / enforced.

The deaths of Speaker of Parliament [ Bala Yogi ] and AP CM [YSR ] in helicopter crashes don't seem to have
improved 'air safety' - choppers keeping falling from the sky and aircraft keep popping tires while take-off
or landing, or overshoot the runway altogether i.e., if at all they land at the airstrip assigned !

These are basically because of our [collective] brazenness / callousness and not because of some botched-up
medication / therapy.

I am not sure whether there are any records maintained for deaths due to medical negligence, but
I sure know one thing - it's a long way off before we see a Dr Conrad Murray here.

Art Forms have to be preserved for posterity - this art form, affects our posterity in no way.

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem
 

Visalakshi Ramani

Well-known member
Man is destined to die some day...

How does it matter on which day and how!

But Arts are for posterity for sure!
:)

Dear Tmt VR

" Down Down Human life"
" Long live Art Form "

Art form or no art form, let's accept the fact that we lose more lives every year due road / rail / industrial accidents
than to medical goof-ups. We have become so brazen that one hardly takes notice of a few people dead here
or there. Deaths on our roads and railway lines is a daily occurring, so boringly regular that is only a "statistic'.

Add to these dowry deaths, farmer suicides, bride burning, hatred killings, honor killings, abortions,
exam-time suicides, deaths due to road-rage, deaths due to drunken driving and one has a situation when needs
to think whether human life has any value at all!

The death of a Central Minister [ Rajesh Pilot ] in a road accident did not bring-about any noticeable
reform in the way we drive or the way traffic is regulated. One need not go too far out of our country
to see how road rules are followed / enforced.

The deaths of Speaker of Parliament [ Bala Yogi ] and AP CM [YSR ] in helicopter crashes don't seem to have
improved 'air safety' - choppers keeping falling from the sky and aircraft keep popping tires while take-off
or landing, or overshoot the runway altogether i.e., if at all they land at the airstrip assigned !

These are basically because of our [collective] brazenness / callousness and not because of some botched-up
medication / therapy.

I am not sure whether there are any records maintained for deaths due to medical negligence, but
I sure know one thing - it's a long way off before we see a Dr Conrad Murray here.

Art Forms have to be preserved for posterity - this art form, affects our posterity in no way.

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem
 
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