Dress code will be implemented in the Hindu temples of Tamilnadu from Jan 2016

[Raji Ram]

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This is becoming a ADHIKHA PRASANGI thread lol

One can't be an :angel: all the time, Narayan Sir!

It might be boring! :bored:

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

One can be an Hell's :angel: sometime time, !

It might be interesting! :bored:

 

[GNANA SUNYAM]

when people of other religions dress modestly, follow ethics, are disciplined when coming to dress, while inside their respective places of worship, regardless of how they dress outside and with no dress codes imposed on them either in their scriptures or in their institutions, may I know why is it imperative to impose dress codes in hindu temples!

Also unable to understand why government interferes unwarranted in matters of religious institutions.

 

[auh]

Just had a friend over at home yesterday who discussed this "dress code" and he thinks that sari is more revealing than a t-shirt and tights for ladies. All these decrees arise only from a parochial mindset.

 

[V.Balasubramani]

TN to appeal against single judge's order on temple dress code

TheTamil Nadu government has decided to appeal against the Madras High Court ordersetting a dress code for devotees visiting temples in the state, which cameinto force from January 1.

The Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments(HR and CE) department, which administers a large number of temples in TamilNadu, is of the view that the order by a single judge of the Madurai Bench ofthe high court is not in consonance with the Tamil Nadu Temple Entry AuthorisationAct, 1947, which permits individual temples to frame rules relating to attireas per their customs and traditions, said Government Pleader PR Shanmuganathan.

There are temples in the state that men are notsupposed to enter with a shirt or towel covering their upper body. The highcourt direction would harm the practice followed at such temples, thedepartment felt.


Read more at: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/520986/tn-appeal-against-single-judges.html



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கோயில்களில் ஆடை கட்டுப்பாட்டுக்கு எதிராக அரசு மேல்முறையீடு

மதுரை: 'அனைத்து கோயில்களிலும் பக்தர்கள் பாரம்பரிய ஆடைகள் அணிந்து வர வேண்டும்,' என்ற தனி நீதிபதியின் உத்தரவை எதிர்த்து, அறநிலையத்துறை சார்பில், உயர்நீதிமன்ற மதுரைக் கிளையில் மேல்முறையீடு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது.

திருச்சி துவரங்குறிச்சி அருகே அக்கியம்பட்டி ராஜூ,' போலீஸ் பாதுகாப்புடன் கோயில் திருவிழா, கிராமிய ஆடல், பாடல் நடத்த அனுமதிக்க வேண்டும்,' என உயர்நீதிமன்றக் கிளையில் மனு செய்தார்.தனி நீதிபதி,'எந்த ஒரு சமூகம், தலைவர்களை வாழ்த்தி பாடக்கூடாது. பக்தர்கள் அரைக்கால் டிரவுசர், மினி ஸ்கர்ட்ஸ், மிடி, ஸ்லீவ்லெஸ் டாப்ஸ், குட்டையான ஜீன்ஸ் அணிந்திருந்தால் அனுமதிக்கக்கூடாது என்ற நிபந்தனைகளுடன் நிகழ்ச்சி நடத்த அனுமதிக்கப்படுகிறது,' என இடைக்கால உத்தரவிட்டார்.

Read more at: http://www.dinamalar.com/news_detail.asp?id=1424624

 

[prasad1]

Just had a friend over at home yesterday who discussed this "dress code" and he thinks that sari is more revealing than a t-shirt and tights for ladies. All these decrees arise only from a parochial mindset.

 

[Vaagmi]

Except purdah every other dress is suggestive. Dresses cover something and so are not "revealing any thing" What is left out uncovered by a dress can be called revealed assets. And here comes the individual beholders mind. What suggestions goes and registers in his mind will depend on the conditioning of the mind.

In the above photo also the question still reverberates to the tune " ...........ke peeche kya hai" though the answer is known. LOL.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Dress code is no issue here in Pondychery

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...iDj-qurmlPUYrT7Yw&sig2=6RYd8ZSZ9oqDqXyKX-U11A

 

[sravna]

Except purdah every other dress is suggestive. Dresses cover something and so are not "revealing any thing" What is left out uncovered by a dress can be called revealed assets. And here comes the individual beholders mind. What suggestions goes and registers in his mind will depend on the conditioning of the mind.

In the above photo also the question still reverberates to the tune " ...........ke peeche kya hai" though the answer is known. LOL.

Well said Shri.Vaagmi. Everything is in the beholders mind. How one sees something reveals only the mind of the person.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Except purdah every other dress is suggestive..

the question still reverberates to the tune " ...........ke peeche kya hai" though the answer is known. LOL.

The question can still reverbarates to he tune " Purdha ke peeche kya hai though the answer is known! LOL

 

[renuka]

Except purdah every other dress is suggestive.

Every dress is suggestive...including a Purdah cos one starts to fantasize when the visual apparatus fails to "see" any silhouette.

Frankly speaking even a Kafan(Shroud) is suggestive...its figure hugging!

Come to think of it..all the Hoo Haah made about females should not expose their silhouette but upon death the Kafan is a tight figure hugging attire!

 

[CHANDRU1849]

This morning when I came out of Kapaleeswarar Temple, I noticed NDTV is interviewing a girl, probably on new dress code.

 

[Vaagmi]

Every dress is suggestive...including a Purdah cos one starts to fantasize when the visual apparatus fails to "see" any silhouette.

Frankly speaking even a Kafan(Shroud) is suggestive...its figure hugging!

Come to think of it..all the Hoo Haah made about females should not expose their silhouette but upon death the Kafan is a tight figure hugging attire!

OMG!! A suggestive Kafan? What the world has come to?? It requires a special mindset to see suggestions in a Kafan. LOL.

 

[Raji Ram]

The debates on dress code shows 'நல்லதுக்குக் காலமில்லை'! (nalladhukkuk kAlamillai!)

 

[auh]

The debates on dress code shows 'நல்லதுக்குக் காலமில்லை'! (nalladhukkuk kAlamillai!)

"nalladhu" itself undergoes changes with the flow of "kaalam". nalladhu at one point of time in kaalam may not be nalladhu in another point of time in kaalam...

 

[Raji Ram]

"nalladhu" itself undergoes changes with the flow of "kaalam". nalladhu at one point of time in kaalam may not be nalladhu in another point of time in kaalam...

Very true!

Women's lib says that even if a female walks in public without any dress on her, people should :tape: and stay .
idhu kAlaththin kOlam! :clock:

 

[prasad1]

Seeking to preserve the ‘spiritual ambience’ in temples by prescribing a dress code for worshippers may appear to be a laudable objective. However, courts of law should be cautious about framing their own rules in the guise of passing judicial orders. A fiat from the Madurai Bench of the Madras High Court prescribing the sort of clothing that devotees should wear while visiting temples has come into effect in Tamil Nadu from January 1. A single judge decided on November 26, 2015 that to curb the wearing of “improper clothing” by temple-goers, a dress code was “inevitable”. Even though what was before him was only a petition for permitting a folk cultural performance on the premises of a village temple, he impleaded the State Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Department as a respondent and proceeded to prescribe an interim dress code straightaway. The code, that sets down dhotis or pyjamas with upper cloth, or formal trousers and shirts, for men, and saree or half-saree with blouse, or churidars with upper cloth, for women, and any fully covered dress for children, will be in force until the State government decides on implementing a code on the lines given in the court order. The department has now decided to appeal to a Division Bench against the single judge’s order. It has rightly taken the position that the order was not in consonance with the Tamil Nadu Temple Entry Authorisation Act, 1947, which permits individual temples to frame rules relating to attire based on their own customs and traditions.
It is true that many places of worship belonging to all religions do have and enforce some sort of attire for worshippers and visitors. There are temples that insist that male devotees should be bare-bodied above the waist while inside their precincts, and many that allow only dhotis and bar trousers. However, these restrictions are framed by temple authorities based on local tradition and customs. The acceptability of the worshippers’ clothing is decided by local circumstances and ought not to be based on external decree, much less through a judicial diktat. In Tamil Nadu, tens of thousands of temples do come under the State government through the HR & CE Department, but that does not automatically mean that a writ of mandamus can be issued by the court to the authorities without sufficient cause or any public law principle. There is nothing to show that public authorities had failed to do their duty of protecting the ambience of temples all over the State. The judge’s code may not be unduly restrictive, but it raises the question whether there is any religious rule linking dress with devotion. It is not clear why the prescription is gender-based, when some kinds of apparel — shirts and trousers, for instance — are worn by both men and women. Judicial activism undoubtedly furthers public interest, but it is equally important that it is not used to impose a particular world view on the public.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/edi...icial-diktat/article8065315.ece?homepage=true

 

[krish44]

the judgement of single judge prescribing dress has been set aside.

what comes under the jurisdiction of temple authorities cannot be taken over by the courts.

Yesterday in a thengalai iyengar temple in chennai , some of the dress prescriptons have been put on boards as request and not as

an order.No enforcers for complying. very comforting to read and conform to if one wishes.

 

[renuka]

Yesterday in a thengalai iyengar temple in chennai , some of the dress prescriptons have been put on boards as request and not as

an order.No enforcers for complying. very comforting to read and conform to if one wishes.

Its not fair!

Not at all fair that humans are not compelled but the temple elephant is compelled to only be adorned in a specific manner!LOL

 

[Vaagmi]

Its not fair!

Not at all fair that humans are not compelled but the temple elephant is compelled to only be adorned in a specific manner!LOL

Yes. Very true and reasonable.

The temple authorities should put up a board in the temple exclusively to be read by elephants. Then elephants which are disciplined to respect culture will go adorn themselves with pattai or naamam as they like and then come to the temple wearing a Elephant dhoti or an elephant churidaar. They will also make fun of the naked elephants which come to the temple without adorning themselves with anything, leave alone the pattai or naamam.

LOL.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

Yes. Very true and reasonable.

The temple authorities should put up a board in the temple exclusively to be read by elephants. Then elephants which are disciplined to respect culture will go adorn themselves with pattai or naamam as they like and then come to the temple wearing a Elephant dhoti or an elephant churidaar. They will also make fun of the naked elephants which come to the temple without adorning themselves with anything, leave alone the pattai or naamam.

LOL.

Here a Priest was suspended for putting wrong Namam violating the code! The Mutt claimed that the priests had put the Thenkalai namam instead of Vadakalai namam.

A TTD spokesman however said the guidelines of the Supreme Court have to be followed. “Since there was a mistake, it was corrected and the concerned priest was suspended,” he said. According to temple sources, priests are planning to go to court over the issue.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...fDgeDc4Dh817gOpWw&sig2=ubxubp3NskEH6mLhZ5UHGg

 

[auh]

courts should intervene and pass an order mandating that the acceptance of employment of the elephant is obtained in writing, from the elephant, before using them in temples.

 

[rishikesan]

Aacharamana, vaideharhal are pure & they wear decent Panchakachcham with uthiriam around ( not on shoulders ) adds to sanctity of the Temple. We should respect all such Males &also respect
all Madisar Mamis Let us welcome anything which is traditional, because one feels happy & find peace as we enter the Temples, People go to Temples & feel that their difficulties would be taken care of be the GOD because these are centuries old & one can smell the everlasting Gift of God
A.Srinivasan

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Rishi Sir,

No one is forced to wear panchakaccham or madisAr, while going to temples.

The problem is that men and women wish to wear shorts/ jeans + T'shirs !

AFAIK, jeans pants are washed very very rarely and some are torn in every possible place.

 

[mkrishna100]

AFAIK, jeans pants are washed very very rarely and some are torn in every possible place.

If a Normal Pant , Shirt , Dhoti is torn in some places you are looked upon like a beggar but if a jeans pant is torn in various places you are looked upon as a the latest fashion star .