Naga Sadhus at Kumbhamela, Prayag

[london swaminathan]

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.கவிதை நன்று. நன்றி. சிறு வயதில் என்னை எண்ணை தேய்த்குளிக்கச் சொல்லி என் அம்மா " மல்லாடி" நின்றாள். இன்று ஒரு " வாயாடி"ப் பெண்ணுடன் பேசிக்கொண்டிருந்தேன். இன்னும் பத்து ஆண்டுகளில் உங்கள் " பல்லா"டிப் போய்விடும், பிறகு உங்கள் " சொல்லாடி" விடும் என்றாள். இதற்கு மேல் எழுதினால் ஏதோ பொருளற்ற எதுகை மோனை உடைய திராவிட முன்னேற்றக் கழகப் பேச்சாளரின் பேச்சைக் கேட்டது போல உப்பு சப்பில்லாமல் போய்விடும். மதுரை வடக்கு மாசி வீதி --மேல மாசி வீதி சந்திப்பில் கேட்ட் நூற்றுக் கணக்கான கூட்டங்கள் நினைவுக்கு வந்து விடும்.

 

[Raji Ram]

hi
the third poonal is for uthareeyam.....means mel veshti.....

Still confused! BrahmachAri can go without mEl vEshti. But a married man has to have it.

Does it mean that during wedding itself the third poonul is worn? Or does it mean that if three poonuls are worn,

there is no need for mEl vEshti? I remember that Ram had his third poonal only when our son was born.

 

[Raji Ram]

மல்லாடி நின்றவர்!

சொல்லாடி மகிழ நெஞ்சம்
அல்லாடி இருந்ததால், தன்

பல்லாடிப் போன வயதில்,
தள்ளாடி வந்த முதியவர்,

கில்லாடிச் சிறுமி எதிர் வர,
சொல்லாடி மகிழ விரும்பி,

தள்ளாடி அருகில் சென்று,
மல்லாடி நின்றார், பேசிட!


:blah:

 

[vgane]

The three sacred thread sets are worn as under:
1. First set at the time of Upanayanam (Initiation into Brahmachari)
2. Second set at the time of marriage (Initiation into Grihastha)
3. Third set on demise of father
This is my understanding

 

[london swaminathan]

A lot of things have been posted about three threads. What is the authority? Where is it in our scriptures?
Some Vedic Pundits or Ganapadis or Shastris should know.

Anna's books published by RK Mutt explain lot of things about Sandhya Vandhana, Upanayanam etc..
But I dont know whether he mentions anything about how many Punuls one should wear and why?

 

[sangom]

Still confused! BrahmachAri can go without mEl vEshti. But a married man has to have it.

Does it mean that during wedding itself the third poonul is worn? Or does it mean that if three poonuls are worn,

there is no need for mEl vEshti? I remember that Ram had his third poonal only when our son was born.

AFAI have learnt, a brahmachari has one poonal and this shows he is a dvija. After marriage only he has the authority to perform any vedic "yajna" and an upaveetham or mElvEshTi is a must for any of the priests performing any yajna. This is found in most Srauta Sutras. Hence we tabras have invented a shortcut by wearing an additional set of three threads. Thus it is the second set (can anyone identify which?) which is the real "yajnopaveetham", the first being "brahmopaveetham" so to say. The third set is to be worn after the birth of a son, but nowadays it is worn even during the seemantham ceremony, irrespective of the gender outcome. This third set signifies a man who is protected from the eventual hell called "puth" which is the fate of even the most devout brahmin if he does not have a son to cremate and perform his Shraaddha. These are the "sanatana" beliefs but may not be followed by/ and may be argued out (for the sake of convenience) by some of the strictly conservative members over here who often raise the hullabaloo about BB.

According to some grihyasutras a brahmana without son is unfit for being fed in the Shraaddha ceremony, I think.

 

[tbs]

Still confused! BrahmachAri can go without mEl vEshti. But a married man has to have it.

Does it mean that during wedding itself the third poonul is worn? Or does it mean that if three poonuls are worn,

there is no need for mEl vEshti? I remember that Ram had his third poonal only when our son was born.

hi RR madam,
these things already discussed in previous threads......in this forum...just search poonal...you may get it...

 

[Raji Ram]

...... Thus it is the second set (can anyone identify which?) which is the real "yajnopaveetham", the first being "brahmopaveetham" so to say. The third set is to be worn after the birth of a son, but nowadays it is worn even during the seemantham ceremony, irrespective of the gender outcome. ..........

Thank you Sangom Sir for the clarification.