Politics of Conversion

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In the above video, Robert Rosario, a christian is tearing apart and unmasking the hidden agenda of dravidian movement. He says the dravidian movement was started as an anti-brahmin movement. Conversions are made with the sole intent and purpose of making politics out of it. He says it is the church behind dravidian movement, the hypocrisy of dravidian movements and dravidian parties, their hidden agenda.

 

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[கால பைரவன்]

GS Sir,

I don't think the "church" or the "christians" are the architects of anti-brahmin movement or dravidianism in tamil nadu. The dravidians comprising of vellalas, chettiars, mudaliars, naickers etc who successfully sold brahmin hatred to the masses come under the hindu umbrella only. It may be true that christians as a community/vote-bank may have supported the dravidian parties politically so as to secure the welfare of their own community. In a state and country where practice of identity politics is the main form of politics, every group aligns with one side or the other. But blaming christians for hatred against brahmins is a red-herring!

 

[gvmahesh]

GS Sir,

I don't think the "church" or the "christians" are the architects of anti-brahmin movement or dravidianism in tamil nadu. The dravidians comprising of vellalas, chettiars, mudaliars, naickers etc who successfully sold brahmin hatred to the masses come under the hindu umbrella only. It may be true that christians as a community/vote-bank may have supported the dravidian parties politically so as to secure the welfare of their own community. In a state and country where practice of identity politics is the main form of politics, every group aligns with one side or the other. But blaming christians for hatred against brahmins is a red-herring!

Please see the social media posts related to Hindu religious matters and the comments by Non Hindus in those posts. You will be shocked to see how much hatred they carry against Hindus in general and Brahmins, in particular.

Traditionally Brahmins have been the guide to Hindus in religious matters in general though every caste follows its own way of adhering to Hinduism. Therefore, Abrahamic religions want to spread hatred against Brahmins through as section of the Hindus themselves to alienate Brahmins from rest of the Hindus so that their agenda of conversion becomes easy. Hope, you remember the story of four bulls and a lion. Missionaries want to follow the same logic to create animosity between different groups of Hindus and achieve their goal.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

GVMahesh Sir,

Even if one considers social media as the yardstick, highest degree of hatred against brahmins both in terms of volume and crassness is expressed by tamil dravidians only. This can be realised only if one can read, understand tamil and interact with dravidian circles. In TN, dravidians portray everything as a struggle between themselves and brahmins. According to them, NEET is imposed by brahmins; GST is imposed by brahmins; NTk and Vijay/TVK are propped up by brahmins not withstanding the fact that these parties indulge in anti-brahmin innuendo as well. According to them, all dravidian castes deserve reservation because all of them were/are "Shudras". But those dravidians who oppress Dalits become brahmanical etc etc Everything is framed as dravidians vs brahmins. The beneficiaries of this interpretive framework is largely dravidians and dravidian political parties. Yes, church may align with them but the dravidians are the main player here. The anti-brahmin politics practiced by dravidians is the closest any group has come to anti-semitic politics practiced by Nazis. Same tools of propaganda, similar caricatures against brahmins, innuendoes against Brahmin women etc etc

Why do you think of all the states only TN (Even kerala implements; not sure about karnataka) doesn't implement EWS reservation? Because that could potentially benefit a very small number of brahmins and that is ano-no for dravidians.

Situation could be different in other states. But as far as TN is concerned, the origin of hatred and continuance of hatred against brahmins is mainly and largely from dravidians - and they are not Christians.

 

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[vgane]

The anti brahmin hatred was started by the upper caste non brahmin Hindus but Christians and Muslims are enjoying the benefits. Telugu communities are getting benefited due to the CM's family and so support the Dravidian movement. As Christians get benefited due to conversion and increase in population they too support the anti brahmin politics.

 

[GNANA SUNYAM]

The anti brahmin hatred was started by the upper caste non brahmin Hindus but Christians and Muslims are enjoying the benefits. Telugu communities are getting benefited due to the CM's family and so support the Dravidian movement. As Christians get benefited due to conversion and increase in population they too support the anti brahmin politics.

To the best of my knowledge brahmin-hatred is prevalent only in TN especially after some vengayam started DK capitalizing on the sentimental weakness, emotional weakness, naivete, ignorance, gullibility, vulnerability and narrow mindedness of tamilians. they just fell flat for the term 'dravidian' irrationally, giving hardly any thought on its veracity, validity. vengayam gained political mileage following the anti-brahmin wave generated by stirring up the non-existent illusory 'dravidan' sentiment.

Do you want to become cm in TN? Very easy. Just start a party and go around shouting 'paappan ozhiga'. Next day they will make you TN CM.

 

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Social discrimination practised by Naicker - the community of EVR

As you can see this is from Times Of India, one of the most reputed newspapers. Considering that this is being done by the Naicker community near Erode, it is quite possible that some of them could even belong to the extended family of EVR Naicker - the Champion for the Socially Oppressed. This was happening during the time of EVR and is happening even today.
I am posting this comment as there is mention of DK and Vengayam (moniker for EVR Naicker) and anti Brahminism in Tamilnadu in some of the posts in this thread, though it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread i.e. politics of conversion.