MIssion statement and objective of starting this website.

[gopaindu]

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Dear Moderator,
I am not sure whether you have a role in the administration/governance of the website. Even if you do not have a role in governance, I do not know to whom I should write and so expressing my views through you.
1. What is the mission of starting of the website Tamil Brahmins.com? To explain the word mission which is a management jargon, I learnt while doing MBA in my forties, if one wants to know the mission of opening a new TV Channel, the mission behind would be either Entertain-ment/Spread of Information.
2. What is the objective behind starting this website? To cite the example above, the objective would be to reach the maximum number of people.
3. What was the goal of starting this website? To explain with the same example how one is going to achieve the objective. In other words, goal could be 10,000 in the first year, 30,000 in the second year and so on.
4. What is the purpose of starting a general forum? Is it to share information on the culture of brahmins or to analyse the history of brahminism? The reason for raising the above questions is that in the General foum, discussions take place as to who is a brahmin, why brahmins discriminate non brahmins in the matter of doing pooja in the temples, inter caste marriage, inter religion marriage, life is like that, daily dose of information, etc. I feel that we are going away from the objective of starting this forum. In my opinion, this forum should be used only to discuss our accepted traditons, the logic behind the traditions, their relevance/modification in the present day world, etc. I hope the objective of starting this website is to educate the existing generation spreading over the last three or four decades about the practices prevalent in Brahminical society and inculcate the values of brahminism among the youth. Therefore, I would request you to reconstitute the forum/fora in this website and intimate the purpose of the forum/fora. If the very faiths and beliefs of Hinduism especially brahminism are to be questioned or the history of the faiths/beliefs are to be analysed and conclude that most of them are rubbish/jibberish(I do not know the meaning of the word jibberish), then the website needs to be rechristened as analysis of Hinduism or simply Hinduism instead of the present name. raja48

 

[renuka]

Dear Gopa ji,

Just a question..why do you use the word Brahminism? Is there really something called Brahminism?
Isnt it only Sanathana Dharma a.k.a Hinduism and Brahmins being one of the inhabitants of the Varnaashrama as you correctly pointed out in your post in the Misconception of the Varnaashrama Dharma?

Dear Sir..your request is going to be A Mission Impossible.

http://youtu.be/XAYhNHhxN0A

 

[sravna]

Dear Shri Gopaindu,

I agree with you when you say that our tradition needs to be protected . But I differ with you in the means of achieving that objective. I think something becomes robust only when it is exposed to attacks and comes out of it unharmed. It is just like our mind being exposed to good and bad and learning from both the types of experiences. Just like a strong mind which gets tempered with sufferings, a culture that is strong cannot be diminished and will only prove its inherent strength, by any assault on it and becomes more attractive.

 

[praveen]

This has been discussed quite a few times in various other threads. Please use the search functionality for the answers.

As to the general discussions and sensitiveness of the topics being discussed, there will be change made very shortly which will address them. There are specific forums which deal with specific topics. General discussions is more like a lounge where all discussions pertainining to our way of life is allowed.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Statistics will prove whether or not the Daily Dose of Interesting

information is useful to the readers or (as suggested by this man)

a total waste of time.

People have enough sense not to waste their precious time in useless

threads.. so those threads die a natural death and become a nine day

wonder or end up with even with less life span!

So do not worry unnecessarily for the sake of the forum!

If Masakkai can figure in the General Discussion of this Forum (!)

so too many fascinating facts from science, maths, arts, zoology, biology

botany and literature.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

TO

Gopaindu alias raja48 alias...

Tamilbrahmins. com is doing quite well as it is-despite your suggestions

for improvement!.

It has a five digit membership, a good reputation and participation.

If you care so much about DISCUSSING only issues related to brahmins

WHY DON' T you start a new forum with your like-minded friends?

Let us see the membership/activities/ and other factors of your forum .

I for one am very eager to know the outcome if it ever happens!

Life is like that discusses about all kinds of people good, bad and ugly.

Haven't you forgotten the names of my other two threads-

Points to ponder and Did you know that?

When the super specialists settle for mundane topics :couch2:

housewives like me HAVE to take up the other serious matters at hand!

 

[kunjuppu]

TO

Gopaindu alias raja48 alias...

Tamilbrahmins. com is doing quite well as it is-despite your suggestions

for improvement!.

It has a five digit membership, a good reputation and participation.

If you care so much about DISCUSSING only issues related to brahmins

WHY DON' T you start a new forum with your like-minded friends?

Let us see the membership/activities/ and other factors of your forum .

I for one am very eager to know the outcome if it ever happens!

Life is like that discusses about all kinds of people good, bad and ugly.

Haven't you forgotten the names of my other two threads-

Points to ponder and Did you know that?

When the super specialists settle for mundane topics :couch2:

housewives like me HAVE to take up the other serious matters at hand!

visa,

masakkai is a very important subject

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Considering the percentage population of the female readers of this forum;

and the percentage of those women in THEIR fertility period;

and the percentage of those women who are actually pregnant;

and the percentage of them who actually suffer some symptoms of masakkai

IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE DESERVING A SPOT

IN THE GENERAL DISCUSSIONS of this Forum.

HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

 

[gopaindu]

Dear Members(Ref: Posts 2to7-Mission statement)
Truth is that after posting this thread, I happened to read the open letter to all by Mr. Praveen. In fact, I wanted to modiffy it. But I could not search for the same. Brahminism, I mean beliefs, faith, notions held by Brahminis and also their value system which is totally forgotten or not being followed today. Whenever I say Brahmin, I mean only people who follow the practices of erstwhile real brahmins irrespective of the familles of castes/religions in which they are born. Even now, there may be people who would like to know and practise them and have no resources i.e.the right books, etc. Any organisation should have a mission without which it can not have direction. The most intriguing point is that why this website was called Tamil Brahmins.com and not Hindus.com or Sanathana Dharma.com. Hence, I presumed that the website is for dissemination of knowledge about Brahminism i.e. practices followed by Brahmins. Somehow, I failed to see other spheres for a website i.e. it should be having general information other than the one I presumed. Of course, this is due to ignorance on my part about the purpose of a website i.e. bringing people together. Notwithstanding, why the topics like intercaste/ inter religion marriages, discrimination of other castes by brahmins,etc. which are deragotary and hurt the feelings of the brahmins/ those believe they are brahmins should be discussed in a forum like this. That is why I suggested to rechristen the site as Hinduism.com or Sanathana Dharma.com. In my opinion, by allowing such topics, the objective of the forum is overlooked. Life is like that,points to ponder,thought for today, etc. are no doubt informative and giving a chance to post for those who are not conversant with the mundane topics. The members of the forum has no doubt swelled to more than 15,000. The people manning the website may be lost but not the website because this is like an organisation and it should grow continuously even for centurries. It will not be out of place to add that initially some of the dot coms did well but due to lack of foresight or a direction, they are no more now. My only anxiety is that this website should not meet the same fate. Without offence to Mr.Praveen, he being in charge could have answered my questions directly or could have directed me to a link where the answers to my questions could be found. Instead, he has asked me to use search functionality for answers. From my experience, I could not use the search even to locate my posting of new thread. The fault could be on my part as not to have learnt as to how to use search engines . Last but not the least I wish that the website live a very very long time and also be useful to the real seekers of knowldege about brahminism. raja48

 

[gopaindu]

Dear Sravan,(Ref: Post No.3- Mission),
The common reply posting at the end of 7 postings is on general issues. This one is a specific to your posting. In my view, the objective of the website is to preserve the tradition and not to analyse them in the preent day context by taking the opposite side just for the sake of opposing. Most of the people fail to think/contemplate as to why a particularr practice was adopted and what was the situation prevailing then and whether relevant to the present day context and if not relevant, what modifcations are required in the practice,etc. but read some books which support their arguments and just quote them to conclude that the practice is not valid for the present day context or jibberish. raja48.

 

[Raghy]

Dear Sri.Raja Sir, Greetings.

Truth is that after posting this thread, I happened to read the open letter to all by Mr. Praveen. In fact, I wanted to modiffy it.

Sir, that open letter to all was written to address a specific situation. We can't modify messages written by others.

Brahminism, I mean beliefs, faith, notions held by Brahminis and also their value system which is totally forgotten or not being followed today. Whenever I say Brahmin, I mean only people who follow the practices of erstwhile real brahmins irrespective of the familles of castes/religions in which they are born.

Brahmin culture consists of various practices and habits like cuisine, dress, marriage and other customs etc. Brahminism is a word coined for political purposes, which denotes discriminatory practices and superiority feelings; Most common brahmin is moving away from 'brahminism', lot of high caste hindus are practicising brahminism now. That's why, Sowbagyavathy Renuka wondered about your using the word 'brahminism'. Brahmin culture is discussed in detail in this forum. Brahmin culture may be followed by persons from other caste too; but, essentially the discussions are centered on such customs in brahmin families.

The most intriguing point is that why this website was called Tamil Brahmins.com and not Hindus.com or Sanathana Dharma.com. Hence, I presumed that the website is for dissemination of knowledge about Brahminism i.e. practices followed by Brahmins.

This web site was started by Sri.Praveen mainly to provide a platform for people from brahmin community to discuss their customs, issues, solutions etc. The membership is flexible for everyone to take part. There are many non-brahmins, quite possibly non-hindus make up the membership. Sri.Praveen happens to be a Tamizh Brahmin; hence tamilbrahmins.com.

why the topics like intercaste/ inter religion marriages, discrimination of other castes by brahmins,etc. which are deragotary and hurt the feelings of the brahmins/ those believe they are brahmins should be discussed in a forum like this. That is why I suggested to rechristen the site as Hinduism.com or Sanathana Dharma.com. In my opinion, by allowing such topics, the objective of the forum is overlooked.

Inter-caste marriages are realities. Some of the dedicated contributors in this forum have connection to inter-caste marriages in their own families (Two of my nieces married inter-caste). It is not a bad idea to get some information about handling such situations. Brahmins are also guilty of discriminating lower caste persons; by going through our mistakes in the past, our younger generation is likely to improve in their inter-actions. Also, they would not be taken by surprise with cock-and-bull stories by brahmin-haters. Well informed has its advantages. I don't think such discussions would hurt any brahmin's feelings.

About your suggestion to change the name of the forum, only Sri.Praveen is the right person to respond, since he is the site owner.

Without offence to Mr.Praveen, he being in charge could have answered my questions directly or could have directed me to a link where the answers to my questions could be found. Instead, he has asked me to use search functionality for answers.

I am sure, Sri.Praveen will get back to you with more detailed informations when he can find the time.

Last but not the least I wish that the website live a very very long time and also be useful to the real seekers of knowldege about brahminism.

Thank you very much, sir.

This site happens to have information for everyone. If you need to get information in a particular interest, you could seek such information by opening a thread. This is a dynamic forum, discussing various interests.

Cheers!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

To everyone writing in the forum.

PLEASE post your LOOOONG messages split into in small paragraphs.

If you can give double spacing between the lines, it will be even better.

Surely you must have heard the word called punctuation!

Why do you punish people both visually and verbally? :noidea:

 

[praveen]

My replies in below.

1. What is the mission of starting of the website Tamil Brahmins.com? To explain the word mission which is a management jargon, I learnt while doing MBA in my forties, if one wants to know the mission of opening a new TV Channel, the mission behind would be either Entertain-ment/Spread of Information.

The primary mission is to provide a platform where people from our community (and others) can come together to discuss, find ways and evolve with time. The other primary goal is make this place a ultimate resource for all things related to our tradition, culture and lifestyle.

As Raghyji pointed out, i am from Chennai and a Tamil Brahmin. So at the time of starting this website, tamilbrahmins.com was the logical choice. To be honest, i did not know much about the brahmin community. Even though i was born and brought in a traditional brahmin family, i chose not to follow it and hence while searching for one in England, i could not find any (i was living in england when the site was started, but now back in chennai). Hence this place with tamilbrahmins.com

Over time the topics and member base increased so much that it was even debated that tamilbrahmins.com be changed to brahminsworld.com. But with the kind of popularity this site has achieved, it was decided to keep tamilbrahmins.com intact without re-branding the site.

2. What is the objective behind starting this website? To cite the example above, the objective would be to reach the maximum number of people.

Simply, i do not know much about the community. Likewise there could lots and lots more young people. So this is in a way to bridge the gap and provide resources using which members (young and old/brahmins and non brahmins) can appreciate, understand us.

3. What was the goal of starting this website? To explain with the same example how one is going to achieve the objective. In other words, goal could be 10,000 in the first year, 30,000 in the second year and so on.

There is no quantifiable goal as such. Ideally i would like to reach out everyone possible.

4. What is the purpose of starting a general forum?

It is have a place where things that do not fit under any of the other sections can be discussed. You can think this as a coffee lounge where people can discuss anything and everything under the sun

In my opinion, this forum should be used only to discuss our accepted traditons, the logic behind the traditions, their relevance/modification in the present day world, etc.

In a way, members of this current generation do not accept things without questioning. And at the same time, most of us also do not know why we do certain things in a very specific way. So by by limiting ourselves to discuss "only" our accepted traditions will curtail our thought process and might not be "enough" to convince ppl.

We have the kings for centuries and centuries, but we r nowhere near the palace. In my opinion, that is primarily because we have always been a closed community where out of the box thinking was not allowed and we followed only our accepted traditions. I am not saying its bad, but in the current context, we need to start exploring from within and question most things to re-establish ourselves.

 

[Yamaka]

"We have the kings for centuries and centuries, but we r nowhere near the palace. In my opinion, that is primarily because we have always been a closed community where out of the box thinking was not allowed and we followed only our accepted traditions."

Wow Praveen:

Do you want to be the King in the Palace? Or a King Maker?

I thought Brahmins have been King Makers for a long long time!

Cheers.

Regards

Y

 

[praveen]

I thought Brahmins have been King Makers for a long long time!

We had been, but not anymore.... If you still think we are, then you are still in a dream. Wake up . Maybe in some small sections of the society we might be, but we are being outrun by others and sadly we do not see it coming.

Do you want to be the King in the Palace? Or a King Maker?

At this point, i prefer not to answer this.

 

[Yamaka]

"We had been, but not anymore.... If you still think we are, then you are still in a dream. Wake up . Maybe in some small sections of the society we might be, but we are being outrun by others and sadly we do not see it coming."- Praveen wrote.

Then how will you reconcile with the fact that at least some TB families feel elated and gratified to see J Jaya as the CM for the Third Time in TN... for them "she is our Brahmin girl from Srirangam"?

May be "The Paradise Regained"!!! Lol

 

[praveen]

"We had been, but not anymore.... If you still think we are, then you are still in a dream. Wake up . Maybe in some small sections of the society we might be, but we are being outrun by others and sadly we do not see it coming."- Praveen wrote.

Then how will you reconcile with the fact that at least some TB families feel elated and gratified to see J Jaya as the CM for the Third Time in TN... for them "she is our Brahmin girl from Srirangam"?

May be "The Paradise Regained"!!! Lol

This is my personal opinion and does not have anything to do with this website.

So, if JJ becomes CM do you think that she is going to elevate TB once again to their former glory???? To think that would be happen is like waiting for the sun to rise in the north. There might be a few changes here and there but beyond anything miniscule you cannot be so dependent on her.

So 5 yrs brahmins would reign supreme and the next 5 they will treated as beggars!!!..

Hoping for something good now that JJ is the CM is not bad. but expecting something to happen for the community as a whole is downright foolishness. Maybe one family/one town/one village might benefit but overall upliftment of the community is never going to happen if the govt has to do something.

This govt cannot and will not be able to give preferential treatment to one community. If it does, the next govt will come and squash it.

Karunanidhi or DMK alone is not at fault for the current state. We let ourselves into this sh** and we have to blame ourselves for it. yes the govt did things, but we allowed them do it because of our policies/stance and rigidness in the way that we forced ourselves to stick to age old traditions and not letting ourselves evolve with time and be "modern" while still practising the accepted ways.

those who have accepted/changed are a minority and will remain a minority until the masses help themselves.

You and me can help 10 people, but we cannot help 10000 people. The 10 people we help should help another 10 and so on and so on and so on.

Unfortunately out of the 10 that we help, only 1 comes forward to take it forward. The remaining 9 are ok with receiving the help but not ok with extending it to the others.

 

[renuka]

Dear all,
since right now this is thread is the "active one" i put this here..dont miss it really funny..have a break..

YouTube - ‪the punjabi Royal Wedding‬‏

 

[Nacchinarkiniyan]

I do not think it is correct to draw a comparison of this forum with other religious forums. Many of the topics here would have never been allowed in those forums. Even regarding Hinduism they tend to take a narrow view. Their Hinduism does not include worship of Raja Karupppanna swami or the Upasana of Bagalamukhi to quote a couple of examples.

Posts against Varnashrama Dharma would never be allowed.

Here in this forum we have questioned our existing beliefs and traditions and also explored ways of improving the lot of the Brahmin community.

Laissez-faire has been the policy of this forum.

I am thankful to Praveen for that.

 

[Brahin]

Dear all,
since right now this is thread is the "active one" i put this here..dont miss it really funny..have a break..

YouTube - ‪the punjabi Royal Wedding‬‏

Renu..Video is too good..

Thanks Sweets

 

[renuka]

Renu..Video is too good..

Thanks Sweets

Brahin ..Yo dude..no problems..