Diabetes - The slow killer amoung Indians.

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I think it is in the concept stage in India.

Blood sugar testing strip to cost as less as Rs 5 - Times Of India

I think that is from a different source too.....

Cheap Paper-Based Test For Diabetics Coming To India

Cheers!

One odd question about cheap paper strip for testing. If the paper is made of sugar cane waste, like it is done in Punalur, how reliable the reading could be?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Slow and steady like the proverbial tortoise...

always progressing like the proverbial rabbit...

these were called the disease of the rich

but now affect poorer people as well l!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

It will be wiser to marry a person who is not genetically at high risk for diabetes

so that the offspring stand a good chance of being diabetes free.

I know a family whre all the seven sons were diabetes prone.

Some of them also got married to diabetes prone girls. net result...

The daughter of one of the brothers had to undergo kidney transplant at a very young age.

All said and done about diet and exercise, a great deal depends on genes. If you are pre-disposed to get this condition or have higher risk of getting this condition, you do not have choice. I agree you need to take all precaution, but you have to accept the condition and live with it.

There is no guilt, as you may not have all the controls in your hand.

 

[prasad1]

It will be wiser to marry a person who is not genetically at high risk for diabetes

so that the offspring stand a good chance of being diabetes free.

I know a family whre all the seven sons were diabetes prone.

Some of them also got married to diabetes prone girls. net result...

The daughter of one of the brothers had to undergo kidney transplant at a very young age.

I do not think you mean what it seems. I do not think you are condemning every person of high risk not to have children. If you mean what it implies, more than half the population should not have children. Then the question arises about all those people with genetic defect, should they also not have children. I think that is a slippery slope, you do not want to go there.

 

[prasad1]

One odd question about cheap paper strip for testing. If the paper is made of sugar cane waste, like it is done in Punalur, how reliable the reading could be?

Sir,
I trust the strip will be neutral. You can test the strip and meter.

 

[prasad1]

Mr. Raghy



I will await for your post.

 

[Raghy]

Mr. Raghy



I will await for your post.

Sri.Prasad, Greetings.

I just got back home; night shift. It is Saabji Basmati rice ( Made in India).( Comes in couple of varieties too. Classic, daily use.. etc. It may have par-boiled too. But Par-boiled rice is not used by most vaishnavas since it is pre-cooked so it is "shesham"). It is claimed, it has its Glycemic index tested and claims to have Low GI. doesn't say how low though. Tastes very nice though. Even my wife treats herself with a small cup of this rice once a week. By the way, we use a spread ( in place of margerine or butter) called 'Pro-active'. This claims it actively 'lowers cholestrol level'. It also claims it is 'clinically proven'. I think, these products may be worth checking.

Cheers!

 

[prasad1]

The symptoms you should not ignore if you diabetic are: the buzz words? Blurred vision (retinopathy), facial and pedal swelling (nephropathy), numbness (neuropathy), chest pressure (coronary artery disease), all form the center stage. Some of us know these. Yet it doesn’t harm us to remind ourselves how life threatening this disease can be, if you do not take precaution.

Thanks Mr. Raghy.

 

[sarang]

The strip will carry a printed code (as in the case of strips you buy now) which is to be deducted from the measured value. Or if results are shown by colour, a filter will be supplied to filter the spectrum.

Last year I saw a report that a new equipment was under development which will do all the tests with a small qty of blood and give a 40 page report of the results. The device is yet to see daylight.

I am just reminded of 'computer horoscopy'; you just give the time, date and place of birth; the computer, in a jiffy, will print out the past and the future.

One odd question about cheap paper strip for testing. If the paper is made of sugar cane waste, like it is done in Punalur, how reliable the reading could be?

 

[sarang]

I like this. Since the general advice nowadays to the couples is to consult a doctor and have a medical check up. The boy's and girls's medical horoscopes will be matched by a medjosyar. He will compare the strength and weaknesses of the existing, possible and potential illnesses in the two medscopes and will either reject the alliance outright or suggest medpariharams in different hospitals. A new profession in the making.

Despite all these worthwhile precautions, if the couples face med-disconnect, the blame can be shared by the greedy medjosyar, wrong reports (incorrect casting of horoscopes), wrong samples given for the test (like wrong birth time) or sheer cheating by the partners. The possibilities are endless. The opportunities for minting are enormous.

It will be wiser to marry a person who is not genetically at high risk for diabetes

so that the offspring stand a good chance of being diabetes free.

I know a family whre all the seven sons were diabetes prone.

Some of them also got married to diabetes prone girls. net result...

The daughter of one of the brothers had to undergo kidney transplant at a very young age.

 

[sarang]

"diabolic' symptoms?

The symptoms you should not ignore if you diabolic are: the buzz words? Blurred vision (retinopathy), facial and pedal swelling (nephropathy), numbness (neuropathy), chest pressure (coronary artery disease), all form the center stage. Some of us know these. Yet it doesn’t harm us to remind ourselves how life threatening this disease can be, if you do not take precaution.

Thanks Mr. Raghy.

 

[prasad1]

thanks

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Marrying and producing children are every individual's RIGHT.
I am not curbing them. I ionly said it is better to make sure that diabetes does not play a prominent role in both the families. Over and above that everything is left to your OWN choice .
if people were a little more careful in selecting their life partners on medical grounds
MUCH of the suffering of the abnormal children will be reduced.

I do not think you mean what it seems. I do not think you are condemning every person of high risk not to have children. If you mean what it implies, more than half the population should not have children. Then the question arises about all those people with genetic defect, should they also not have children. I think that is a slippery slope, you do not want to go there.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

In the physiotherapy clinic I met a young mother and her two year old son.

The boy was dressed well and wore gold ornaments. He had thich curly hair and long

attractive eyelahses. He clung to his mother like a wet bird. Later I lerned from the

doctor that he had some serious congenital defects which had rendered him without

the ability to move. He was totally blind!

His mother still had the hope of being able to bring some movements in him. She

brought the child for the physiotherapy regularly. She ran from specialist to specialist

seeking advice. I spoke to the boy before I knew all these details. When I called out

his name he gave a brilliant smile.

So I felt really very touched to learn his plight later on.

The doctor also said that he may not live for very long!

Probably it was the best for the boy but for the mother and father....???

 

[renuka]

It will be wiser to marry a person who is not genetically at high risk for diabetes

so that the offspring stand a good chance of being diabetes free.

I know a family whre all the seven sons were diabetes prone.

Some of them also got married to diabetes prone girls. net result...

The daughter of one of the brothers had to undergo kidney transplant at a very young age.

Dear VR Ji,

Yahan Kal Kya Ho Kisne Jaana.

One might have the perfect genes..no risk for any disease and be a picture of health but can just walk out the door and be knocked down by a speeding car,
he/she can die from anything from fire,water,gun shot wound etc.

Death is inevitable and can come in any form.

All of us are having the risk of death coming nearer and nearer which each sunset and sunrise.

So should no one marry?

 

[renuka]

In the physiotherapy clinic I met a young mother and her two year old son.

The boy was dressed well and wore gold ornaments. He had thich curly hair and long

attractive eyelahses. He clung to his mother like a wet bird. Later I lerned from the

doctor that he had some serious congenital defects which had rendered him without

the ability to move. He was totally blind!

His mother still had the hope of being able to bring some movements in him. She

brought the child for the physiotherapy regularly. She ran from specialist to specialist

seeking advice. I spoke to the boy before I knew all these details. When I called out

his name he gave a brilliant smile.

So I felt really very touched to learn his plight later on.

The doctor also said that he may not live for very long!

Probably it was the best for the boy but for the mother and father....???

The parents will feel sad for a while but VR Ji..I have seen parents who have children with serious diseases and the parents welcome death for their children after a while becos they love their kids too much and would prefer death to ease the child's suffering.

 

[sarang]

Marry with both eyes open, that is all! Strike a balance - medical reports do not match, but horoscopes do - say. Management tools can be applied to get the best possible final selection. Six sigma experts may know the answer.

Dear VR Ji,

Yahan Kal Kya Ho Kisne Jaana.

One might have the perfect genes..no risk for any disease and be a picture of health but can just walk out the door and be knocked down by a speeding car,
he/she can die from anything from fire,water,gun shot wound etc.

Death is inevitable and can come in any form.

All of us are having the risk of death coming nearer and nearer which each sunset and sunrise.

So should no one marry?

 

[renuka]

Marrying and producing children are every individual's RIGHT.
I am not curbing them. I ionly said it is better to make sure that diabetes does not play a prominent role in both the families. Over and above that everything is left to your OWN choice .
if people were a little more careful in selecting their life partners on medical grounds
MUCH of the suffering of the abnormal children will be reduced.

Dear VR ji,

This is only possible in an arranged marriage or a loveless marriage.

Some people even marry people with cancer even though they know the person is dying cos they love them so much.


Couples these days after marriage do a general screening test to look for any risk for certain diseases like Thalassemia Major or any genetic condition which might be incompatible with life before having kids.

BTW Type 2 Diabetes is a lifestyle disease.

Type 1 Diabetes is NOT a lifestyle disease. It occurs due to Autoimmune Destruction of Insulin producing cells in the Islet of Langerhans in the Pancreas.

In Type I..one has to be on Insulin..even kids who have Type 1 Diabetes are on Insulin.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

#40

Dr Renuka Madam needs an affectionate pat on her back for the above
statement. God bless you.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur

 

[prasad1]

In the physiotherapy clinic I met a young mother and her two year old son.

The boy was dressed well and wore gold ornaments. He had thich curly hair and long

attractive eyelahses. He clung to his mother like a wet bird. Later I lerned from the

doctor that he had some serious congenital defects which had rendered him without

the ability to move. He was totally blind!

His mother still had the hope of being able to bring some movements in him. She

brought the child for the physiotherapy regularly. She ran from specialist to specialist

seeking advice. I spoke to the boy before I knew all these details. When I called out

his name he gave a brilliant smile.

So I felt really very touched to learn his plight later on.

The doctor also said that he may not live for very long!

Probably it was the best for the boy but for the mother and father....???

VR Ji,
Again I think you are expressing your frustration, and NOT ​your views. I know this can not be your view.
I do admit that if you know of the pain and suffering for the future child you should do everything in your power not to bring that child to life. But if a child is borne with a challenge you accept it as God's grace.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

#39

Really I am taken aback to read this message. I on behalf of everyone in this
forum pray to the God for the restoration of vision to the child at the earliest
opportunity. Mother can recite the Shri Kamakshi Stotram daily. If the Child's
mother prays to Goddess Kamakshi and does an Abishegam to the Goddess with
Eye Malars to the Ambal, the Child, I am sure, will certainly regain the vision.

Balasubramanian
Ambattur

 

[Naina_Marbus]

Marry with both eyes open, that is all! Strike a balance - medical reports do not match, but horoscopes do - say. Management tools can be applied to get the best possible final selection. Six sigma experts may know the answer.

A good alternative to satisfy all parties - if there is medical mismatch: adopt a child.
Or use IVF or AID (famously used by our Mahabharata ancsetors)!

 

[Athreyan]

A good alternative to satisfy all parties - if there is medical mismatch: adopt a child.
Or use IVF or AID (famously used by our Mahabharata ancsetors)!

I know one situation like this. In my home town, one lady kept getting miscarriages. At last the doctors informed it was happening due to the blood groups of my friend and his wife. More over, his wife went to her native village after 5 th month near Karigiri which was close to nothing and failed to have regular check-ups. They ended up adopting a daughter from one of their relatives.

Thanks.

 

[vgane]

I was wondering why persons who are not obese also get Type 2 Diabetes till I read this article:
Type 2 diabetes is popularly associated with obesity and a sedentary lifestyle. However, just as there are obese people without type 2 diabetes, there are lean people with the disease.

It has long been hypothesised that type 2 diabetes in lean people is more ‘genetically driven’. A new study from a research team led by the Peninsula College of Medicine and Dentistry (PCMD), University of Exeter, which involved research institutions from around the world, has for the first time proved that lean type 2 diabetes patients have a larger genetic disposition to the disease than their obese counterparts. The study has also identified a new genetic factor associated only with lean diabetes sufferers. The study is published in PLoS Genetics.

Using genetic data from genome-wide association studies, the research team tested genetic markers across the genome in approximately 5,000 lean patients with type 2 diabetes, 13,000 obese patients with the disease and 75,000 healthy controls.

The team found differences in genetic enrichment between lean and obese cases, which support the hypothesis that lean diabetes sufferers have a greater genetic predisposition to the disease. This is in contrast to obese patients with type 2 diabetes, where factors other than type 2 diabetes genes are more likely to be responsible. In addition, genetic variants near the gene, LAMA1, were linked to type 2 diabetes risk for the first time, with an effect that appeared only in the lean patients.
www.exeter.ac.uk - June 22, 2:48 PM

Diabetes is a silent killer...Let us take all the precautions to get the better of it

 

[Somayaji.S]

Diabetes-The slow killer among indians

பாகக்காய் பாகற்காய் Bittergourd, Karela, Momordica charantia

It has modest "Hypoglycemic Effect"--but does NOT control "Clinical Diabetes mellitus"--Type II(NIDDM).

I have mentioned about our Study in a new Thread -"Naaval Pazha Vitthu" (in Tamil)in Food and Recipes.