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[renuka]

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renukaji

by your own admission , God micro manages our lives which means God is the reason for these types of Accidents.

PJ sir,

This is what I wrote:

Now for all I can say is it seems that God does not micro manage our lives.

I said Does NOT..when did I say God micro manages??

 

[Raji Ram]

It is a belief in many of us that 'avanidri OraNuvum asaiyAdhu'. (Without HIM, even an atom will not move!)

There is a mighty force which performs the 'bommalAttam' on earth; We are all the characters in that play!

A famous song says, 'nAtakamE indha ulagam; AduvadhO bommalAttam!'.

Expecting some help from that Force / Almighty, we are praying; it gives us solace! ray2:

 

[sravna]

It is a belief in many of us that 'avanidri OraNuvum asaiyAdhu'. (Without HIM, even an atom will not move!)

There is a mighty force which performs the 'bommalAttam' on earth; We are all the characters in that play!

A famous song says, 'nAtakamE indha ulagam; AduvadhO bommalAttam!'.

Expecting some help from that Force / Almighty, we are praying; it gives us solace! ray2:

Well said RR madam. The more we realize the true self, the more we are part of the direction and the less we are directed upon.

 

[Naina_Marbus]

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For that matter, the crash of the Air France plane off Brazil also remains a mystery till date.

Not a mystery any more.

Brazilian authorities located the first major wreckage within five days of the accident (1June 2009) , but the aircraft's black boxes were not recovered from the ocean floor until May 2011, nearly two years later.

The final report was released at a news conference on 5 July 2012, according to which the aircraft crashed after temporary inconsistencies between the airspeed measurements—likely due to the aircraft's pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals—caused the autopilot to disconnect, after which the crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately led the aircraft to an aerodynamic stall from which they did not recover.

Read the final report here – 223 pages long.

http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp090601.en/pdf/f-cp090601.en.pdf

 

[ashwin_ash]

Not a mystery any more.

Brazilian authorities located the first major wreckage within five days of the accident (1June 2009) , but the aircraft's black boxes were not recovered from the ocean floor until May 2011, nearly two years later.

The final report was released at a news conference on 5 July 2012, according to which the aircraft crashed after temporary inconsistencies between the airspeed measurements—likely due to the aircraft's pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals—caused the autopilot to disconnect, after which the crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately led the aircraft to an aerodynamic stall from which they did not recover.

Read the final report here – 223 pages long.

http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp090601.en/pdf/f-cp090601.en.pdf

The report is but a theory. No one knows why the plane's nose was up and it was gaining altitude when the nose should have been down and it should have attempted a water landing. There were no major storms, the sea was placid.

Yes, conspiracy theories abound, but only the three flight captains knew what transpired. And as always, major incidents are hushed up after ascribing a 'reason' as to why it occurred.

 

[SANDHYAV]

Series of Technical problems

in line with what NM and AA sir are talking above, a summary from CNN:

Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: What we know and don't know - CNN.com

AIR FRANCE: 2009; communications ended suddenly from the Airbus A330, another state-of-the-art aircraft, with 228 people on board. It took four searches over the course of nearly two years to locate the bulk of Flight 447's wreckage and the majority of the bodies in a mountain range deep under the Atlantic Ocean. It took even longer to establish the cause of the disaster.
What we don't know: Whether the actual fate of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane is in any way similar to that of the Air France flight. Investigators attributed the Flight 447 crash to a series of errors by the pilots and a failure to react effectively to technical problems. If there are no survivors from the Malaysian plane, it will rank as the deadliest airline disaster since November 12, 2001, when American Airlines Flight 587 crashed into a New York neighborhood, killing all 260 people on board and five more on the ground.

 

[vgane]

A graphic showing details of the missing aircraft and search areas!

An ?unprecedented missing aircraft mystery? - The Washington Post

 

[vgane]

Phone ringing, but getting hanged..How is this possible?

Bizarre: missing Malaysia Airlines passengers' phones ring, but no one answers | News24

 

[ashwin_ash]

Phone ringing, but getting hanged..How is this possible?

Bizarre: missing Malaysia Airlines passengers' phones ring, but no one answers | News24

Very scary, but they say the plane 'might' have vanished into an outer space wormhole into another 'dimension', just like there are 'portals' on earth which supposedly lead to 'other dimensions'. Alien abduction is also a rumor.

The scary part is, humans give the most bizarre of reasons when they can't uncover the truth.

 

[vgane]

Now Military searching in the busy Strait of Malacca in Malaysia's western coast ...That the plane was able to maintain a lower cruising altitude and flew for about 500 kms with its transponder and other tracking devices switched off looks scary...What next?..The plot is getting murkier..When will the complete plot be unfolded or will it be consigned to history

Malaysia military tracks missing jet to Strait of Malacca: Source - The Economic Times

 

[sangom]

renukaji


No one expected any miracle, and no one asked you to pray.

Using words like " mannagatti game" is not expected from you!! your answer seems to be irrelevant to my question.
I am sorry that the tone of your answer and explanation lacks your usual knowledge on these subject.



My post is very much relevant to such accidents which takes away many lives.

For anyone taking Bhagavadgeetha as very holy and the words of the highest godhead in the universe, etc., the following verses should show, beyond doubt, as to who is playing the games:

तस्मात्त्वमुक्तिष्ठ यशो लभस्व जित्वा शत्रून्भुङ्‍क्ष्व राज्यं समृद्धम्‌ ।
मयैवैते निहताः पूर्वमेव निमित्तमात्रं भव सव्यसाचिन्‌ ॥

Can we therefore deny, on the authority of this so-called god's own words, that He had probably killed all the 239 lives on board that flight and the aircraft, the mystery surrounding its disappearance, etc., are all only निमित्तs or a mere vehicle or facade?

God kills just as much as god creates. When, how and why He kills or gives birth to is still not known to us. We are all just puppets in a very gargantuan "mannaankatti game".

The same can be explained in other ways and words also but the one above is perhaps what many people will easily understand.

 

[ashwin_ash]

For anyone taking Bhagavadgeetha as very holy and the words of the highest godhead in the universe, etc., the following verses should show, beyond doubt, as to who is playing the games:

तस्मात्त्वमुक्तिष्ठ यशो लभस्व जित्वा शत्रून्भुङ्‍क्ष्व राज्यं समृद्धम्‌ ।
मयैवैते निहताः पूर्वमेव निमित्तमात्रं भव सव्यसाचिन्‌ ॥

Can we therefore deny, on the authority of this so-called god's own words, that He had probably killed all the 239 lives on board that flight and the aircraft, the mystery surrounding its disappearance, etc., are all only निमित्तs or a mere vehicle or facade?

God kills just as much as god creates. When, how and why He kills or gives birth to is still not known to us. We are all just puppets in a very gargantuan "mannaankatti game".

The same can be explained in other ways and words also but the one above is perhaps what many people will easily understand.

Sir,

I never expected you to believe in a vague entity designed to delude the masses called "God". An airplane is man's creation. Theories such as spontaneous disintegration, alien abduction, vanishing into another dimension, terrorism and so on abound. What has that got to do with "God"?

Did God give birth to all children? This sounds somewhat like calling MG "father of the nation". What happened is no "mannangatti" game. It is a tragedy of great proportions, reasons for which are unknown. Btw, the Brazil crash was also hushed up with "findings" after 4 long years.

The aviation industry is very lucrative. If the cause remains unknown, they will "find" some cause.

 

[biswa]

There are some interesting lyrics in the following song (near the end) from God Tussi Great Ho:

Man:
Computer banaya, mein ne robot banaya
Mein ne satellite banaya

God:
Aare mein mein mein mein kartha hai moorakh
Tujkho kisne banaya, Meine
Jaan teri meri moothi mein
Tu hi batha tere kya karu kya karu


[video=youtube;KN2v9cGCWN8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN2v9cGCWN8[/video]

 

[tks]

For anyone taking Bhagavadgeetha as very holy and the words of the highest godhead in the universe, etc., the following verses should show, beyond doubt, as to who is playing the games:

तस्मात्त्वमुक्तिष्ठ यशो लभस्व जित्वा शत्रून्भुङ्‍क्ष्व राज्यं समृद्धम्‌ ।
मयैवैते निहताः पूर्वमेव निमित्तमात्रं भव सव्यसाचिन्‌ ॥

Can we therefore deny, on the authority of this so-called god's own words, that He had probably killed all the 239 lives on board that flight and the aircraft, the mystery surrounding its disappearance, etc., are all only निमित्तs or a mere vehicle or facade?

God kills just as much as god creates. When, how and why He kills or gives birth to is still not known to us. We are all just puppets in a very gargantuan "mannaankatti game".

The same can be explained in other ways and words also but the one above is perhaps what many people will easily understand.

Not sure what this verse has to do with raising questions about B.Gita being considered Holy or not by anyone (whatever that word Holy means).
I do not even understand even the word 'Game' in this context. There are no games except in the mind of a poet who may be trying to convey our inability to understand why things happen the way they do.

If we consider living entity termed as human beings - there are approximately 1.8 deaths per second in the world. By the time someone has read this post and moved on 54 people would have died around the world (in 30 seconds). In a year, 56 million people would have died and in a lifetime of 70 years of an average person, 3.9 billion people would have died.

Similar numbers are born also.

If we include all living beings that can move, eat and bleed, the number dying per year is several orders of magnitude higher and run in billions in a year alone. If we include every living bacteria and virus types there are over trillion deaths per second.

Sri Krishna is presented as Bhagavan by someone by named Vysa to convey a certain profound teaching that is beyond literal translation of the verse and there is lot more to this verse and similar ones in Chapter 11 than what is apparent.

Here Isvara is poetically personified as Time that 'swallows' all beings by Vyasa.

In a lifetime of this universe alone of 14 billion years our life times amount to lesser than a blip.

Indeed 'Time' swallows everything.

In an appropriate setting, right background and right perspective one can relate to the wisdom portrayed in the verse without necessarily subscribing to an anthropomorphic God.

In the context of this tragedy most cannot be helped with any of the above understanding ..

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear TKS Sir,

Very well written post, as usual.

 

[P.J.]

Six important facts you’re not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370


There are some astonishing things you’re not being told about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the flight that simply vanished over the Gulf of Thailand with 239 people on board.

The mystery of the flight’s sudden and complete disappearance has even the world’s top air safety authorities baffled.

“Air-safety and antiterror authorities on two continents appeared equally stumped about what direction the probe should take,” reports the Wall Street Journal.


WSJ goes on to report:


“For now, it seems simply inexplicable,” said Paul Hayes, director of safety and insurance at Ascend Worldwide, a British advisory and aviation data firm.


While investigators are baffled, the mainstream media isn’t telling you the whole story, either. So I’ve assembled this collection of facts that should raise serious questions in the minds of anyone following this situation.


• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

No explosion from the plane itself can destroy the black box recorders. They are bomb-proof structures that hold digital recordings of cockpit conversations as well as detailed flight data and control surface data.

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn’t been detected at all. That’s why investigators are having such trouble finding it. Normally, they only need to “home in” on the black box transmitter signal. But in this case, the absence of a signal means the black box itself — an object designed to survive powerful explosions — has either vanished, malfunctioned or been obliterated by some powerful force beyond the worst fears of aircraft design engineers.

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

In past cases of aircraft destroyed over the ocean or crashing into the ocean, debris has always been spotted floating on the surface of the water. That’s because — as you may recall from the safety briefing you’ve learned to ignore — “your seat cushion may be used as a flotation device.”

Yes, seat cushions float. So do many other non-metallic aircraft parts. If Flight 370 was brought down by an explosion of some sort, there would be massive debris floating on the ocean, and that debris would not be difficult to spot. The fact that it has not yet been spotted only adds to the mystery of how Flight 370 appears to have literally vanished from the face of the Earth.


• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature

One theory currently circulating on the ‘net is that a missile brought down the airliner, somehow blasting the aircraft and all its contents to “smithereens” — which means very tiny pieces of matter that are undetectable as debris.

The problem with this theory is that there exists no known ground-to-air or air-to-air missile with such a capability. All known missiles generate tremendous debris when they explode on target. Both the missile and the debris produce very large radar signatures which would be easily visible to both military vessels and air traffic authorities.


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

Air traffic controllers have full details of almost exactly where the aircraft was at the moment it vanished. They know the location, elevation and airspeed — three pieces of information which can readily be used to estimate the likely location of debris.

Remember: air safety investigators are not stupid people. They’ve seen mid-air explosions before, and they know how debris falls. There is already a substantial data set of airline explosions and crashes from which investigators can make well-educated guesses about where debris should be found. And yet, even armed with all this experience and information, they remain totally baffled on what happened to Flight 370.


• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar


Hijacking an airplane does not cause it to simply vanish from radar. Even if transponders are disabled on the aircraft, ground radar can still readily track the location of the aircraft using so-called “passive” radar (classic ground-based radar systems that emit a signal and monitor its reflection).

Thus, the theory that the flight was hijacked makes no sense whatsoever. When planes are hijacked, they do not magically vanish from radar.


Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished

The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that they’ve somehow missed all along).


The inescapable conclusion is that Flight 370 simply vanished in some way that we do not yet understand. This is what is currently giving rise to all sorts of bizarre-sounding theories across the ‘net, including discussions of possible secret military weapons tests, Bermuda Triangle-like ripples in the fabric of spacetime, and even conjecture that non-terrestrial (alien) technology may have teleported the plane away.

Personally, I’m not buying any of that without a lot more evidence. The most likely explanation so far is that the debris simply hasn’t been found yet because it fell over an area which is somehow outside the search zone. But as each day goes by, even this explanation becomes harder and harder to swallow.


The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370; but rather that we won’t. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new, mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.



If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever control it already has the ability to dominate all of Earth’s nations with a fearsome military weapon of unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft suffering a fatal mechanical failure.


Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Eye Opening Info | Eye Opening Info

 

[P.J.]

Satellite images of possible debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have been released on a Chinese government website.

The three images show what appear to be large, floating objects in the South China Sea. Previous sightings of possible debris have proved fruitless.
The China-bound plane went missing on Friday with 239 people on board.

It vanished about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur as it flew south of Vietnam's Ca Mau peninsula.

No distress signal or message was sent.


The three images are:

The images were taken on Sunday, a day after the plane disappeared, but were only released on Wednesday on the website of China's State Administration for Science.


Map co-ordinates place the objects in the South China Sea east of Malaysia and off the southern tip of Vietnam.

China's official Xinhua news agency says the largest of the objects measures about 24m x 22m (78ft x 72ft).


BBC News - Malaysia Airlines MH370: China in new 'debris' clue

 

[renuka]

It has been so many days..dont even know what to hope anymore..after a while your senses become numb and blank.

 

[vgane]

Crash site found:

A Chinese satellite has reportedly located the 'crash site' of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which went missing shortly after taking off from Beijing on Saturday morning.

The satellite, which was looking for remnants of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, found "three suspected floating objects", CNN reported on Thursday.


The 'crash site' has been found at a spot where the South China Sea meets the Gulf of Thailand, reported CNN.

'Crash site' of missing MA Flight 370 found?

 

[tbs]

hi

sometimes mystery...even science cannot give answer for the anguished ppl...many days still no real clue....something to

float in water.....

 

[Lakshmi_Ramachandra]

Lets all pray to God that the missing people are unharmed and come back.

 

[Siva_Raman]

its very mysterious.

 

[renuka]

One Vashtu Shastra expert from Chennai is now claiming that the plane will be sighted on Saturday after the "positive" effects of Jupiter comes into action.

He was saying the flight went missing on Asthami which was not favorable for travel.

Then he adds that horoscope has no effect when a person is not on ground.

BTW there are many people who claim to have powers etc..why no one can predict anything when there is an actual need?

 

[sarang]

Astrology theory too may be added to hundreds floating around.

Technology forecasting:

I am at a loss to comprehend why this has not been developed and implemented.

In 2014 it is said all passengers will be allowed to make normal mobile calls as the calls will be routed through satellites. Technology exists.

Instead of waiting for the plane to crash and look for the black box, it should be possible to continuously transmit flight and voice data through satellites and saved in a base station; a real time programme can analyse and generate alarms without waiting. Data can be accessed even if the flight has deviated from the flight corridor.

 

[renuka]

Astrology theory too may be added to hundreds floating around.

Technology forecasting:

I am at a loss to comprehend why this has not been developed and implemented.

In 2014 it is said all passengers will be allowed to make normal mobile calls as the calls will be routed through satellites. Technology exists.

Instead of waiting for the plane to crash and look for the black box, it should be possible to continuously transmit flight and voice data through satellites and saved in a base station; a real time programme can analyse and generate alarms without waiting. Data can be accessed even if the flight has deviated from the flight corridor.

Relatives are claiming that phones have ringing tone but no one answers them.

Some even claim that the FB status of some on board shows online..but yet nothing?

Its really weird...no idea what happened.