Sowbagyavathy Happyhindu, Greetings.
It is very nice to see your clearing about your message (in post #79). Most messages in this forum are quite powerful. When compelling evidences are produced, the messages in this forum do have a strong effect on the readers. Although I could be wrong ( Now that you are coming out to make your message more clearer, I am wrong in interperting your message), I objected to my interpretation of the message #79. Now that you have cleared about the post #79, a comforting message to you and regretting my interpretation from me is in order.
I am with you when you say 'every Hindu child desrves Upanayanam if that child wishes it'. Not all the brahmin children enrolled in Vedapadasala is rearing to study Vedas; often times those children are driven to that enrolment due to poverty. At the same time, there would be so many NB children willing to take up Upanayanam and lead a pious life; denying their wish is ciriminal, in my opinion. If Sowbagyavathy Happyhindu draws a parallel between the NB children deinied vadapadasala entry and the B children denied Government run secular education institutions, I am with her.
I lament on a different plane altother though. I hate see any person gets viewed differently based on caste. But the discrimination is woven in the socity fabric. People don't even know sometimes they are dicriminating when they follow 'the usual socity norms'. It is really sad. I have examples in own home. But after a bit of education, such situations do improve. I am not aggreable to one community made to carry the burdon of the past deeds of persons long dead, while most of the present community does not carry on with such deeds. Also through personal interactions, I found out that some of the NBs who hate Bs do not even know why they hate the Bs of present generation. That's why I am a bit touchy if I think I see hatred or traces of justifying to hatred against any community or any person.
Cheers!
Raghy Sir,
Thanks for the lovely post. Am releived to see us both coming to common grounds to clarify.
Sir, in the Discrimination thread i went overboard. I realised that, and therefore requested praveen to delete some posts, although i wish i could edit out portions of my remaining posts too.
But when it came to this thread and saw the hatered point made by Mrs.VR, i gave it considerable thot. I would like to assure you i never once thot about reservations or about justifying hatered or any such thing while writing out that post.
My post was an earnest plea, a plea for acceptance. To make Mrs.VR see that no one is hated, instead people seek acceptance. Mrs.VR responded beautifully, and i loved her replies. She brought out her real self, a lady of love, beauty and acceptance.
Raghy sir, in this day and time it will be very hard to find any brahmin practicing casteism, except for a miniscule orthodoxy. A good many NBs are however, still stuck in a tribal past, continue with casteism and even violence. What everyone is grappling with is a socio-religious issue in which everyone has varying views.
Sir, am far too aware that ALL sections of soceity were involved in violence right from tribal days. I definitely agree no one needs to carry any burden of the past. Which is why i wrote a new day can be created any day.
If we think of exclusivity, then acceptance cannot come. I am very glad that we agree on allowing upanayanams for everyone, first as kshatriyas and vaishyas, and if a child does well, then allow him to study further to become a brahman. It is my personal view that this will prevent NBs from involving in casteism; and will pave a path, to allow them to become a brahman on basis of intellectual merit. I sincerely hope hindutva people propagate this.
Thankyou.
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