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Kalki Bhagavan !

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DURGADASAN

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Yes I too agree with Pannvalan

I never believe in human samiars like this, except shirdi sai ram and Kanchi maha periyava. Though I dont know much about Mr. Kalki, I simply say my opinion that I wont accept any white-dhotied or yellow-dhotied persons and all as gods. Iam true you can see the god, if you really serve to people who are needy. I dont know about vaishnva sampradaya of swayam acharyan. But, in saiva (smartha) also it is like that, god himself is a guru (Dakshinamoorthy). You can sit in front of him and chant any manthra thrice and complete your diksha. If you certainly think him as guru, thats enough. Don't believe these damaging bodies as gods. There are so many siddha purushas even now in the world. Can anyone show any? Because, it is like. It is athmanubuthi. So, they never explain this to others.
Pranams
 

happyhindu

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Personally i too feel that a guru is equal to a god.

There is divinity in each individual. So, am not inclined to contest the divinity aspect of Shri Kalki (as he is known by his followers). Also, it is upto each individual what each wishes to call himself or what others call them as. Me is a nobody to contest that.

Though the concept of oneness is all very nice...its just that what is offered by a guru might be different from what some seekers are looking for.

So many claims are made by the disciples, how to verify if its true or not..

But i think its better to move on than to try to verify things..

I think Shri Ganesh ji might be hurt to read some of the comments here. Hope he takes it in the right spirit.
 

drsundaram

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Myself too had reposed faith for many years because of so many people pushing me up with this and that positive statements and hence kept my faith intact. In the process I had drained some very hard earned good money. Finally if our wishes/prayers do not fulfill they say recalling our karma which they ought to have mentioned [subject to .... etc etc] initially itself instead of assurances, promises. Any way now I realise that owing to karma only I had to spend. Otherwise why I was not cautious enough not to have spent my time and money intially itself.
And about paying money to have darshanof Lord is there at all popular temples [ otherwise on to has to wait long jostling in crowds for free darshan] Good example is at Tirumala. May be the temple authorities are exploiting..... In Kalki, of course, it was exorbitant.I don't know about now.
 
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pannvalan

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I was in Chittoor district, when this man was on his ascent in 1996 at Ramakuppam on the AP - Tamilnadu border. Later on, he shifted his base to Nemam near Thirumazhisai in late 1990s.

A few years ago, he started constructing his ambitious world institution (university) of peace at Varadaiahpalem, near Srikalahasthi.

There is no dearth of funds and they have been trickling and pouring in from all parts of the world for this Rs.250 cr. project.

So many hundreds of youths have been attracted to his cult and their personal lives and careers stand ruined.

I am glad that people have started realising the truth of late.

Both my sisters were drawn to his organisation/movement in the hope of finding solutions for their personal problems. I was too critical of them and one day, I had this revelation:

"Nirupikkappatta sakthi,
adhu nalladho, kettadho edhuvayinum,
valiyach chendru adhanodu modhuvadhu
vun velai andru".

You know, from then on, unless I was drawn into a discussion or debate about him
at the instance of others, after observing long patience, I did not interfere in this topic. I think,
after a long wait, it is the right moment for me to intervene in this thread and present my ideas
and thoughts to others of the forum.

The previous post of mine carries the actual happenings that took place in my sisters'
houses, one after another.

Rest I leave it to the wisdom and judgement of the members of this forum.
 
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happyhindu

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Thankyou for sharing the hyperlink Shri Venkataramani ji - what an eye opener.

Shri Pannvalan ji,

I think you have experienced and understood a lot more things surrounding this person than an average curious person.

Please do not wait to post or intervene in such matters. Thankyou for sharing the details. Hope what you have written will be an eye opener to everyone who reads it.

Regards.
 

KRS

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The only 'Bhagawan' of these times I know, lived in the basement of a temple and in caves, till he acqueised to His bhakthas requests to alight from the mountain and live in an ashram. He did not charge money for darshan. He participated in almost all the physical labour around the ashram. He discouraged even constructing any memorial buildings. His followers were not 'ruined' but are still being spiritually enriched without getting materially poor.

He is my one and only Bhagawan.

Regards,
KRS
 

RVR

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Pseudo Gurus, Baghavans and Preachers are doing more damage to our way of life than the rationalists.

I have listened to EVR's speeches in my younger days. I have read lot of books on rationalistic thinking by Dr.Abraham Kovoor's `Begone Godmen', `Gods, Demons and Spirits' etc. I earnestly feel that they are more honest than these type of pseudo spiritual people.

It is our duty to identify and isolate such people from the society.

All the best
 

ambes

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let us not wastae our time in discussing about kalki or any such fradulent samiyars who calls themself bagavan or incarnation of god and swindles money for their own welfare from innocent belivers. let these people go to well run orphanages or old age homes and spend time and money to these helpless human beings and see real GOD. Their good wishes and blessings will get rid of all obstacles
 

pannvalan

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I still revere and worship Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi. I relish his ever-green question 'Who am I?' and the contents of 'Ulladhu Narpadhu'.

When Paul Brunton visited Mahaperiyava and wanted to ask some questions to get his doubts (on Hinduism in general and spiritualism in particular) clarified, Mahaperiyava directed him to Thiruvannamalai, where Ramana Maharishi lived.

Paul Brunton very beautifully describes his meeting with Ramanar.

When Paul Brunton was sitting in front of Ramanar, Ramanar answered all his questions and queries through 'mounam'. It was a silent conversation, but full of great revelations that could be understood by only two persons - the Bhagwan and the foreign visitor. What a great event!
 

RVR

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let us not wastae our time in discussing about kalki or any such fradulent samiyars who calls themself bagavan or incarnation of god and swindles money for their own welfare from innocent belivers. let these people go to well run orphanages or old age homes and spend time and money to these helpless human beings and see real GOD. Their good wishes and blessings will get rid of all obstacles

I fully agree with you that we should spend time in well run orphanges/other charitable organisations and spend out money & time for more noble cause.

However, we are duty bound to expose the misdeeds of the fraudulent Godmen. It is also service to the society since innocent public are not cheated.


All the best
 
These guys (so-called Kalki) come from nowhere, exploit the gullible people's belief in the epics and legends, impersonate the epic characters, explolt the desperation of the desperate and make hay. Beware of wolves who come in sheep's skin and deceive many!!! On what grounds does this fellow claim to be God? He was born like any of us and one day he will die like any of us. Will he be able to resurrect from his own death? My question to his disciples "What will you all do after this fellow's death? Whom will you seek counsel and guidance after his death? Whom will you worship?".
 
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pannvalan

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Most of the followers of any cult for that matter firmly believe that their Guru, even if he/she dies like anyone of us, will revisit the Mother Earth, at an appropriate time.

Another explanation given is the life of the body he/she was residing has come to an end, but the Guru's soul is eternal and is still amidst us and will continue to grace us.

The second explanation is possible only in the cases of Mahaperiyava, Ramana Maharishi et al, who never made any lofty claims about their own personal self.

To put it in a different way, an Ethiopian Currency unit cannot fetch the same thing
what an Euro can.
 

RVR

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Exactly Pannvalanji,

நிறை குடம் தழும்பாது

Water which is full in a vessel will not attempt to come out.

Paramacharya and Ramana Maharishi are no comparison to the self proclaimed avathars of God

All the best
 
Regarding Amma Bhagwan

I have an alternate view to Amma&Bhagwan considering most of the views are either negative or nuetral and I thought it might be worthwhile posting my experience/thoughts possibly for everones benefit.

I have been skeptical as far as meeting gurus/swamis all my life. (Infact I have always wanted a guru but still dont have one because I dont trust/find it difficult to follow). I have been to quite a few darshan's of Bhagwan and my experience is has been positive and life-changing and I have gained a lot from it. I cant explain these gains, they are at a physical, psychological and spiritual level and are very subtle to explain. ( None of the thunder and lightning stuff).

There is definately some kind of shakti/grace transfer that Bhagwan does which is a good kind of shakti/grace.

When I first heard that there would be a charge for the darshan ( and its quite significant) I was wondering if Bhagwan is doing the right thing. But later my thought was quite simple which is that if I need to gain something I must be willing to part with something. A small sum is hardly an issue when Guru's can and do ask one to give up bigger things [ thats another reason why I dont have a guru because I am scared that he/she may ask me to give up things which I like -:) ]

So the summary in a nutshell, Bhagwan is capable of gifting you with shakti. My experience of this shakti/grace has been positive ( some other case I have heard are nightmares where things go haywire). He does charge money for darshan, and as with everything the Management has rules and the choice is yours.

My recommendation is try it, it can be worth it.

Btw, Bhagwan is not my guru ( as yet atleast) and I dont believe he has claimed to be the Kalki avatar and I dont believe he is since the scriptures say the timing is much later on.

( But again there is a lot of confusion on when the KaliYuga has started and I dont believe the Western timelines proposed for the timeperiod of MahaBharatha so hey, its possible that this is the end of the KaliYuga too, who know !)
 

kalki

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Message from kalki

I am the kalki bhagawan that you guys are discussing about..Whether you agree or not, I am the god..there is no doubt about it..

Let me put few simple question to you guys..

If I don't run my ashram,

1. How can my son run his 3000 crore real estate business in chennai?
2. How can I bribe the politicians to run my own business?? oopy sorry!!!! my ashram??
3. How can I maitain my divine image?
4. How can I sustain all of my side businesses peacefully?
5. How can I lure more people into trusting me so that I plunder them?


Do you guys catch my point?

Your beloved goddess, the great amma bhagawan uses atrociously offensive language when anybody reveals the original facts about kalki movement to the media. She is an original goddess. So, when she gets on high, she behaves
like a road side cheap illiterate. No wonder!! After all she is an incarnation of lakshmi.

The kalki that you guys had read about in our puranas would curb injustice and destroy all the demons that bring distress to the mankind. But, he isn't the real one. The real kalki (which is ME) was born
to enlighten people through drug addiction and hypnotism.

Finally I would like to make one strong point. I am all set to enlighten 64000 people by the year 2012. But, unfortunately, there is nobody to enlighten me!!!!! (Scroll down to find the reason)
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So, are you guys convinced finally? By the way, I will enlighten only 64000 people. Nothing more, nothing less!!!!


Sincerely,
Kalki Bhagawan
 

pannvalan

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I request you to read the contents of my Post #58 once again.

Now, I wish to go in a tangent.

A beggar who begs for alms aboard running trains, earns anything from Rs.1000/- from Rs.3000/- per day. Thus, his monthly earnings are Rs.50,000 per month, on an average. For a person who gives only Re.1 to such a person may not lose much, seen individually. But, when seen collectively, the society suffers a great loss, by encouraging such people. So, it's a Win-Lose situation, beware!

But, the same beggar, when he goes to a cinema theatre or modern restaurant, his appearance, attire etc. undergo drastic changes. He doesn't even hesitate to hire a taxi/an autorickshaw to go and come back. I have seen some of them even going to Guindy Race Course, with the hard-earned (!) money. They are the ones who buy lottery tickets more. They keep hefty bank balances too.

Why I am telling this is, a person who is really modest will not go after money, publicity, short-lived fame and an army of followers.

People who attain greatness shun all these temporal things. They do not overtly or covertly encourage others to shower them with these material things, that do not purify or enrich one's soul.

I only advise these things to my close friends.

1. Accept what come in your way.
2. Take responsibility for whatever you do.
3. Never run away from your responsibilities.
4. Don't lose hope until the last moment.
5. Leave the rest to the Almighty.
6. Last but the least, if you don't get apples, try to get oranges. (This is called
substitution of goal)

If one follows these, there is no need for any Godman or Godwoman or a false God.

Nadappadhu nandraagave nadakkum; nalamaagave yaavum mudiyum.

("Yaadhumagi nindrai, Kaali, engum nee niraindhaai;
Theedhu nanmai yellaam, Kaali Dheiva leelai andro?" - Subramania Bharathi)


All the best.
 
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nachi naga

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when someone acts,for some time they can fool people.

when someone fools,sometimes they act.

vesham pottu veshamama?

veshamamay veshama?
 

C RAVI

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when someone acts,for some time they can fool people.

when someone fools,sometimes they act.

vesham pottu veshamama?

veshamamay veshama?


Vesham pottu veshamam senjaal ennay? vesahamame veshamaa irunthaal ennay? Emaaligal irunthaal bemaaligalkku kondaatam thaane....
:grouphug::whip:
 
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