Really? As far as I know, the Sanskrit language doesn't allow itself to any effective "brute search" method in Sanskrit texts. I might be wrong. Anyway the point is that, there are many instances where, not only the word Mooda, but a host of similar words are used by Sankara appropriately - and anyone who has been regularly perusing Sankara Bhashyam will be able to recognize that fact.You did some brute search and showed some sentences.
LOL. The first sentence is so very true in the light of your obnoxious behavious throughout.++++One has to understand and must be in search for truth to hold a reasonable and intelligent conversation. I have scaled back my expectations long ago (about 6 months ago after seeing your responses in the Chit chat thread
Once you revealed your profound ignorance of even fundamental terms like "staged evolution", which you are going to search in google first, what meaningful discussion is really possible with you?I asked what this term means 6 months ago in the chit chat thread
and that I came across only your websites after some search
Again silliness. Bhashyas are not to be literally read. That again shows a naive view of the topics. Here people are not always Sanskrit scholars and neither are you though you want to pass off one by copying some text here and there, In reality you and I are at the same level. You and I are ignorant, only you claim to not know that by hiding behind some words. Scholars are at ease explaining. In fact the measure if scholarship is directly proportional to how they can explain to almost anyone.They were directly taken from the Sankara Bhashyas, as anyone remotely familiar with Sanskrit, will understand. Do you realize that, by saying "they do not count" you are insulting the readers of the forum who know Sanskrit?
Indeed! But where is your response to the above item except that "it doesnt count"?
And what is this "illogical statement from me" that you make such a show of challenging? Quote my exact words and the post number.
You are trivializing great works, It is not about usage of some word. You have to know the deep meaning and not view such things literally. That leads to shallowness. What makes you play all these games?? No one is impressed but if you explain well people appreciate. I came across one Swami Sarvapriyananda online. He is from Ramakrishana Mutt and young Sannyasi. He is so eloquent and makes compelex topic seem simple. That is scholarshipReally? As far as I know, the Sanskrit language doesn't allow itself to any effective "brute search" method in Sanskrit texts. I might be wrong. Anyway the point is that, there are many instances where, not only the word Mooda, but a host of similar words are used by Sankara appropriately - and anyone who has been regularly perusing Sankara Bhashyam will be able to recognize that fact.
And as I mentioned earlier, I remember reading Sankara referring to the Buddha as a "mad man". In this forum there are others who have read Sankara's works in Sanskrit. If I am wrong, let them correct me.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Let me share a secret. A confused person cannot teach anything to anyone. You are not a teacher or a student based on what you have posted. You have remained a bag of bones with some buzz words. A real learning will start when you admit ignoranceLOL. The first sentence is so very true in the light of your obnoxious behavious throughout.
Once you revealed your profound ignorance of even fundamental terms like "staged evolution", which you are going to search in google first, what meaningful discussion is really possible with you?
If your attitude was good, I could have assumed a teaching position and shared the info.....
But to add to that ignorance an arrogant and obnoxious attitude to complete the picture..
Yeah 6 months ago I had resolved never to share any more information with you, in the light of the admonition in scriptures against people like you.
LOL I do randomly post in 2, 3 blogs. I never recommended my blogs anywhere - I always said that these things should be learnt from a Guru, so if you are cribbing about the blogs, you have yourself to blame
First of all if you want to know the correct meaning of Mooda you can read the entirety of the Bhajagovindam thread except your posts.Really? I have given three citations. The words like Mooda, manda etc are commonly used in an impolite sense only. But here is the challenge for you. Engage yourself in exploring the context of each quote, and prove that in each context, they are used in a different meaning, different from the derogatory sense originally attributed to the word Mooda by sri tks. Here is an open challenge for you.
If you are not man enough to take up this challenge and prove your words true, then admit that the words are indeed used in the derogatory sense and shut up.
Well this thread was opened and addressed to sri tks, who must be able to make sense of the screenshots of pages in Sanskrit. I was wondering about his total silence. In his absence, this interaction with a-TB has only entertainment value.
Hello Mr a-TB,All I ask you is : You produced two statements where the word Mooda was used. Please explain the topic discussed and your understanding and how Mooda is a name calling. It is your own post. I know you cannot take this challenge because you are clueless. In fact true progress happens when we admit our ignorance in such matters
LOL.Bhashyas are not to be literally read.
A child with a basic schooling of Sanskrit language can figure out the meaning of the passage quoted by me. That's one more reason for the greatness of Sankara - he used the simplest language (Sanskrit can be an incredibly complex language in the hands of some) to explain his ideas.Here people are not always Sanskrit scholars and neither are you though you want to pass off one by copying some text here and there
This thread was opened solely to discuss the concept of "staged evolution", which is an extremely important topic.You are trivializing great works, It is not about usage of some word. You have to know the deep meaning and not view such things literally. That leads to shallowness.
Indeed this is a query I wanted to ask you for many days. Either you are incredibly stupid, or extremely spiteful of me, to keep on telling lies, making baseless allegations against me.What makes you play all these games??
The way to refute a citation that "Sankara did use a word in some place in some work" is to show that the word is NOT used in that place in that work. Instead of blindly repeating some nonsense, show me where this refutation is done for the 3 quotes I gave.First of all if you want to know the correct meaning of Mooda you can read the entirety of the Bhajagovindam thread except your posts.
Your citation was refuted.
But there is no one to discuss with. I had opened this thread expecting to see a response from Sri tks but there was none till now. And from you there is only lies, misinterpretations and insults!If you think you really made a point please engage in content oriented discussions. Make your case.
But where is the debate? Do you seriously call your behaviour as debate? In a debate opposing views need to be presented. Where are your points? What is your take on "staged evolution"?Let you stay the way you are and I accept you fully as you are. Let me stop debating with you.
LOL. I didn't know you have a way of seeing what goes on in another's mind. In that thread a few others have posted too, like madame renuka. I didn't see Sri tks engaging anyone in a discussion. He has clearly expressed that his purpose in opening the thread was to just update his thoughts in it - and that was what he was doing too, blog like.I should have taken a cue from Mr tks who intuitively knew not to get engaged with you.
The bubble is only in your own dreams or hallucinations.Sorry to burst your bubble. Let me share a secret. A confused person cannot teach anything to anyone. You are not a teacher or a student based on what you have posted. You have remained a bag of bones with some buzz words. A real learning will start when you admit ignorance
I never sought your opinion nor care about it. Instead of replying to my queries, you have been sidetracking to irrelevant matters.I only pointed out that online you find mostly utter nonsense. I just had curiosity and affirmed my view of your writing
Your messages thus far is but an example of how a frog in a well thinks. You are stuck in words without knowing the meaning, purport and how a word applies in the overall message. That requires understanding and ability to refute expanding on what you have stated. You may have coped from some book without comprehending and hence are unable to engage in content oriented dialog. Just so that you dont escape making claims and trying to see if you can be drawn into a content oriented discussion instead of spewing wasted words and insults here is one last attempt.Hello Mr a-TB,
For the umpteenth time, let me inform you that it was the expressed understanding of sri tks, not mine, in the Bhaja Govindam thread, that the word Mooda is name-calling, and hence,in HIS understanding Sankara would have never used it in his works . You are twisting even the simplest facts and despite your cluelessness, or perhaps due to it, continue to make meaningless statements despite them having been refuted repeatedly here. In response to Sri tks, all that I had to do was to provide instances directly taken from Sankara, to the contrary.
Now, as a self appointed machan of the absent sri tks, If you think that, in the context of these quotes I provided, the word Mooda means something different from the understanding expressed by Sri tks that it is a denigratory word, as is commonly accepted too , then the onus is on YOU, Mr a-TB to prove it here. I have explained it in the simplest English, but instead of taking up the challenge you are running away.
OK, self proclaimed Sanskrit Scholar. Translate the passage below and provide the meaningLOL.
Bhashyas have to be first read . You have revealed your "knowledge" by saying that the quotes do not count since they were in Sanskrit language. But I have expressly addressed them to Sri tks who, as the writer on Bhaja Govindam etc, must be aware of the Sanskrit. By jumping into this matter with your silly statements, lies and other obnoxious behaviour you have only made a laughing stock of yourself.
A child with a basic schooling of Sanskrit language can figure out the meaning of the passage quoted by me. That's one more reason for the greatness of Sankara - he used the simplest language (Sanskrit can be an incredibly complex language in the hands of some) to explain his ideas.
But given the level of intelligence you have displayed here, I am not surprised by your statement above. Anything that anybody posts here in the Sanskrit language would seem to you like "passing off as a Sanskrit scholar", whereas my motive in posting the original Sanskrit was just to assist Sri tks in locating them easily in the works, and thus satisfy himself that what I have claimed earlier on the concept of "staged evolution" was indeed true, and directly from Sankara.
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