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Two more tests for evidence of spiritual energy
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Right knowledge can refine intelligence and help in developing finer qualities. Knowledge about spiritual energy and its creation will help one think in constructive ways because spiritual energy can be used only for constructive purposes. In the very least it will drive one in the path of constructive knowledge unlike the current knowledge which can easily lead one into the destructive path.
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Janaki Jambunathan
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Can you produce spiritual energy in the lab? ஒதைக்குதே!
What is the law of the conservation of energy?
The law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in a system remains constant ("is conserved"), although energy within the system can be changed from one form to another or transferred from one object to another. - Energycannot be created or destroyed, but it can be transformed.
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The law of conservation of energy works only for the physical energy. In the creation of spiritual energy there is synergy , that is extra energy is produced when energies are closely synchronized. That is my understanding.
But one thing is for sure, which is, spiritual energy is real and most likely works according to some laws. Firstly scientists need to have an open mind to accept the possibility of existence of spiritual energy. Then they have to make a serious inquiry into it and I am sure then there will be real expansion of knowledge.
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I would love to answer each of Sravna's and Janaki's comments and observations.
But I have decided to wait till the experiment is completed.
Only a few relevant observations:
Both Power and Energy are only experienced indirectly through their effects.
Presently the effect we are observing is the differential temperature change between the two identical Kadais.
There is no energy measurement.
We are simply measuring change in temperature due to loss of heat energy.
My "Simple" system is the room and the experimental setup.
Sravna is external to my system.
I have tried to make the two Kadais as symmetrical as possible in the simplest fashion.
If this "Simple" experiments leads us to any conclusions about "Spiritual Power/Energy", then we will go on to explain everything and
propose follow on experiments.
For the present all Scientists are required to have "Faith".
But I have decided to wait till the experiment is completed.
Only a few relevant observations:
Both Power and Energy are only experienced indirectly through their effects.
Presently the effect we are observing is the differential temperature change between the two identical Kadais.
There is no energy measurement.
We are simply measuring change in temperature due to loss of heat energy.
My "Simple" system is the room and the experimental setup.
Sravna is external to my system.
I have tried to make the two Kadais as symmetrical as possible in the simplest fashion.
If this "Simple" experiments leads us to any conclusions about "Spiritual Power/Energy", then we will go on to explain everything and
propose follow on experiments.
For the present all Scientists are required to have "Faith".
Oh and BTW,
I will conduct a few trial runs over the next few days to see the logistics of the setup and operations.
I am guessing that the total duration of this experiment shall be 15 mins at max.
I probably have limited recording time on my video camera.
I plan to do still pictures also.
But give me some time to figure out all the logistics of this "Simple" experiment.
I will conduct a few trial runs over the next few days to see the logistics of the setup and operations.
I am guessing that the total duration of this experiment shall be 15 mins at max.
I probably have limited recording time on my video camera.
I plan to do still pictures also.
But give me some time to figure out all the logistics of this "Simple" experiment.
Janaki Jambunathan
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Fair enough! - Boil experiment Boils down to this - to establish existance of Spiritual energy indirectly by its effect on temperature- correct?
Ready to wait ! have faith in Sabarimala!
I am on the move bet.16/9 and 26/9 and may not have access to see the experiment live Have to wait again after Sunday!
http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/showthread.php?t=33567
OK Faithful Yea,
Here is a link to the trial run video.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B24xQNZ-ct0WMVRNaHhoejEyQTA/view?ts=57d706f1
I suggest you just skip over fast and see the changes rapidly than go through 15 mins of a boring video.
If you want I can add superimpose some interesting energy transfer animations, like a ghost/spirit creeping in or out of the Kadais!
Here is a link to the trial run video.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B24xQNZ-ct0WMVRNaHhoejEyQTA/view?ts=57d706f1
I suggest you just skip over fast and see the changes rapidly than go through 15 mins of a boring video.
If you want I can add superimpose some interesting energy transfer animations, like a ghost/spirit creeping in or out of the Kadais!
Dear Sravna,
You can NOT claim any credit for something you did not find.
You were silent about it but right after debris was confirmed being part of MH 370..you are claiming its becos of your spirituality.
If you really feel its becos of your spirituality...then you should be able to tell me where is the main wreckage WITHOUT waiting for any news report on findings.
Sravna..be fair and just...all credit goes to personnel that has been combing the seas for a long time searching for some evidence of the plane.
Be frank..admit that you DID not find the wreckage.
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Dear Renuka,
If you look at the developments in the past 2 or 3 days, the debris found are thought to be game changers though previously too debris have been found.
Let me ask you this, what would you say if the mystery is solved because of the debris found in the last 2 days and which has not been solved in the past two years.
Of course not enough credit can be given to those who have been assiduously looking for the debris but should not the fact that the solution did not happen till now is some reason for thinking?
Sravna...usually I am quite civil with you...but I feel you are clearly claiming credit for something that had nothing to do with you.
I asked you about MH 370 even last year...that time you had no answers cos no debris which belonged to MH 370 was found..so if your powers worked now why it did not work last year?
Right after news report comes out..you are claiming credit for this.
Sravna...these are dealing with people's lives and unfound possible dead bodies...this is highly insensitive of you to feel that its becos of your powers the debris was found.
I am sorry to say this...arrogance has clouded your intellect.
Please wake up...before it consumes you fully.
When temperature goes down ..you wait for temperature charts and then claim you did it!
Enough Sravna..Enough!
Remember...this finding of the debris has NOTHING to do with your powers.
The question to ask yourself is...Why didnt you find it last year when I asked you?
Also you havent answered my question yet..."Where is the wreckage" Tell me right now without waiting for news reports and findings.
You can NOT give an answer cos you do NOT know.
You will only wait for news reports and the claim credit for it.
Arey Waah...Kya Spirituality Hain?
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No problem Renuka, I am definitely not consumed by arrogance nor am I insensitive. The coincidence of you asking me to use my powers to find the plane and the some important developments happening very soon after was very stark. All I did was to think that let the mystery of the plane be solved and if it gets solved somehow, even though not because of my powers, I would be glad.
I accept there are certain things I think I cannot do at least now but there are some things that are certainly possible. It is up to the individual to take it in whatever way he or she wants.
I accept there are certain things I think I cannot do at least now but there are some things that are certainly possible. It is up to the individual to take it in whatever way he or she wants.
Thank you...at least you have admitted that it has nothing got to do with your powers.
But last year too I asked you..that time there was no stark co incidence.
May be finally all the prayers of those related to the victims could have tugged the heart of God for an answer.
Sravna,
I agree with Renuka in that you missed your chance at properly conveying your "Spiritual" messages about MH370 debris.
The least you could have done is to have come out with the revelation that immediately after they found a wing flap you had the vision of the entire plane debris and exactly where it was in the bottom of the Indian Ocean or at least the principal components.
Where are those missing souls and whether they were communicating with you to tell their locations under the ocean. I think that is the kind of "Spiritual Power" we need to focus on.
Trying to drive physical forces through "Spiritual Powers" can be easily confused with magic and trickery.
Here in the US there are times when out of shear desperation even the police sometime resort to psychics to find a crime victim or where the body may be, or how a murder may have happened.
So Sravana, with deep regrets, you missed a golden opportunity to use your powers.
Anyway, they have only found a wing flap. But where did the plane go down, and where are all those missing souls buried in the bottom of the ocean? Can you at least pin point a location for searchers to explore?
The loving ones can go drop flowers at that location to respect and honor those beloved souls.
I agree with Renuka in that you missed your chance at properly conveying your "Spiritual" messages about MH370 debris.
The least you could have done is to have come out with the revelation that immediately after they found a wing flap you had the vision of the entire plane debris and exactly where it was in the bottom of the Indian Ocean or at least the principal components.
Where are those missing souls and whether they were communicating with you to tell their locations under the ocean. I think that is the kind of "Spiritual Power" we need to focus on.
Trying to drive physical forces through "Spiritual Powers" can be easily confused with magic and trickery.
Here in the US there are times when out of shear desperation even the police sometime resort to psychics to find a crime victim or where the body may be, or how a murder may have happened.
So Sravana, with deep regrets, you missed a golden opportunity to use your powers.
Anyway, they have only found a wing flap. But where did the plane go down, and where are all those missing souls buried in the bottom of the ocean? Can you at least pin point a location for searchers to explore?
The loving ones can go drop flowers at that location to respect and honor those beloved souls.
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Renuka, I am not sure about last year but what you said last month is on record in the "Countering terrorism ... " thread. I am only too glad for God answering the prayers.
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Dear Shri Sundar,
Frankly I do not have that information now . May be I might get that. Or I might not. But I have made statements about certain things with certainty. I am sure I can accomplish them unfailingly and every time. I am very much exploring spirituality and I constantly get intuitions and able to understand it better and better and I have admitted before that I have just begun.
Dear Sravna,
I need to apologize to you for my rather emotionally charged reply.
Let me explain why ...2 years ago we lost 2 planes in Msia..one MH 370 missing and MH 17 shot down..it was just one after another...day in and day out for months we had condolence messages on TV during commercial breaks....it was very depressing for the entire nation..day in day out hoping for closure.
Going tru this was not easy for the whole country..that is why seeing your reply I was carried away with some flash back of emotions 2 years back and hit out at you for claiming your spiritual powers helped find the debris.
I still strongly believe your spiritual powers had nothing to do with the debris finding and you should not claim credit for it but nevertheless I should have worded my post less emotionally.
For that I apologize to you.
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I need to apologize to you for my rather emotionally charged reply.
Let me explain why ...2 years ago we lost 2 planes in Msia..one MH 370 missing and MH 17 shot down..it was just one after another...day in and day out for months we had condolence messages on TV during commercial breaks....it was very depressing for the entire nation..day in day out hoping for closure.
Going tru this was not easy for the whole country..that is why seeing your reply I was carried away with some flash back of emotions 2 years back and hit out at you for claiming your spiritual powers helped find the debris.
I still strongly believe your spiritual powers had nothing to do with the debris finding and you should not claim credit for it but nevertheless I should have worded my post less emotionally.
For that I apologize to you.
regards
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No problem Renuka, no need to apologize, I do understand your emotions.
Thank you Sravna.
Sravana,
I hope Renuka is in on our experiment scheduled for this coming Sunday.
I am eagerly awaiting that with "Scientific Faith".
You should read Leon Lederman's Book: "The God Particle. If the Universe is the answer, then what is the question?".
A lot of what the quantum theory scientists are doing has much in parallel to our first experiment this Sun.
We just don't have any equations like the quantum theorists do.
They have clearly said that quarks cannot be seen or as yet identified, but they are there. That's Scientific Faith.
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Dear Shri Sundar,
Yes ,science is driven by faith too. Faith is necessary to pursue something passionately though in the case of science corroboration is also eventually required.
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