What foods constitute "Jaathi Dushtam"

[Jeeyardaasa]

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Meat, alcohol, onion, garlic are by jaathi, dushtam.....I have recently sinned by unknowingly consuming gongura(telugu) pickle /pulicha keerai(tamil) and this belongs to Jaathi dushtam. I now, need to know what foods fall under Jaathi dushtam ?

 

[renuka]

Meat, alcohol, onion, garlic are by jaathi, dushtam.....I have recently sinned by unknowingly consuming gongura(telugu) pickle /pulicha keerai(tamil) and this belongs to Jaathi dushtam. I now, need to know what foods fall under Jaathi dushtam ?

1)Frozen food.

2)Food stored more than 4 hours

3)Coffee and tea are Rajasic but dont know if its Dusthtam.

4)Fermented food..Cheese is considered Tamasic.

5)Food purchased by using Haram money.

6)Food that is not Halal.

7)Food cooked in anger.

8)Food cooked by a person who had negative thoughts or ill intention.

9)Some include Mushrooms and Tubers too.

10)Food that is not offered to God first.





List is very very long...if we follow everything we would have nothing to eat.

 

[auh]

...List is very very long...if we follow everything we would have nothing to eat.

Very true.

 

[auh]

Desikan's aahara niyamam has the classification, I believe.

 

[Jeeyardaasa]

Desikan's aahara niyamam has the classification, I believe.

Can you post it @auh if you have it,
Bottle Guard is considered Jaathi Dushtam
Ridge Gourd is also considered Jaathi Dushtam
I am not sure about Potato

1)Frozen food.

2)Food stored more than 4 hours

3)Coffee and tea are Rajasic but dont know if its Dusthtam.

4)Fermented food..Cheese is considered Tamasic.

5)Food purchased by using Haram money.

6)Food that is not Halal.

7)Food cooked in anger.

8)Food cooked by a person who had negative thoughts or ill intention.

9)Some include Mushrooms and Tubers too.

10)Food that is not offered to God first.





List is very very long...if we follow everything we would have nothing to eat.

@Renuka the ones about 'Food' you mentioned belong to Asraya Dushtam and can be cleaned by offering them to Sri Krushna although outside hotel foods are restricted because they are not offered to Krushna and nistha they follow may be nasty....

Coffee and Tea, yes I think they belong to Jaathi Dustham

Even I used to take them except meat/alcohol before samskaaram but after that I stopped consuming them ...Doesn't matter really..Starting few days may be tough but after that you get used to it as we have many alternates.

 

[Vaagmi]

Meat, alcohol, onion, garlic are by jaathi, dushtam.....I have recently sinned by unknowingly consuming gongura(telugu) pickle /pulicha keerai(tamil) and this belongs to Jaathi dushtam. I now, need to know what foods fall under Jaathi dushtam ?

Any standard Desika Prabhantham edition will give you this information under the work AAhaaraniyamam (ஆஹார நியமம்). It is made up of 21 poems and gives a complete list of food which are to kept away. Samples:

வாயிலல்லா வாயிலினால் வந்த சோறும்
வரகு முதல் ஆகாதென்று உரைத்த சோறும்
வாயினின்றும் விழுமவை தாம் பட்ட சோறும்
வாய்க்கொண்ட கவளத்தின் மிகுந்த சோறும்
தீயவர் கண்படும் சோறும் தீதற்சோறும்
சீரையுரை தும்மல் இவை பட்ட சோறும்
நாய் முதலானவை பார்க்கும் தீண்டும் சோறும்
நாள் தூய்தல்லாச் சோறும் நண்ணாச்சோறே.

அத்திகள் பேரார்க்கு இறலி வெண்கத்தாரி
ஆல் அரசு நறுவிலி புங்கு ஆயில் ஆரை
புத்தி கொல்லி குறிஞ்சி தான்றிகுசும்பை வேளை
புன்முருங்கை முருங்கை சுகமுளரி உள்ளி
சிற்றவரைகொம்மட்டி பண்ணை தொய்யில்
சீங்காடன் தேறல் ஊவைபனை மயூரன்
சுத்தியில்லா நிலத்தில் இவை கடம்பு காளான்
சுரை பீர்க்குச் சணம் தின்னார் சுருதியோரே.

மால் அமுது செய்யாமல் வந்ததெல்லாம்
வருவிருந்தில் வழங்காமல் வைத்தவெல்லாம்
காலம் இதுவன்று என்று கழித்ததெல்லாம்
கடையில் வரும் கறிமுதலாக் கழுவாவெல்லாம்
நூல் இசையா வழிகளினால் வந்தவெல்லாம்
நுகராதது உடன்பாகம் செய்தவெல்லாம்
சீலமில்லாச் சிறியோராக்கினவும் நல்லோர்
செலமலங்கள் பட்டனவும் தின்னார் தாமே.

Get a copy today and read it. Your doubts will be cleared.

 

[prasad1]

Very true.

That is the idea.
Yes any list made is dated and useless.
The list is made before refrigeration became available.

But anyone who wants to get pre-digested gibberish, written down in easily swallowable morsel, does not deserve to eat.

 

[prasad1]

1)
5)Food purchased by using Haram money.

6)Food that is not Halal.

7)Food cooked in anger.

8)Food cooked by a person who had negative thoughts or ill intention.

9)Some include Mushrooms and Tubers too.

10)Food that is not offered to God first.







List is very very long...if we follow everything we would have nothing to eat.

What Jaathi?
What about Black Money is it Haram?
Halal vegetarian?
Food cooked by a neglected wife or servant?
How about Hotel food?
Oh most of the Hotel food is stored for days not hours.
Fermented!!!
What about Dahi, alcohol, bread etc.
What if the Gods really start to eat?
What about the food that will be eaten in space travel?
What about the food rgar people in Alaska eat for 6 months?

 

[apsarathy]

Any food that doesn't bring you bad cholesterol is good food!!

 

[prasad1]

Any food that doesn't bring you bad cholesterol is good food!!

I agree with your post.

 

[krish44]

Forget all classification of foods.

Eat what is put in front of you without whining about cholestrol or BP, knee pain

Accept your age.

Respect your wife so that she does not poison you....

 

[renuka]

What Jaathi?
What about Black Money is it Haram?
Halal vegetarian?
Food cooked by a neglected wife or servant?
How about Hotel food?
Oh most of the Hotel food is stored for days not hours.
Fermented!!!
What about Dahi, alcohol, bread etc.
What if the Gods really start to eat?
What about the food that will be eaten in space travel?
What about the food rgar people in Alaska eat for 6 months?

That is why I said it we follow rules we wont have anything to eat.

 

[biswa]

Telugu Brahmins seem to eat plenty of ghonghura pickle. Doesn't seem like it is forbidden for them.

 

[renuka]

All forms of pickles are Rajasic.

There is no doubt here..one should only consume food in fresh form.

 

[renuka]

Telugu Brahmins seem to eat plenty of ghonghura pickle. Doesn't seem like it is forbidden for them.

Forbidden is always sexier!

 

[krish44]

Not necessarily renukaji

In forbidden city in beijing,you will see only fat ming emperors and Mao tse tung portraits.lol

 

[Vaagmi]

Wisdom is always listed for posterity.B y your logic it is all useless because it is all predigested gibberish written down in easily swallowable morsel. Hope you would stop copy pasting from today because of the dawn of this new truth/revelation from some heavenly messenger. LOL.

 

[prasad1]

I did not know that Donald Trump is active in TB forum. But distinctive nasty style, and bullying can not be mistaken. But this is one man crusade to insult as many people as possible, just like Trump. Unfortunately when the truth comes and smacks Trump, he just whines.

Just because it is written in Palm leaves, it does not become truth. Those who are stuck in bullock cart in the automotive age will never understand Cars. LOL

 

[Vaagmi]

I did not know that Donald Trump is active in TB forum. But distinctive nasty style, and bullying can not be mistaken. But this is one man crusade to insult as many people as possible, just like Trump. Unfortunately when the truth comes and smacks Trump, he just whines.

Just because it is written in Palm leaves, it does not become truth. Those who are stuck in bullock cart in the automotive age will never understand Cars. LOL

Goundamanis keep defending themselves spiritedly indeed here (I do not have to import even examples from U.S. There is sufficient stock in India). LOL.

And they claim they speak for the majority here. The majority is just silent tolerating these Goundamanis. I am always ready for a poll. And this is a challenge. Dont keep whining. Gird up your loins-if necessary- and get into the fray.LOL.

What is written in palm leaves can never be the truth. But what is seen on a LED screen in an alien language is knowledge sacro sanct just because LED is connected to a jet aircraft and not a bullock cart. Strange logic indeed. They keep copy pasting such silly stuff from the virtual space thinking they are impressing people with their knowledge. How stupid people can get!!

 

[krish44]

Maximum accident in indian highways are caused by cars banging into bullock carts.....

Usually car occupants get hurt.

 

[Raji Ram]

Stupid is a banned word in a school in the U S of A.

If the teacher hears a student say it thrice, he will be sent out of school!!

And, I wonder who gave a :thumb: to that post!

 

[renuka]

Stupid is a banned word in a school in the U S of A.

If the teacher hears a student say it thrice, he will be sent out of school!!

And, I wonder who gave a :thumb: to that post!

But why three times?

Any reason?

BTW I found out why that strange rule of men to face being arrested if they stare at a female for more than 14 seconds? Remember?

It seems that in the animal kingdom a stare among animals beyond 14 seconds means intimidation and invite for fight or impending attack.

Therefore same rules apply for a human male too!LOL

 

[Vaagmi]

Stupid is a banned word in a school in the U S of A.

If the teacher hears a student say it thrice, he will be sent out of school!!

And, I wonder who gave a :thumb: to that post!

Stupid is not yet banned here in India and so someone, perhaps, gave that thumsup. Does it really matter? If yes, please explain how.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

1)Frozen food.

2)Food stored more than 4 hours

3)Coffee and tea are Rajasic but dont know if its Dusthtam.

4)Fermented food..Cheese is considered Tamasic.

5)Food purchased by using Haram money.

6)Food that is not Halal.

7)Food cooked in anger.

8)Food cooked by a person who had negative thoughts or ill intention.

9)Some include Mushrooms and Tubers too.

10)Food that is not offered to God first.





List is very very long...if we follow everything we would have nothing to eat.

Any standard Desika Prabhantham edition will give you this information under the work AAhaaraniyamam (ஆஹார நியமம்). It is made up of 21 poems and gives a complete list of food which are to kept away. Samples:

வாயிலல்லா வாயிலினால் வந்த சோறும்
வரகு முதல் ஆகாதென்று உரைத்த சோறும்
வாயினின்றும் விழுமவை தாம் பட்ட சோறும்
வாய்க்கொண்ட கவளத்தின் மிகுந்த சோறும்
தீயவர் கண்படும் சோறும் தீதற்சோறும்
சீரையுரை தும்மல் இவை பட்ட சோறும்
நாய் முதலானவை பார்க்கும் தீண்டும் சோறும்
நாள் தூய்தல்லாச் சோறும் நண்ணாச்சோறே.

அத்திகள் பேரார்க்கு இறலி வெண்கத்தாரி
ஆல் அரசு நறுவிலி புங்கு ஆயில் ஆரை
புத்தி கொல்லி குறிஞ்சி தான்றிகுசும்பை வேளை
புன்முருங்கை முருங்கை சுகமுளரி உள்ளி
சிற்றவரைகொம்மட்டி பண்ணை தொய்யில்
சீங்காடன் தேறல் ஊவைபனை மயூரன்
சுத்தியில்லா நிலத்தில் இவை கடம்பு காளான்
சுரை பீர்க்குச் சணம் தின்னார் சுருதியோரே.

மால் அமுது செய்யாமல் வந்ததெல்லாம்
வருவிருந்தில் வழங்காமல் வைத்தவெல்லாம்
காலம் இதுவன்று என்று கழித்ததெல்லாம்
கடையில் வரும் கறிமுதலாக் கழுவாவெல்லாம்
நூல் இசையா வழிகளினால் வந்தவெல்லாம்
நுகராதது உடன்பாகம் செய்தவெல்லாம்
சீலமில்லாச் சிறியோராக்கினவும் நல்லோர்
செலமலங்கள் பட்டனவும் தின்னார் தாமே.

Get a copy today and read it. Your doubts will be cleared.

Forget all classification of foods.

Eat what is put in front of you without whining about cholestrol or BP, knee pain

Accept your age.

Respect your wife so that she does not poison you....

True ! பசி வந்தால் ' பத்தும்' பறந்து பாேகும்

But ஔவை பாட்டு explained differently!

பசி வந்தால் பற்றும்(பத்து அல்ல) பறந்து போம்.
பசி ருசி அறியாது என்பர். ஒருவருக்கு கடுமையான பசி ஏற்படும் போது
அது என்ன சாப்பாடு உப்பு உறைப்பு இருக்கிறதா என எதுவும் பார்க்க மாட்டார்கள்


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[Raji Ram]

Stupid is not yet banned here in India and so someone, perhaps, gave that thumsup. Does it really matter? If yes, please explain how.

I know that the word 'stupid' is very much used in India; hence in our dear forum, Vaagmi Sir!

I was surprised because when someone irritates the other, :thumb: is not needed, imho!

P.S: There is a phrased in Tamil and you must be aware of it, Sir. It is 'kombu seevaRadhu'!