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Guru’s corner

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rgurus

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As one who had most of my schooling (and therefore) all of my college education in the period of DMK rule I share some of your apprehensions about the future of the community. Our family moved out of the Agraharam (from a village 500 km away) to the city during my grandfather's time and we (from the time of my father) have had a complete city upbringing and I therefore have no knowledge about the situation prevailing in villages which may be as bad as you describe.

What follows is mostly from information gathered from older relatives and from friends in my age group (within our community) who also got it from family small talk.

When missionaries opened their educational institutions to locals, many young Brahmins enrolled and used the western education to their advantage and hogged a high percentage of the jobs (in the British Raj) and some of them were even able to secure high level administrative posts. They gave up the traditional priest profession and moved out of their (squalid) Agraharams and moved up financially in life on par with the people at whose doors their forefathers had been begging for centuries. Traditionally, Brahmins subsisted on alms. For many people of other (other than Brahmin) castes especially those who were affluent, these upstart neo rich Brahmins became objects of instant hatred. You do not like your subordinates' children doing better than your own - till yesterday these Paappans had been beggars.

If we had continued in Agraharams maintaining our traditional practices including social distancing and claiming social superiority as our birthright but remained paupers, no EVR Naicker or AR Mudaliar or Karunakara Menon or TM Nair or Varadarajulu Naidu or Theagaraya Chettiar et al would have bothered about us. The mention of people of different castes is deliberate and none of these persons belonged to the socially oppressed Dalit communities. Many of the above mentioned persons carried titles like 'Rao Bahadur', 'Dewan Bahadur' and even 'Sir' (knighted) and they were founders/ active members of the Justice Party. Were they really fighting for social justice or were they in fact angry that Brahmins had usurped their place in society which they fiercely believed was (hereditarily) theirs and theirs alone? There is one thing I am convinced about - we are not being targeted for several centuries/ millennia of social distancing from other communities out of perceived feeling of superiority by birth. We are being targeted for reaping the benefits of modern western education in the last 200 years.


Many years back, there was a centre page article in a popular and reputed newspaper (based in a metro city in North India) that the Christian Missionaries generally encouraged pagan priests to enroll in their schools where they could impart (the superiority of) their religion even while imparting education. Once the pagan priests and aspiring pagan priests converted, the others would follow. This approach had worked for the missionaries in many other cultures. Not surprisingly, in India these missionary schools encouraged and even gave preference to Brahmin children and there was good response particularly from the Brahmins in Bengal and Tamilnadu (as per the article). This article was primarily about the role and methods of missionaries in India in spreading their religion and also mentioned the opening of good hospitals and orphanages. The point about bringing Brahmins into mainstream education was not the focus of the article. The common propaganda is that Brahmins rose to high positions because they reserved all education for themselves and kept others illiterate. It is true that Brahmins claimed sole rights to learn Sanskrit scriptures but the stone tablets/ inscriptions in temples and other sites are proof that artisans were not illiterate. The accountants (Kanakku Pillai) employed by business communities were generally family members. Probably this traditional system of maintaining accounts is much closer to anything that modern education has to offer than memorisation and recitation of Sanskrit Shlokas or consulting the almanac for auspicious days. The point is that our forefathers got here using the same education system that the Justice Party members had access to and not by learning the Sanskrit scriptures that they had selfishly guarded.

If the social environment in villages is hostile, Brahmins should try and move to larger cities where people are too busy to learn anything about their neighbours. And as for job aspirants there are MNCs. As for the even better option of leaving the state, DK/ DMK need not be the only reason to move out of Tamilnadu. Bangalore and Hyderabad are today comercially more important than Chennai and very soon Ahmedabad will push this city further down and possibly Pune will do the same in 10 years and all this due to the retrograde policies initiated by the DMK particularly in the area of education. Google, Oracle, Microsoft and many other international giants will open offices only in cities where skilled manpower is available on a large scale and these large offices will in turn spawn many more work centres locally - more job opportunities and revenue and greater widening of the gap between Tamilnadu and these progressive states. There was a program on smart cities on TV some months back. Students in middle school (classes 5 to 8) from Vishakapatnam speak far better English than college students in Chennai and the students (from Chennai) I refer to are not from socially deprived families. Point this out to the DK/ DMK and they will insist that Tamil is the greatest language in the world and Thirukkural holds all the wisdom the world needs. I do not know if you watched this on TV - some time after the first corona wave last year, M K Stalin while criticising the state and centre for their inability to tackle Corona, said that Thirukkural had already shown the way and he quoted the verse "Gunam Naadi Kutramum Naadi ..." as if this generic saying from the Kural was a silver bullet to deal with corona.

It is a fact that the low standard of education here should be a greater concern for Brahmins as their children are already facing an uncertain future in the state. If they wish to compete with aspirants from other states for opportunities elsewhere, then they need to think beyond the course content and university exams and put in a lot of extra effort to equip themselves. Quality books published by NCERT for the Delhi Higher Secondary schools are legally downloadable for free - they can get a good grounding even while in school. There is a wealth of free high quality learning material on the internet. Rather than worrying, parents can play a more active role in the development of their children and guide them. 'Sweet are the uses of adversity' is a well known and inspiring proverb.

To conclude, though we voice our feelings differently, we are certainly on the same side in the matter of concern for our community.

(Sorry, if my response is a bit too long!)
Thank you for giving a reply to my write up on the position of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu. We all know the route cause of Justice party. They felt that just 3% of the Brahmin population were occupying 90% of the govt jobs available then. That was true.
But the Britishers cleverly and cunningly destroyed all our local abilities and talents and made us subservient to and dependent on them for our day today activities and survival.. Many brahmins were the first target for the conversion by the missionaries. Some of them even imitated brahmins in every respect and converting them by offering them a living standard which they never experienced before. They made life difficult for brahmins to live their way who in turn were made their dependents. Having suffered at the hands of the moguls, they were ready to accept a life that was not meant for them. They could not continue to survive by daily poojas, prayers and bikshas alone. So for survival , they came forward to accept the only available alternative for them , namely an education that will make them get an employment . Ultimately they fell for it and gave up their daly riuals and prayers ordained for them.
Historical forces also drove them that way and when most brahmins succumbed to it, that resulted in the other castes, having lost their means of survival, because of the British policy, to look with envy at the brahmins. The britishers having failed to cause rift between muslims and Hindus as in the north used Caldwells bluff and blister of Aryan invasion theory to suit their needs and that gave birth to justice party, the root of DK and DMK.
But the schism between the brahmins and others got expanded further with the connivance of the British to such an extent that the nonbrahmins were made to feel that the brahmins who have been a part of the sanatana dharma, now called Hindu dharma were aliens who have immigrated from outside Into India ( வந்தேறி) And this false propoganda gained ground to such an extent that the real history Of our nation that is Bharat got distorted to suit the politicians iof today that they claim that Tamils are different, they are not Hindus and their brahmin baiting grew so much that they started finding fault with Brahmins for all that is found in todays society.
Even thogh the brahmin phobia in Tamil Nadu has not become that bitter as in J&K , here the genocide of Brahmins is silently going on nonviolently by indirecly forcing them to move out of TN aato seek greener pastures. By abusuing them daily using highly objectionable and profane words and making their life intolerable, there is a slow and steady migration from TNto outside places within the country and out.
If you inderstand what is happening in some of the villages in Delta districts, The brahmins are made to leave their native village by selling whatever little property they have at throw away prices to either muslims or to the Dravidian political land grabbers. Your contention is that if Brahmins can lead a real vedic life, they can live hapily and peacefully in Tamil Nadu. I do agree with that .But in the present circumstances when all the basic infrastrutures for a brahmin to lead a vedic life have been shattered , is it possible for him to lead the vedic ordained life? So when he has adjusted himself to the needs of time, is it not the duty of the government to make him lead a social life with self respect and dignity?. This fact should be assured to everyone in this land, irrespective of caste or creed. I have nothing against anybody .if you want to make this land a land of social justice, it should really be a land of Social justice for ALL.
 
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My pencil sketch of Maha periyavar
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Lotusinsanskrit

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there is a slow and steady migration from TNto outside places within the country and out.
I agree. But I feel those who stay here and observe whatever enjoyed from Brahmins god is there to look at it. One such thing I believe is during this pandemic time every doctor says they are exhausted and begging people to put vaccination and follow Corona procedures like wearing mask social distancing etc ,. People will say in this pandemic even common public too suffers but my point is having taken away all the seats, should excercise these too.
 
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If in the present election, ADMK+ wins, that will be the funeral of DMK as a party in Tamil Nadu. That may alter conditions in TN for better and still Brahmin baiting will continue by the residual members of the famished DMK,and DK and also by Kamal, Seeman and the like. Brahmins must be prepared for self employment/improvement without depending too much on the government support. I feel that most of the jobs In the coming years will be freed from The clutches Of the government, liberated , liberalised and privatised. When this happens , the situation may improve.
 
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தமிழன் என்று சொல்லிக்கொள்ளும் ஸ்டாலின் தமிழ் புத்தாண்டு வாழ்த்தை தெரிவிக்க வில்லை. யுகாதி, குடிபடுவா போன்ற மற்ற மொழியினர் புத்தாண்டு விழாக்களுக்கு வாழ்த்து சொல்ல வாய் இருந்த இந்த ரம்ஜான் மகனுக்கு தமிழ் புத்தாண்டு வாழ்த்து கூற வாயில்லை.

புரிந்து கொள்ளுங்கள் இவர்களின் இரட்டை வேஷத்தை.
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If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea…
does that mean that one enjoys it?
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பென் (pen) மொழிகள்
Children need not have to thank their parents,
Parents need not have to thank their children,
spouses need not have to thank each other,
So too the case with bosom friends,
Where there is true love and gratitude,
Thanks is just a word of platitude.
 

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Your contention is that if Brahmins can lead a real vedic life, they can live hapily and peacefully in Tamil Nadu.
What I meant was that if we had continued our traditional ways in the Agraharams and remained paupers the so called social reformers would not have targeted us or singled us out for the reason that they have. Still, I am personally happy that we have joined the mainstream way of life - for we live for our own sake and happiness, not to please the DK or DMK activists/ supporters.

With the rest of society adopting modern ways and us (hypothetically) continuing in our shell (agraharams), we would have possibly become objects of amusement and ridicule rather than jealousy and hatred. We may have had (just a possibility) a peaceful existence, I doubt it would have been a happy life.

BTW, your pencil sketches are really great. Especially, the one of Cho as Tughlaq is as faithful a reproduction as any photo. My sincerest compliments!

(I visit this site only in the weekends and on holidays using my personal laptop. On other days I use the office laptop - I work full time from home as a regular employee in a private company though I am a senior citizen and have to often share my system with co-workers and I do not want colleagues to know about my personal views in sensitive matters like these. Bottom line - I may not be able to respond posts/ replies immediately)
 
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மாணவன் பரிட்சை எழுதும் போது பேப்பர் மேல *திமுக துணை* னு எழுதினான்,

இதை பாத்த வாத்தியார் கட்சி பேரெல்லாம் எழுத கூடாதுனு சத்தம் போட்டார்,

அதுக்கு அந்த மாணவன் அது கட்சி பேரு இல்ல சார் சாமி பேர் (திருச்செந்தூர் முருக கடவுள் துணை)அத தான் சார் சுருக்கி எழுதுனேன்னு சொன்னான்,,,

அடுத்த நாள் பரிட்சை எழுதும் போது இந்த தடவை *அதிமுக துணை* னு எழுதினான்,

அதை பாத்த வாத்தியார் பையனை திரும்பவும் திட்டுனார்,

அதுக்கு அந்த பையன் சார் கோபப்படாதீங்க நேத்து எழுதும் போது அருள்மிகுவை விட்டுட்டேன் (அருள்மிகு திருச்செந்தூர் முருக கடவுள் துணை) அதை சுருக்கித்தான் சார் அதிமுக துணைனு எழுதுனேன்னு சொன்னான்....
 
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ராப்பிச்சை
அந்தக் காலத்துலே ராப்பிச்சைன்னு ராத்திரி நேரத்துலே பிச்சைக்காரர்கள் வீட்டுக்கு வீடு வாசல்லே நின்னுகிட்டு பிச்சை கேட்டு வரதுண்டு. ( இப்ப டவுன்லேயோ அல்லது சிடியிலேயோ, அடுக்குமாடி குடியிருப்புகளிலேயோ இருக்கறவங்களுக்கு இந்த இனத்தைப் பத்தி எதுவும் தெரியாது) இப்ப அந்த இனமே அழிஞ்சி போச்சுன்னு நினைக்கிறீங்களா?
கவலைப்படாதீங்க. இப்ப நாமதான் அவங்களுக்குப் போட்டியா வந்துட்டோமே.

என்ன சொல்றீங்க?

முந்தி வீட்டிலே தினசரி சமையல் நடக்கும். ராத்திரி மிஞ்சிப் போனதை வெச்சி மறுநாள் சாப்பிடற பழக்கம் கிடையாது. அதை ராப்பிச்சைக்காரனுக்குப் போட்டுடுவாங்க.

ஆனால் இன்னிக்கு என்ன நடக்குது?

மிஞ்சிப் போன சமையலை பத்திரமா ஃப்ரிட்ஜ்லே எடுத்து வச்சி, அன்னிக்கு அந்த ராப்பிச்சைக்காரன் சாப்பிட்டதைத்தானே மறுநாள் சாப்பிடறோம். ஒரே ஒரு வித்தியாசம். அந்தப் பழைய பதார்த்தங்களை சூடு பண்ணி சாப்பிடறோம்.

ராப்பிச்சைக்காரன்கூட, முதல்நாள் மிச்சத்தைத்தான் மறுநாள் சாப்பிடுவான்.
ஆனா இன்றைய மாடர்ன் ராப்பிச்சைகள், மூணு நாள், நாலு நாள் வெச்சிருந்து, மறுபடியும், மறுபடியும் அதையே சூடுபண்ணி சாப்பிடறாங்களே. இவங்களை என்னன்னு சொல்றது?. ராராரா…. பிச்சைன்னு சொல்லாமா?

எனவே அந்த இனம் அழிஞ்சி போயிட்டுதுன்னு கவலைப்படாதீங்க. அவங்கெல்லாம் இப்ப . ஃப்ரிட்ஜ், மைக்ரோவேவ் பிச்சைகளாக ஆகி ரொம்பவே பெருத்துப்போயிட்டாங்க. இப்ப நாம எல்லாமே அந்த ராப்பிச்சைகளா ஆயிட்டோம். என்ன சரிதானே?
 
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FLAT LIVING
You purchase a one or two bedroom flat
For which you pay an amount that is hefty and fat
Your floor is someone's ceiling though
Your ceiling is someone's floor, you know
None of the walls is your own
Within the four walls, lies your zone
Every flat is made as far as possible air tight
And people live with AC day and night
With all the doors all the time shut
Sunlight direct or diffused is effectively cut
Your own neighbour is your stranger
Whom you meet only at times of danger.
Understanding with residents is unknown
Out of proportion, small misunderstandings are blown
 
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நீங்க ரெண்டு கட்சிக்கிட்டே இருந்தும் கட்டு கட்டா நோட்டு ( பணம்) வாங்கினீங்களே! கடைசியிலே, யாருக்கு ஓட்டுப் போட்டீங்க?

நோட்டாவுக்குத்தான்.
 
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ராப்பிச்சை
அந்தக் காலத்துலே ராப்பிச்சைன்னு ராத்திரி நேரத்துலே பிச்சைக்காரர்கள் வீட்டுக்கு வீடு வாசல்லே நின்னுகிட்டு பிச்சை கேட்டு வரதுண்டு. ( இப்ப டவுன்லேயோ அல்லது சிடியிலேயோ, அடுக்குமாடி குடியிருப்புகளிலேயோ இருக்கறவங்களுக்கு இந்த இனத்தைப் பத்தி எதுவும் தெரியாது) இப்ப அந்த இனமே அழிஞ்சி போச்சுன்னு நினைக்கிறீங்களா?
கவலைப்படாதீங்க. இப்ப நாமதான் அவங்களுக்குப் போட்டியா வந்துட்டோமே.

என்ன சொல்றீங்க?

முந்தி வீட்டிலே தினசரி சமையல் நடக்கும். ராத்திரி மிஞ்சிப் போனதை வெச்சி மறுநாள் சாப்பிடற பழக்கம் கிடையாது. அதை ராப்பிச்சைக்காரனுக்குப் போட்டுடுவாங்க.

ஆனால் இன்னிக்கு என்ன நடக்குது?

மிஞ்சிப் போன சமையலை பத்திரமா ஃப்ரிட்ஜ்லே எடுத்து வச்சி, அன்னிக்கு அந்த ராப்பிச்சைக்காரன் சாப்பிட்டதைத்தானே மறுநாள் சாப்பிடறோம். ஒரே ஒரு வித்தியாசம். அந்தப் பழைய பதார்த்தங்களை சூடு பண்ணி சாப்பிடறோம்.

ராப்பிச்சைக்காரன்கூட, முதல்நாள் மிச்சத்தைத்தான் மறுநாள் சாப்பிடுவான்.
ஆனா இன்றைய மாடர்ன் ராப்பிச்சைகள், மூணு நாள், நாலு நாள் வெச்சிருந்து, மறுபடியும், மறுபடியும் அதையே சூடுபண்ணி சாப்பிடறாங்களே. இவங்களை என்னன்னு சொல்றது?. ராராரா…. பிச்சைன்னு சொல்லாமா?

எனவே அந்த இனம் அழிஞ்சி போயிட்டுதுன்னு கவலைப்படாதீங்க. அவங்கெல்லாம் இப்ப . ஃப்ரிட்ஜ், மைக்ரோவேவ் பிச்சைகளாக ஆகி ரொம்பவே பெருத்துப்போயிட்டாங்க. இப்ப நாம எல்லாமே அந்த ராப்பிச்சைகளா ஆயிட்டோம். என்ன சரிதானே?
 
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rgurus

rgurus

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மானேஜர்: உங்களை டிரைவரா செலக்ட் பண்ணி இருக்கேன். உங்க ஸ்டார்டிங் சாலரி ₹10,000/-
டிரைவர்: நன்றி சார். ஸ்டார்டிங் சாலரி ₹10,000/- ம்னா, டிரைவிங் சாலரி எவ்வளவு சார்?
 
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