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prasad1
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I have no argument with your statement, on the contrary I agree with you. The implementation has gone wrong because of the vote bank politics. I am against quota of any sort. I am not condoning the government for mollycoddling of minorities (muslims). But do I hold the community responsible for the crimes of the government?
That is why I wrote against Mr. Sudheswer's comment, which is against a community in general. I know he had a muslim friend. It used to said in the old west of America, that "the good Indian is the dead Indian".
India is never going to be a Hindu nation, so no point in marginalizing an entire community. It needs to be balanced goes without saying. Unfortunately policies differ from practice.
I see I am antagonizing my friends, but I am not that far from their views. It is just that it looks bad to bash your own countrymen in public site.
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venkat2206
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Dear Members,
Some of the aritcles have got deviated from the main subject. What is the turth behind this - revenues are going to a specific section of the people or not ? This is the vital question. If the answer is "Yes" then let us not be a party to the collection drive.
Venkat
prasad1
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Should I thank you for the compliment or take offense to the insult???? LOL
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Dear Prasadji,Should I thank you for the compliment or take offense to the insult???? LOL
I think it doesnt matter. What matter more is about what you would do next?
prasad1
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Dear Prasadji,
I think it doesnt matter. What matter more is about what you would do next?
It matters to me as the supposed Insult was hurled at me. But I am nimble and I did not accept it so it goes back to the person who hurled it (according to Buddha).
What do I need to do? I can not change Indian constitution. Secondly when I was there I accepted it, now it does not matter to me.
There are enough minority haters in this country, enough white americans hate colored Americans. Hatred of a community based on the actions of few in the past is not unique to India. I am just sorry that people like Sarang fall into this category of bigots.
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In the entire world Hindus are only secularists. Muslims, if they are true Muslims, cannot be secularists. Nor Christians are Catholics. Christians are pitting us against Muslims and Muslims are pitting us against Christians. Secularism is purely a political word and has no relevance to the people at large. There are many volunteers in Hindus to work for "secularism".
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What would you do if you could? allow a slaughter house to come next opposite a temple?
I see you wanting to maintain or enhance the status and that does matter.
Calling for secularism on side without offering anything to it and asking for concessions and special rules on the other dont go well my dear friend. Show me one instance where these communities have been inclusive and without a hidden agenda. The OP is all about this farce.Calling it out cant be termed hatred. If all the nonsense that happens point out to people from a community and the community does nothing to separate themselves from this, you are riding too high and too long on the secularist tirade.
I can visualise some hatred in this.
prasad1
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Please visit Mathura, there is a madushala adjoining the Temple. Visit Kalibari in Kolkatta, you have slaughterhouse in the temple. That is neither here nor there.
If you want to preserve the sanctity of temple surround, you will keep it clean, not rent space to commercialism. Please visit Golden Temple in Amritsar and then decide for yourself how a Temple complex should be maintained.
I did not call for secularism, if you read me right you would see that I was born in a secular country, and accepted the constitution. I do not want theocracy of any kind. If you do not have others religions to hate you will find some other reason to marginalize another community to hate within your own religion.
There is one character in ayn rand's atlas shrugged, I do not recollect his name, but he is called wet nurse. He is the government's watch dog in the steel plant of hank rearden. He always makes profound, firm statements about people - he is opinionated, he is bigoted, he is despicable - but makes vague and evasive statements on physical issues - like for steel melting, I think, needs high temperature (he is graduate in metallurgy). Anyway, he realises his folly, and is redeemed, and realises the virtue of the 'old wisdom'.
This is a classic mindset of the psec (pseudo secularist) to throw such word sets; blame hindutva, modi and anyone exposing hindu cause.
This is a classic mindset of the psec (pseudo secularist) to throw such word sets; blame hindutva, modi and anyone exposing hindu cause.
prasad1
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Mr. Sarang I take offense to your talking the mantle of UPHOLDER OF HINDUISM. You do not have the exclusivity to Hinduism or Sanatan Dharma. Santana Dharma was never cultist. It is the HINDUTVA brand of RSS that is a cult.
If Upholding Hinduism does not means killing or eliminating your opponents.
What happened to
” अयं बन्धुरयं नेति गणना लघुचेतसां उदारचरितानां तु वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं ”
ayam bandhurayam neti ganana laghuchetasam udaracharitanam tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam
Only small men discriminate saying: One is a relative; the other is a stranger. For those who live magnanimously the entire world constitutes but a family.
S
sudeshwer
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Addition to No.24, I give below the flg.: I know Mr Prasad will be angry with me but this is the fact
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book:
Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.
Here's how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of Halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature Halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% (True - there are 2 systems of taxations here)
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% Muslim states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend Madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.
Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!
Obama appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn't this make you feel safer already?
Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.
DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus , Syria , as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).
NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering...
Why Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already??
That should make the US ' homeland much safer, huh!! Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?
Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically -- no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia
Religiously -- no because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically -- no because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically - no because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually - no because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly Father, nor is he ever called Love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation...perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. -- They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
Can a Muslim be a good soldier??? Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book:
Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.
Here's how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of Halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature Halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% (True - there are 2 systems of taxations here)
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% Muslim states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend Madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.
Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!
Obama appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn't this make you feel safer already?
Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.
DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus , Syria , as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).
NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering...
Why Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already??
That should make the US ' homeland much safer, huh!! Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood ?
Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically -- no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia
Religiously -- no because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically -- no because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically - no because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually - no because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly Father, nor is he ever called Love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation...perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. -- They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
Can a Muslim be a good soldier??? Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
Naina_Marbus
Active member
prasad1
Active member
Mr. Sudheswer,
I do not know why I should be angry with you for quoting some statistics from some book.
You by using such large font totally negated any effect of your post, people generally loose it when you have to scroll screen after screen to read a post.
Secondly you obviously did not read the forum rules, you are not supposed to use color red (it is reserved for the moderator).
You and others are delusional if you think I am a MUSLIM. I believe in Sanatan Dharma, but I am not a follower of any CULT.
Unlike some of the misguided members in this site I believe India will be multi-cultural, multi-religious society, so PIO need to find a way to live harmoniously with others.
I repeat
” अयं बन्धुरयं नेति गणना लघुचेतसां उदारचरितानां तु वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं ”
ayam bandhurayam neti ganana laghuchetasam udaracharitanam tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam
Only small men discriminate saying: One is a relative; the other is a stranger. For those who live magnanimously the entire world constitutes but a family.
I do not know why I should be angry with you for quoting some statistics from some book.
You by using such large font totally negated any effect of your post, people generally loose it when you have to scroll screen after screen to read a post.
Secondly you obviously did not read the forum rules, you are not supposed to use color red (it is reserved for the moderator).
You and others are delusional if you think I am a MUSLIM. I believe in Sanatan Dharma, but I am not a follower of any CULT.
Unlike some of the misguided members in this site I believe India will be multi-cultural, multi-religious society, so PIO need to find a way to live harmoniously with others.
I repeat
” अयं बन्धुरयं नेति गणना लघुचेतसां उदारचरितानां तु वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं ”
ayam bandhurayam neti ganana laghuchetasam udaracharitanam tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam
Only small men discriminate saying: One is a relative; the other is a stranger. For those who live magnanimously the entire world constitutes but a family.
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sudeshwer
Guest
No.43 Dear Mr Prasad, thanks for branding me and others as misguided members. we will certainly learn from you. I am sorry I didnt know the forum rules; moreover, I just copied anmd pasted it; had I know the rules I would have certainly reduced the font nd also de-highlighting' it. Sorry Mr Praveen. At the sametime I must point out here that I have seen number of 'postings' in highlight fonts. I clearly understand you are not muslim; that does not help in any way due to yr observation on members materials.. we will exchange views decently; that is I want
This vasudeival kutumbakam is a convenient but misunderstood vakya used indiscriminately by some. I will post them in a separate thread. Another oft quoted one is 'yaadum ure, yavarum kelir'. I cannot call any country as my own and move in just like that, but that luxury is available to others to enter india and merge with the locals with disastrous consequences. They are not to be treated as illegal immigrants but as honoured guests. There are about 20 million bangladeshi illegal entrants distributed in several sensitive pockets including mumbai.
Some really have a twisted and weird view of realities.
Observations by:
Settling of border dispute with transfer of enclaves and population is another issue which will gladden the heart of vasudeiva kutumbakam loyalists. India will give away 111 enclaves and get 52 in return, will waive compensation for excess land given, fate of population in balance.
More in vasudeiva kutumbakam!
Some really have a twisted and weird view of realities.
Observations by:
The Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA) is a non-partisan, autonomous body dedicated to objective research and policy relevant studies on
all aspects of defence and security.
"Islamic fundamentalist extremist groups are growing in Bangladesh and they are able to expand their activities in West Bengal as well. Some of such organistaions are Jamait-e-Islami-e-Hind, Jamait-Ahle-Hadis, Students Islamic Organization (SIO), Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and Tabligh-e-Jamat. Four of them are most active. Meetings have taken place between Jamaat-e-Islami and West Bengal based radical Muslim organizations and it is believed that ISI is behind them.
Illegal Bangladeshi Migration to India: Impact on Internal Security | Institute for Defence Studies and Analysesall aspects of defence and security.
"Islamic fundamentalist extremist groups are growing in Bangladesh and they are able to expand their activities in West Bengal as well. Some of such organistaions are Jamait-e-Islami-e-Hind, Jamait-Ahle-Hadis, Students Islamic Organization (SIO), Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and Tabligh-e-Jamat. Four of them are most active. Meetings have taken place between Jamaat-e-Islami and West Bengal based radical Muslim organizations and it is believed that ISI is behind them.
Settling of border dispute with transfer of enclaves and population is another issue which will gladden the heart of vasudeiva kutumbakam loyalists. India will give away 111 enclaves and get 52 in return, will waive compensation for excess land given, fate of population in balance.
More in vasudeiva kutumbakam!
prasad1
Active member
There are good Indians and there are bad Indians. Similarly there are good Muslims and bad muslims and some of them are Indians. Mr. Sarang you paint with a broad brush.
The trouble is that when I see Sachin play, I do not see the Maharashtrian.. Just like when I hear Kishore Kumar, I do not hear the Bengali. I do not label APJ Abdul Kalam, Lata Mangeshkar, Amjad Ali Khan. Amitabh Bachchan, Narayan Murthy.... when I see them, I simply forget which region they come from. I only see the face of an Indian. But perhaps I am only one of the few who think like that.
Some of the PIO's have migrated and settled in other countries and other parts of India. We understand how some of the narrow minded locals feel, from Shiv sana in Mumbai, or Raj Thakre in Maharastra, KU KLEX Klan in USA, Skinheads in Europe. I am sorry you fit in with these fear mongers.
The trouble is that when I see Sachin play, I do not see the Maharashtrian.. Just like when I hear Kishore Kumar, I do not hear the Bengali. I do not label APJ Abdul Kalam, Lata Mangeshkar, Amjad Ali Khan. Amitabh Bachchan, Narayan Murthy.... when I see them, I simply forget which region they come from. I only see the face of an Indian. But perhaps I am only one of the few who think like that.
Some of the PIO's have migrated and settled in other countries and other parts of India. We understand how some of the narrow minded locals feel, from Shiv sana in Mumbai, or Raj Thakre in Maharastra, KU KLEX Klan in USA, Skinheads in Europe. I am sorry you fit in with these fear mongers.
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Instead of making irrelevant person-oriented statements, study past and present history, what is happening in the neighbouring countries and kashmir, what the media in the country you live say, what is the status, rights and privileges of hindus in islamic countries; in short study today's hindu-muslim-christian issue at all levels - micro, midi and macro. Sachin and narayanamurty are irrelevant for the discussion
Our sastras permit even killing of a cow if it attacks you and ahimsa is not a universal 'non-killing' rule.
Only one of the issues for shiv sena was the hogging of jobs, livelihood, property and opportunities by non-maharashtrians. Large influx of outsiders will disrupt local harmony; as US and UK are now trying to curtail guest workers; perhaps you can advise UK and US authorities to lift all restrictions on foreign workers and allow unlimited free entry and citizenship - vasudeiva kutumbakam. By the way, narayanamurty approves US govt's stand on restricting foreign (read indians) workers to give jobs to locals.
Our sastras permit even killing of a cow if it attacks you and ahimsa is not a universal 'non-killing' rule.
Only one of the issues for shiv sena was the hogging of jobs, livelihood, property and opportunities by non-maharashtrians. Large influx of outsiders will disrupt local harmony; as US and UK are now trying to curtail guest workers; perhaps you can advise UK and US authorities to lift all restrictions on foreign workers and allow unlimited free entry and citizenship - vasudeiva kutumbakam. By the way, narayanamurty approves US govt's stand on restricting foreign (read indians) workers to give jobs to locals.
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sudeshwer
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Mr Sarang, I just now got a correction. the correct webcite of Amir Khan is "<http://www.humanityhospital.org>". Its objectives are different than what we are debating. this is posted to make the point clear. but what we talked, posted, debated etc about muslims (particularly converted muslims; in fact all muslims in the subcontinent are converts) are undisputable inspite of some secularists' objection
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venkat2206
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Sarang Ji,
Now please confirm what is the correct status. If Sudeshwar Ji's informatin is correct, then all of us wasted our time in this thread and in the process exchanged some avoidable comments about some of our own members. In a securlar country like India, there are very many good people in all religion and few bad elements - it is really very disturbing when there are communal riots / bomb blasts happended in the country. I am in Mumbai which is a very common place for all these things. Even then, I cannot come to the conclusion that all the muslims are bad or terrorists.
Venkat
renuka
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Dear Venkat ji,
Do not worry about members commenting about each other.
You see that's human nature.
When humans sense an "enemy" who does not see eye to eye with them..we fight with them.
Then when the "enemy" leaves peace prevails.
But unfortunately humans do not like to sit idle.
So if we have no enemy to fight with we will start fighting among ourselves.!!LOL
This thread is becoming real interesting like Croc Vs Python thread.
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