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Malaysia Airlines..TVK

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It is hard to explain such accidents which snatch away many lives at the same time; Something beyond Karma, which is more powerful than Destiny has a role in this.


Surely all the passengers are not supposed to die at the same time as per their Horoscopes, so predictions based on Horoscopes is not accurate.

If Fate is the reason for such accidents, how is that all of them faced the cruel Fate at the same time?

War, genocide, terrorism, natural calamities, accidents, takes away many lives at the same time, which can never be explained by Karma Theory.

Does it mean that Karma theory has its own limitations, and some other force more powerful is playing in everyone’s life?
 
It is hard to explain such accidents which snatch away many lives at the same time; Something beyond Karma, which is more powerful than Destiny has a role in this.


Surely all the passengers are not supposed to die at the same time as per their Horoscopes, so predictions based on Horoscopes is not accurate.

If Fate is the reason for such accidents, how is that all of them faced the cruel Fate at the same time?

War, genocide, terrorism, natural calamities, accidents, takes away many lives at the same time, which can never be explained by Karma Theory.

Does it mean that Karma theory has its own limitations, and some other force more powerful is playing in everyone’s life?


Dear PJ sir,

The best is just leave God/Karma etc out of the equation.

Not that I do not believe in it but the fact remains that no amount of prayers can ever change anything.

There are people urging everyone to pray for this incident.Tell me frankly "what can prayer do?"

I have not said a single prayer in a very very long time and neither am I praying for any miracle cos there are actually NO MIRACLES but only logical explanations for every occurrence.All I can do at this stage is just HOPE.

There is no force playing any mannagatti game with our lives..its is just events that happen in our lives.

Its much easier to think on those lines cos at least we will start looking for logical answers instead of hoping for a miracle.
 
We only lose our sensitivity when its not our own blood.

That's just human nature to only feel for their own and not for others.

Something that even Arjuna displayed..what I call the Arjuna Syndrome...only having feeling for their own kith and kin.

14 Nationalities are involved! World is one in praying for them!

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Dear PJ sir,

The best is just leave God/Karma etc out of the equation.

Not that I do not believe in it but the fact remains that no amount of prayers can ever change anything.

There are people urging everyone to pray for this incident.Tell me frankly "what can prayer do?"

I have not said a single prayer in a very very long time and neither am I praying for any miracle cos there are actually NO MIRACLES but only logical explanations for every occurrence.All I can do at this stage is just HOPE.

There is no force playing any mannagatti game with our lives..its is just events that happen in our lives.

Its much easier to think on those lines cos at least we will start looking for logical answers instead of hoping for a miracle.
well ,we have to wait for the black box of the aircraft to know the scientific reason for the crash if it has taken place.
 
It appears that the plane might have been exploded! Read the following paragraphs:

'Malaysia Airlines Chief Executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said pilots are supposed to inform the airline and traffic control authorities if the

plane does a U-turn. "From what we have, there was no such distress signal or distress call per se, so we are equally puzzled," he said.'
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'In addition to the plane's sudden disappearance, which experts say is consistent with a possible onboard explosion, the stolen passports

have strengthened concerns about terrorism as a possible cause. '

Read more:
Malaysia Airlines flight: Vietnam may have found door of missing plane | CTV News
 
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You betray a tremendous lack of sensitivity. Typically Indian line of thinking where everyone is but a number. I am shocked beyond words at your callous attitude.

The issue here is (I saw just now on China's channel- CCTV), Malaysia seems to be soft-pedaling this issue. They do not want members of the "peaceful religion" to face a backlash. If the perpetrators belong to the "religion of peace", China will send all its Muslims en-masse to some gulag near the Mongolian border.

As it is, China is facing serious Islamic extremism in Xinjiang. The fact that Malaysia is "officially" Islamic doesn't help things either..CCTV is speculating that the 2-4 men who traveled on forged IDs might have been from the "peaceful" religion. And Malaysia doesn't certainly want to be bracketed with Saudi, Somalia, Pakistan and so on.
 
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It is hard to explain such accidents which snatch away many lives at the same time; Something beyond Karma, which is more powerful than Destiny has a role in this.


Surely all the passengers are not supposed to die at the same time as per their Horoscopes, so predictions based on Horoscopes is not accurate.

If Fate is the reason for such accidents, how is that all of them faced the cruel Fate at the same time?

War, genocide, terrorism, natural calamities, accidents, takes away many lives at the same time, which can never be explained by Karma Theory.

Does it mean that Karma theory has its own limitations, and some other force more powerful is playing in everyone’s life?

No Karma etc. You are also betraying a lack of sensitivity. Smacks of hypocrisy. This is not the time to raise questions about "fate" bla bla..

You are displaying remarkable lack of sensitivity now and instead lapsing into useless philosophy at a time of great tragedy which removed so many loved ones of so many people.
 
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Dear TVK sir,

I hope you can delete your post # 22 where you asked me to write some ghost story.

I have already deleted my reply to you where I had quoted your post.

I see that post escalating into a 'fight' here and I feel this is not the right time for any sort of difference in opinion when many lives are still missing.

So kindly delete that post and I will delete this post of mine after you have deleted yours.

To Krish ji..please kindly edit and delete the quoted portion of your post #25 cos I had deleted my reply to TVK sir.

This is a humble request..dont want to start the week in a bad mood.
 
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As usual multiple stories are circulating; hijacked, pilot intentionally dived down (no distress call or message), terrorist attack, plain accident - I will pray for hijacking as chances of survival for passengers and crew are high.
 
As usual multiple stories are circulating; hijacked, pilot intentionally dived down (no distress call or message), terrorist attack, plain accident - I will pray for hijacking as chances of survival for passengers and crew are high.


A local fisherman said he saw a plane flying unusually low and he reported to the authorities after knowing what happened.

yes you are right..at least in case of hijack chances of people surviving are higher..But where did they land??
 
Dear TVK sir,

I hope you can delete your post # 22 where you asked me to write some ghost story.

I have already deleted my reply to you where I had quoted your post.

I see that post escalating into a 'fight' here and I feel this is not the right time for any sort of difference in opinion when many lives are still missing.

So kindly delete that post and I will delete this post of mine after you have deleted yours.

To Krish ji..please kindly edit and delete the quoted portion of your post #25 cos I had deleted my reply to TVK sir.

This is a humble request..dont want to start the week in a bad mood.


Done..!! .. I have posted it..just to give diversion for the sorrow.. and nothing to

offend anyone..


TVK
 
Dear TVK sir,

I hope you can delete your post # 22 where you asked me to write some ghost story.

I have already deleted my reply to you where I had quoted your post.

I see that post escalating into a 'fight' here and I feel this is not the right time for any sort of difference in opinion when many lives are still missing.

So kindly delete that post and I will delete this post of mine after you have deleted yours.

To Krish ji..please kindly edit and delete the quoted portion of your post #25 cos I had deleted my reply to TVK sir.

This is a humble request..dont want to start the week in a bad mood.
deleted as per your suggestion. cheer up. let us put it behind us
let us have a good week . we all have work to do
with best wishes
krish44
 
A local fisherman said he saw a plane flying unusually low and he reported to the authorities after knowing what happened.

yes you are right..at least in case of hijack chances of people surviving are higher..But where did they land??

Tough. They could never have landed in Batam, the island is too close to Singapore. Aceh is Islamist fundamentalist, there might be chances. Myanmar is a rogue state, but it's dependent on China. God forbid the plane didn't end up in lawless South Asia.

For that matter, the crash of the Air France plane off Brazil also remains a mystery till date.
 
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Dear PJ sir,

The best is just leave God/Karma etc out of the equation.

Not that I do not believe in it but the fact remains that no amount of prayers can ever change anything.

There are people urging everyone to pray for this incident.Tell me frankly "what can prayer do?"

I have not said a single prayer in a very very long time and neither am I praying for any miracle cos there are actually NO MIRACLES but only logical explanations for every occurrence.All I can do at this stage is just HOPE.

There is no force playing any mannagatti game with our lives..its is just events that happen in our lives.

Its much easier to think on those lines cos at least we will start looking for logical answers instead of hoping for a miracle.

renukaji


No one expected any miracle, and no one asked you to pray.

Using words like " mannagatti game" is not expected from you!! your answer seems to be irrelevant to my question.
I am sorry that the tone of your answer and explanation lacks your usual knowledge on these subject.



My post is very much relevant to such accidents which takes away many lives.
 
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What might have happened to Malaysia Flight no MH 370?

What likely brought down the 777 "would have to be something catastrophic and unexpected," said Dave Powell, a retired United Airlines Boeing 777 captain who is now dean of the College of Aviation at Western Michigan University.
An in-flight breakup due to an explosion of any origin could have been the culprit, but Powell said the Triple Seven, as it's universally known by its crews, is a solid airplane, unlikely to experience disastrous mechanical events. "The people


The discovery that two people whose names appeared on the passenger list were in fact not on board, and had reported their passports stolen, lends some early credence to the theory that a bomb might have exploded. In previous cases of in-flight bomb explosions -- Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988; Air India 182 over the Atlantic in 1985; and UTA 772 in 1989 -- the airplanes had all disappeared from the sky without warning or a distress call.

An explosion could also be due to a fuel tank, as happened to TWA flight 800 in 1996, a crash initially attributed to possible terrorism before the investigation pointed to a spark igniting fuel vapors and causing an explosion that broke up the plane. In that case, there was no distress call either. But fuel tank design has come a long way since the late-1960s technology of the Boeing 747, and no 777 has ever exhibited any issues of that kind.

Fires on board, loss of engine power for various reasons, or instrument malfunctions have all caused crashes of big jetliners, but the sudden disappearance of MH370 with no radio contact makes those scenarios less likely. Pilot suicide has also been a cause of crashes, although rare, and any scenario of that kind would probably be evident if the flight-data recorder (or "black box") and cockpit voice recorder are found.

Given the relatively shallow depth of the Gulf of Thailand, the possible crash area, both devices should be located fairly quickly -- a key difference between Malaysia 370 and the similarly baffling Air France 447, which went down in 2009 in the middle of the Atlantic. It took two years to find the recorders on the ocean floor 4,000 meters (13,000 feet) down. The investigation found pilots had reacted improperly to a stall, causing the Airbus 330 to irrecoverably lose control.


At this early stage, there is no indication that the pilots did anything untoward, as was the case in the botched Asiana Airlines landing in San Francisco. "I was chief pilot for United in San Francisco with the 777, I've flown that approach hundreds of times," Powell said, "and that was poor airmanship. But this? Boy, this is just unconscionable."

What Happened To Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
 
Aviation Industry's Passport Problem


“If Malaysia Airlines and all airlines worldwide were able to check the passport details of prospective passengers against Interpol’s database, then we would not have to speculate whether stolen passports were used by terrorists to board MH 370. We would know that stolen passports were not used by any of the passengers to board that flight,” the head of Interpol concluded.



“For the sake of innocent passengers who go through invasive security measures prior to boarding flights in order to get to their destination safely, I sincerely hope that governments and airlines worldwide will learn from the tragedy of missing flight MH 370 and begin to screen all passengers’ passports prior to allowing them to board flights. Doing so will indeed take us a step closer to ensuring safer travel.”

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Disappearance Exposes Aviation Industry?s Passport Problem
 
Dear PJ sir,

The best is just leave God/Karma etc out of the equation.

Not that I do not believe in it but the fact remains that no amount of prayers can ever change anything.

There are people urging everyone to pray for this incident.Tell me frankly "what can prayer do?"

I have not said a single prayer in a very very long time and neither am I praying for any miracle cos there are actually NO MIRACLES but only logical explanations for every occurrence.All I can do at this stage is just HOPE.

Its much easier to think on those lines cos at least we will start looking for logical answers instead of hoping for a miracle.

I fully believe in the rationality of your point.
But as human beings we are so powerless, and it is difficult to accept our frailty. So we pretend that praying is going to do something, and pretend to help the survivors. We say soothing words, whether we believe it or not.
It is like the placebo effect, hopefully it is harmless.
 
renukaji


No one expected any miracle, and no one asked you to pray.

Using words like " mannagatti game" is not expected from you!! your answer seems to be irrelevant to my question.
I am sorry that the tone of your answer and explanation lacks your usual knowledge on these subject.



My post is very much relevant to such accidents which takes away many lives.

Dear PJ sir,

Do you realize that what you wrote "some other force more powerful is playing in everyone’s life?" can actually gives GOD a BAD NAME when we actually have no evidence to suggest so.

In fact statements like what you wrote can make a person totally reject even the idea of God as all merciful and all loving.

We have to admit that GOD is a witness and the world runs by the law of cause and effect.

This is a hard fact to swallow for everyone of us that it seems that God does not micro manage our lives.

So from what I feel my reply to your post did NOT do as much disservice as your post did.

I did not shift the blame to God or any other Force...I am trying to understand how God runs this universe.
 
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Dear PJ sir,

Do you realize that what you wrote "is there a higher power or force playing games" actually gives GOD a BAD NAME when we actually have no evidence to suggest so.Its as if God has no other better work to sit and play around with lives.

In fact statements like what you wrote can make a person totally reject even the idea of God as all merciful and all loving.

We have to admit that GOD is a witness and the world runs by the law of cause and effect.

This is a hard fact to swallow for everyone of us that it seems that God does not micro manage our lives.

So from what I feel my reply to your post did NOT do as much disservice as your post did.

I did not shift the blame to God..I am trying to understand how God runs this universe.

renukaji

I am sorry , you derive your own observation on my post and bring God into this; what i meant is The theory of Karma, Fate and whatever other theories are there can not explain these types of accidents which takes away a group of lives without any warning.

You said "things just happen" and now you say God runs the Universe.
 
renukaji

I am sorry , you derive your own observation on my post and bring God into this; what i meant is The theory of Karma, Fate and whatever other theories are there can not explain these types of accidents which takes away a group of lives without any warning.

You said "things just happen" and now you say God runs the Universe.


Dear PJ sir,

There is system that runs this universe that we still have no idea how it works.

I said things happen becos of the law of cause and effect and how it actually works..we hardly know.

Now for all I can say is it seems that God does not micro manage our lives.

That is all I know for now.
 
Dear PJ sir,

There is system that runs this universe that we still have no idea how it works.

I said things happen becos of the law of cause and effect and how it actually works..we hardly know.

Now for all I can say is it seems that God does not micro manage our lives.

That is all I know for now.

renukaji

by your own admission , God micro manages our lives which means God is the reason for these types of Accidents.
 
God is the reason for birth and God is the reason for death (if you believe in God that is). If you don't, you can ascribe it to the "Universal Law", Quantum Mechanics or even the Theory of Everything. (TOE).
 
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