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ISRO’s findings should put an end to the myth of the Saraswati river being a ‘myth’

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[h=1]It is in Rig Vedha where there is mention of Saraswathi River….[/h][h=1]Perhaps findings of ISRO may now vindicate that it is NOT a myth[/h][h=1]ISRO’s findings should put an end to the myth of the Saraswati river being a ‘myth’[/h]
There have been concerted efforts in mainstream media to deny the existence, or even a possibility of the existence of the Saraswati river. The zeal to label Saraswatiriver as a mythical river has been on top of the agenda of leftists and Marxist historians of India.

The river Saraswati is called naditama (most sacred river in Sanskrit) in the Rig Veda. The Saraswati river is mentioned some fifty times in the hymns of the Rig Veda. It is closely related to the ancient Rig Vedic society and Hinduism. Calling it
mythical, in their opinion, would considerably hit the credibility of Vedic texts which are still a part of Hindu faith.

On 5th January 2018, Scroll.in reported the formation of a permanent panel to study the mythical Saraswati river. The concluding paragraph of the article, as usual, casts aspersions on the existence of the river itself.

This has been the subject of a great deal of debate for decades. While some Hindu groups and historians believe the “lost river” once flowed through the region that is now Haryana, other historians say the Vedas themselves have not been validated, and therefore, the river only exists in myth.


Death of Rivers in Recent Past : An Example From Canada


Before going in to the answer given by ISRO to Parliament, we need to answer a simple question : can rivers be lost? Are there any recent examples of dead rivers? The answer is yes. In April 2017 a river named ‘Slims’ in
Canada, disappeared due to a receding glacier. The report by The Guardian on the same incident gave a map of the change in direction. The phenomenon observed in this case is called river piracy or stream capture .

If rivers can disappear in 2017, why can’t the same phenomenon have occurred in the Vedic age ?

Read more at: http://www.opindia.com/2018/01/isro...the-myth-of-the-saraswati-river-being-a-myth/
 
Do Rivers disappear?

As recently as 20 years ago, there were an estimated 50,000 rivers in China, each covering a flow area of at least 60 square miles. But now, according to China's First National Census of Water, more than 28,000 of these rivers are missing. To put this number into context, China's lost rivers are almost equivalent, in terms of basin area, to the United States losing the entire Mississippi River.


Why have these rivers "vanished" from the maps and national records?

They do indeed. Some rivers are seasonal and dry up every year. Others flow for a long time and then disappear.


For instance, the Sacramento River, which now empties into the ocean at the Golden Gate, once flowed more or less where the very small Pajaro River is now. But the mountains at the south end of San Francisco Bay rose and cut that exit off. So the Sacramento cut a new path through the relatively low hills at San Francisco.


So no reasonable person will question that Saraswati River disappeared. Yes, there is some confusion about Saraswati river's location.

We must analyze the problem with a rational and scientific mind instead of maligning people questioning some ancient writings.
We have a right to question anything (this is even more) true in Hinduism.
If we have the knowledge answer it with facts, there is no need to malign and belittle the person questioning.

Yama did nor belittle Natchiketa, Krishna did not Chide Arjuna for asking questions.
 
Between 3500 and 1900 BC, the Harappan or Indus Valley Civilisation - the world's largest civilisation of the time - covered vast areas of modern day Pakistan and Western India from Kashmir to Gujarat. Its cities were spread across what appears to be a waterless desert in the western part of the Indian subcontinent. A careful plot of these sites suggests they lie along the path of a dried riverbed, and the river, if filled up, would rival the Indus in size. It could have arisen in the upper reaches of the Shivalik Hills in the foothills of the Himalayas, and then flowed west.

Today too there is a river that follows the path. It is called the Gaggar in India and as it moves into Pakistan, it becomes the Hakra. But it is a seasonal monsoon water channel that dries up in the summer. It is fed by the Sarsuti and Chautang rivers. Chautang in particular passes close to the river Yamuna, but the two diverge as they reach the plains, the Chautang going west while the Yamuna goes east to eventually meet the Ganga.


Rivers are not stable and change course over time. Small earthquakes and minor changes in embankments or silt deposition can also change a river's course. So it is possible to make a case that the Yamuna once flowed along with the Chautang and fed into the Gaggar-Hakra, making it the perineal river of great magnitude whose dry bed we see today.


Michael Danino's excellent book The Lost River: On the trail of the Saraswati, published by Penguin India, summarises all the evidence present in favour of the suggestion that the riverbed in Western India is indeed the Saraswati.While suggesting that the Gaggar-Hakra, on whose banks lie the Harappan sites, was a mighty river at that time is not easy, extrapolating that it is the Saraswati of Vedic fame is even more difficult.


This question has unfortunately become entangled with questions of national identity and pride. Hardline Hindus wish to use the Saraswati's references in the Vedas to claim, by association, that the first civilisation of the Subcontinent, the Harappan civilisation, was a Hindu civilisation.


Proving this is not easy. Even if we overlook the uncertain scientific data, one has to establish that the Vedic people were referring to the same river. There are several problems in trying to establish this. After all, at several locations where the ancient peoples moved, the name Saraswati is used quite commonly for rivers. This evidence can be interpreted either way depending on one's perspective - to claim that it was a commonly used name or that people migrating away from the great Saraswati kept the memory of the river alive by naming their small rivers Saraswati too. But we have no unambiguous evidence of Vedic people having visited that area, nor of Harappan people following the Vedic religion. There are really no clear places of worship in the Harappan cities and there is no discussion of cities in the Vedas. There is hardly any evidence of the horse amongst the Harappans even though it is central to Vedas. Tenuous claims to the contrary have been made but these too are few and far apart.

http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/st...i-mentioned-in-the-vedas-really-exist-2023285
 
[h=1]Did Mythical Saraswati River Really Exist?[/h]


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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Indian civilisation owes much to its numerous rivers. Rivers guaranteed survival; attracted settlements and enabled trade. River Saraswati is often referenced in Indian tradition but today it does not officially exist. Although there is proof that it existed some still doubt. Did the river ever really exist or was it fictional? If it did exist, where did it reside and why did it disappear?[/COLOR]



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One of the most prevailing theories is that the dry river of Ghaggar (changes to Hakra in Pakistan) that lies between Yamuna and Sutlej and runs only during the monsoon river is the once great Saraswati. Ground surveys; satellite pictures and isotope analysis are indicating that the dry riverbed of Ghaggar-Hakra was once a large river that sustained the Indus valley civilisation (more information can be found in “The Lost River: On the trail of the Saraswati” a book by Michael Danino). Furthermore, ancient cities of the Indus valley civilisation have been discovered in what is now a desert. A careful look indicates that many sites are spread near the path of the dry riverbed (Kalibangan, Banawalli and Ganweriwala)


According to S.R.N. Murthy (1), the Vedic Saraswati is not a myth. It was a live river in the Vedic time, and irrigated large areas supporting the Vedic Culture to a considerable extent. Its extinction is due to geological changes in the area.


In the Mahabarata which was written many years after Rig Veda we get a different picture of the Saraswati river. The river seems to have diminished in size. Also, it is mentioned that the river includes and underground section; “The Saraswati disappears in the desert at Vinshana and reappears at Chamasa”. Furthermore, other texts such as the Tandya and Jaiminiya Brahmanas which were also written after the Rig Veda mention that the Saraswati dried into a deser (the Thar desert). Archaeological evidence collected from ancient settlements suggests that the river dried-up around 2000BC. At that time old settlements were abandoned and new ones were constructed close to the Ganga and Yamuna rivers.


It would not make sense that Saraswati did not exist. After all ancient Indian scriptures make references to many rivers that exist today. What would be the purpose of introducing a fictional river?


Source: http://www.historydisclosure.com/saraswati-river-really-exist/
 
[h=2]Seven-member panel was commissioned by the Water Resources Ministry to map its paleochannels.[/h]An expert committee of geologists, archaeologists and hydrologists say they have found evidence of the course of the river Saraswati, a river mentioned in the Rigveda and Hindu mythology .

Apart from mythological investigation, the greater purpose of the six-month investigation was to check if these ancient channels, buried under several layers of sediment, can be replenished and used to improve groundwater levels, he added. The CGWB had vetted and part-funded the project. The committee was constituted in March to compile “all information on palaeochannels and references in modern and ancient literature, causes for their disappearance and assessing their recharge potential.”


So it may not all be wasted effort after all.



http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...river-Saraswati-did-exist/article16072283.ece

 
Diana Eck notes that the power and significance of the Sarasvati for present-day India is in the persistent symbolic presence at the confluence of rivers all over India. Although "materially missing", she is the third river, which emerges to join in the meeting of rivers, thereby making the waters triple holy.
After the Vedic Sarasvati dried, new myths about the rivers arose. Sarasvati is described to flow in the underworld and rise to the surface at some places. For centuries, the Sarasvati river existed in a "subtle or mythic" form, since it corresponds with none of the major rivers of present-day South Asia.

The confluence (sangam) or joining together of the Ganges and Yamuna rivers at Triveni Sangam, Allahabad, is believed to also converge with the unseen Sarasvati river, which is believed to flow underground. This despite Allahabad being a considerable distance from the possible historic routes of an actual Sarasvati river.


The Kumbh Mela, a mass bathing festival is held at Triveni Sangam, literally "confluence of the three rivers", every 12 years. The belief of Sarasvati joining at the confluence of the Ganges and Yamuna originates from the Puranic scriptures and denotes the "powerful legacy" the Vedic river left after her disappearance.

The belief is interpreted as "symbolic". The three rivers Sarasvati, Yamuna, Ganga are considered consorts of the Hindu Trinity (Trimurti) Brahma, Vishnu (as Krishna) and Shiva respectively.


In lesser known configuration, Sarasvati is said to form the Triveni confluence with rivers Hiranya and Kapila at Somnath. There are several other Trivenis in India where two physical rivers are joined by the "unseen" Sarasvati, which adds to the sanctity of the confluence.


Romila Thapar notes that "once the river had been mythologized through invoking the memory of the earlier river, its name - Sarasvati - could be applied to many rivers, which is what happened in various parts of the [Indian] subcontinent."


Several present-day rivers are also named Sarasvati, after the Vedic Sarasvati:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarasvati_River


In The USA every state has a county or city named Washington.
 
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Last week, the Haryana government changed the name of Mustafabad tehsil in Yamunanagar district to Saraswati Nagar. The renaming of Mustafabad, home to over 8,500 people, was done to brand it as the place that marks the discovery of the mythical river Saraswati. Haryana’s first BJP government, headed by Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar, has sanctioned Rs 500 million for the excavation of the river. Construction of a palaeo-channel, digging of borewells, carbon-dating and other works have already been initiated.

The BJP and NDA have always been enthusiastic about “finding” the lost river. In 2002, the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government gave the job to a high-power panel headed by Culture Minister Jagmohan, with 36 months to complete the project. Two years later, the UPA came to power and scrapped the project. The Modi government intends to revive it, with the Ministry of Culture as the nodal agency and the ASI as the implementation agency.

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/the-elusive-saraswati-what-the-long-search-has-found/

March 9, 2016

Now I see the political angle. An Archaeological project is turned on its head to politicise it.
What a waste of money and time for show and tell project.


So basically invent a solution for the non-existing problem to further a political agenda.


I am going to withdraw from the thread.
I assumed that ISRO was involved it might be a scientific quest.
I should have known better.
 
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[h=1]'Lost' Saraswati river brought 'back to life'[/h]Chandigarh: The 'lost' Saraswati river was brought back to life on Friday when the Haryana government pumped water into its deemed route.

As per reports, 100 cusecs of water was pumped into a dug-up channel from tubewells at Uncha Chandna village in Yamunanagar.
Officials are expecting the water to fill the channel uptil Kurukshetra, some 40 kilometres away.

The pumping of water into the dug-up channel was part of the Haryana government's plans to revive the lost river.
The Saraswati Heritage Development Board (SHDB) had conducted a trial run on July 30.

The Indian Express
quoted Anil Kumar Gupta, Engineer-in-Chief, Haryana Irrigation Department, as saying, “We have released water into the river at Uncha Chandna on Thursday. Initially, 100 cusecs of water has been released. It is likely to go up to Kurukshetra. It is yet to be seen how much further the water goes. Once we see that there are no obstructions in the flow of water then another 100 cusecs will be released. This could be done in another fortnight.”

There are plans to build three dams on the river route to keep it flowing perennially.

The state government claimed to have found the lost river when water was detected during digging of the dry river bed at Yamunanagar.


Read more at: http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/lost-saraswati-river-brought-back-to-life_1915729.html
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[h=1]Saraswati river not mythical, it did exist: Govt constituted expert committee[/h]
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Valdiya, an eminent geologist, said the river passed through Haryana, Rajasthan and North Gujarat, land texture of which was studied by the panel.

Union Water Resources Minister Uma Bharti said the government will take action on the report, which according to her, "cannot be challenged".

"We have reached a conclusion that river Saraswati existed, it flowed. It originated in the Himalayas and met gulf at the western sea,"
Professor K S Valdiya, who led the panel, said while handing over the report to the government.

Valdiya, an eminent geologist, said the river passed through Haryana, Rajasthan and North Gujarat, land texture of which was studied by the panel.

According to a senior Central Ground Water Board (CGWB) official, Saraswati passed through Pakistan before meeting Western Sea through Rann of Kutch and was approximately 4,000 km in length.

One-third of the river stretch fell in present-day Pakistan. The longer, two-third stretch measuring nearly 3000 km in length fell in India, the official claimed.

Read more at: http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...ovt-constituted-expert-committee_1940300.html


In India every State may have a M.G. Road (Mahatma Gandhi Road)
 
If the report of ISRO is to be believed then what happens to the claim of Saraswati river joining in Prayagraj (Allahabad) incognito ?
Another rivulet in Mana village north of Badrinath I have been shown as origin of Saraswati river. My son who has visited Kailash-Manasrovar showed me a picture of origin of Saraswati river there.

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.
 
Another rivulet in Mana village north of Badrinath I have been shown as origin of Saraswati river. My son who has visited Kailash-Manasrovar showed me a picture of origin of Saraswati river there.

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.


Sir,

Some one has commented:

“This river is also known as Saraswathi river. But, this river which is near Badrinath is not the Saraswathi RIver of the yore. The Vedic period river had disappeared due to geographical & seismological reasons, as far as i know.”

[h=1][FONT=&quot]Mystic Saraswati RiverHimalayas[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/h]
3 km from Badrinath, at Mana one can see the Holy Saraswati emerging out of the rocks and falling down furiously. Saraswati river cannot be seen in the plains. Towards the end one can see the Saraswati merging into the Alaknanda river. The sangam or confluence of Alaknanada and Saraswati river is called Keshav Prayag.Saraswati is an ancient river that flowed in Northern India during the Vedic era. It originated in the Himalayas and flowed westwards to join the Arabian sea. It was earlier thought to be a mythological river that existed only in the Vedas.

3 km from Badrinath, at Mana one can see the Holy Saraswati emerging out of the rocks and falling down furiously. Saraswati river cannot be seen in the plains. Towards the end one can see the Saraswati merging into the Alaknanda river. The sangam or confluence of Alaknanada and Saraswati river is called Keshav Prayag.Saraswati is an ancient river that flowed in Northern India during the Vedic era. It originated in the Himalayas and flowed westwards to join the Arabian sea. It was earlier thought to be a mythological river that existed only in the Vedas.

3 km from Badrinath, at Mana one can see the Holy Saraswati emerging out of the rocks and falling down furiously. Saraswati river cannot be seen in the plains. Towards the end one can see the Saraswati merging into the Alaknanda river. The sangam or confluence of Alaknanada and Saraswati river is called Keshav Prayag.Saraswati is an ancient river that flowed in Northern India during the Vedic era. It originated in the Himalayas and flowed westwards to join the Arabian sea. It was earlier thought to be a mythological river that existed only in the Vedas.
Recent discoveries have proved that this river did indeed exist during the Vedic era about 6000 years back. The aerial photos from NASA and ISRO satellites have revealed the dried up river bed and geological excavations have proved the same.When the Saraswati river flowed, the current desert of Rajasthan was a green land full of vegetation. The existing rivers Sutlej and Yamuna were major sources of the Saraswati river during the Vedic era. The plate tectonics of the Indian plate with the Eurasian plate caused geological shifts in the Himalayan region around 6000 years ago and caused the Sutlej river to be diverted to join Indus river and similarly Yamuna joined river Ganga to create the present Ganga-Yamuna plain.This caused the Saraswati river to dry up as its major sources of water were lost. In addition, Indus which was a smaller river till then became a bigger river due to the inclusion of water from Sutlej.Most people in India think of it as a mythical river. Some even believe that it is an invisible river or that it still flows underground. Another commonly held perception is that the Saraswati once flowed through the North Indian city of Allahabad, meeting there with two other rivers, the Ganges and the Yamuna. The confluence of these three rivers - one of which is not visible to the eye - is considered one of India's holiest spots.Rigvedic hymn says Ambitame Naditame Devitame Saraswati which means Oh Saraswati, you are the best of mothers, you are the best of rivers, you are the best of goddesses.The late Rigvedic Nadistuti sukta enumerates all important rivers from the Ganges in the east up to the Indus in the west in a clear geographical order. Here (RV 10.75.5), the sequence "Ganges, Yamuna, Sarasvati, Shutudri" places the Sarasvati between the Yamuna and the Sutlej, which is consistent with the Ghaggar identification.Verses in RV 6.61 indicate that the Sarasvati river originated in the hills or mountains (giri), where she "burst with her strong waves the ridges of the hills (giri)".

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAQQfdto0c

 
Last week, the Haryana government changed the name of Mustafabad tehsil in Yamunanagar district to Saraswati Nagar. The renaming of Mustafabad, home to over 8,500 people, was done to brand it as the place that marks the discovery of the mythical river Saraswati. Haryana’s first BJP government, headed by Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar, has sanctioned Rs 500 million for the excavation of the river. Construction of a palaeo-channel, digging of borewells, carbon-dating and other works have already been initiated.

The BJP and NDA have always been enthusiastic about “finding” the lost river. In 2002, the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government gave the job to a high-power panel headed by Culture Minister Jagmohan, with 36 months to complete the project. Two years later, the UPA came to power and scrapped the project. The Modi government intends to revive it, with the Ministry of Culture as the nodal agency and the ASI as the implementation agency.

http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/the-elusive-saraswati-what-the-long-search-has-found/

March 9, 2016

Now I see the political angle. An Archaeological project is turned on its head to politicise it.
What a waste of money and time for show and tell project.


So basically invent a solution for the non-existing problem to further a political agenda.


I am going to withdraw from the thread.
I assumed that ISRO was involved it might be a scientific quest.
I should have known better.

Whether a river existed or not...money should not be wasted trying to prove its existence.

The money can be used to help poor farmers.
 
Whether a river existed or not...money should not be wasted trying to prove its existence.

The money can be used to help poor farmers.

Agreed fully. It is a regrettable trend today to waste huge amounts in publicity and tokenism, which could have been spent for the betterment of poor. The recent proposal for exorbitant increase in the emoluments of Judges and Legislative members of Some States is appalling.
Lakhs of rupees are spent by Election bound States on Advertisements in newspapers, the reach of which is limited to selective readers. What for ?

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.
 
Most of us know that the Malaysian Government is spending millions and millions every year to find out the fate of MH 370

Now, a couple of days back that was another news that this job is entrusted with a US firm with a Multi-Million dollar deal and this is to find out the missing Air Craft…


Now, I may be taken to task for mentioning all this multi million dollars spent by the Malaysian Government…. to find out the lost Air Craft.


Here at India, some of the Government viz the elected Governments. the Government of India, Government of Rajasthan and the Government of Haryana who have perhaps committed, are spending money to establish the existence of this river…


It is religion, it is science and now it is politics….


And above all it is quest…..!!
 
Most of us know that the Malaysian Government is spending millions and millions every year to find out the fate of MH 370

Now, a couple of days back that was another news that this job is entrusted with a US firm with a Multi-Million dollar deal and this is to find out the missing Air Craft…


Now, I may be taken to task for mentioning all this multi million dollars spent by the Malaysian Government…. to find out the lost Air Craft.


Here at India, some of the Government viz the elected Governments. the Government of India, Government of Rajasthan and the Government of Haryana who have perhaps committed, are spending money to establish the existence of this river…


It is religion, it is science and now it is politics….


And above all it is quest…..!!

Yes..lost aircraft becos of lost lives whose families need closure.

Just imagine if it was your own flesh and blood in that plane and you have no idea if they are dead or alive and where their bodies are if they are dead.

You cant even have a funeral for them becos you would have no idea if they are even dead.

I hope you understand the difference...just for info there was also an indian citizen on that aircraft if this helps you to develop sympathy.

Yesterday even my mum was telling me that government is spending money for MH 370..so i told her..thats not spending in vain.
Its worth every cent when it can give closure to families and give the victims are decent funeral if we.could find their bodies.

Farmers in India commit suicide becos of drought and losses.

The money for locating the river Saraswati can be used for irrigation projects for these farmers.
Let it be like Bhagiratha who brought Ganga to earth..lets farmers have water.

And let my government find the bodies of the victims of MH 370 to let their souls rest in peace...as a tax payer I am not complaining at all cos I feel the loss for human lives and understand what closure is for families.
 
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Before proceeding further on this, can anyone furnish the millions of dollars spent so for on this hunting

There are not less than twenty four countries involved...several thousand kilometers

Japan is engaged is search operation......

Australia is spending on their part there was row between the two Governments on this

China is spending through the search exercise

U.S. is also involved

And everybody know that it is a very costly exercise

Lot of manpower along with Ships, Aircrafts, Boats, etc are involved.

And no one can give an account as to how much million dollars have been spent collectively or individually

There is no idea as to how much will they spend in future.

It is about a search of a lost Aircraft..

The topic is about search of a lost river… without involving no other country.

Water is an important source for human living…

The efforts may be because…

it is mentioned in ancient text

it is considered holy.

Governments have committed to the public

And there are lot of reasons and talking sentiments here is ………………..???
 
Some of us are terribly defensive. This victim syndrome has to stop.
India or Indians are not victims, they are strong and prosperous. It does not need some of its defenders to launch fireballs at others, who write any critical opinion.
 
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Before proceeding further on this, can anyone furnish the millions of dollars spent so for on this hunting

There are not less than twenty four countries involved...several thousand kilometers

Japan is engaged is search operation......

Australia is spending on their part there was row between the two Governments on this

China is spending through the search exercise

U.S. is also involved

And everybody know that it is a very costly exercise

Lot of manpower along with Ships, Aircrafts, Boats, etc are involved.

And no one can give an account as to how much million dollars have been spent collectively or individually

There is no idea as to how much will they spend in future.

It is about a search of a lost Aircraft..

The topic is about search of a lost river… without involving no other country.

Water is an important source for human living…

The efforts may be because…

it is mentioned in ancient text

it is considered holy.

Governments have committed to the public

And there are lot of reasons and talking sentiments here is ………………..???

Its not about sentiments here..its about logic and obligation.

To be human is to feel human.
 
Its not about sentiments here..its about logic and obligation.

To be human is to feel human.


You may say so, and you are entitled to your opinion.

But there are critics who say that this much amount spent on can be better spent...

And here is the article appears a couple of days back..

[h=1]Another Search Begins for Long-Missing Malaysian Airliner[/h]
That comes to about $660,000 for each missing passenger and crew member. Critics of the prolonged search have said the money could have been better spent.

Yes, it could have been better spent….

.“I would like to reiterate our unwavering commitment towards solving the mystery” of the missing plane, he said in prepared remarks

It is the very same commitment towards solving the mystery of the river’s existance.

Read more at: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-ocean-infinity.html
 
You may say so, and you are entitled to your opinion.

But there are critics who say that this much amount spent on can be better spent...

And here is the article appears a couple of days back..

[h=1]Another Search Begins for Long-Missing Malaysian Airliner[/h]


Yes, it could have been better spent….



It is the very same commitment towards solving the mystery of the river’s existance.

Read more at: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-ocean-infinity.html

Ok lets dissect Ramayan...for the sake of searching a wife...Lord Rama spent precious time which led to loss of lives of Vanaras...loss of life of Vaali that too killed from the back.

This quest also caused arson to Lanka and loss of lives and finally the death of the King of Lanka all for the sake of Seeta who was abandoned a few years later.

Kya waste of time..effort..resources..energy and lives.

I think I can understand why now why you are able to calculate so well why some efforts are waste of money.
 
Ok lets dissect Ramayan...for the sake of searching a wife...Lord Rama spent precious time which led to loss of lives of Vanaras...loss of life of Vaali that too killed from the back.

This quest also caused arson to Lanka and loss of lives and finally the death of the King of Lanka all for the sake of Seeta who was abandoned a few years later.

Kya waste of time..effort..resources..energy and lives.

I think I can understand why now why you are able to calculate so well why some efforts are waste of money.

Can we take up IPKF......?? LOL
 
Agreed fully. It is a regrettable trend today to waste huge amounts in publicity and tokenism, which could have been spent for the betterment of poor. The recent proposal for exorbitant increase in the emoluments of Judges and Legislative members of Some States is appalling.
Lakhs of rupees are spent by Election bound States on Advertisements in newspapers, the reach of which is limited to selective readers. What for ?

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.

Dear Mr Brahmanyan,

As an elder statesman of this forum I respect your views. But have to disagree with your assertions.

It is usually a red herring to throw a typical objection - why not feed the poor or some such thing. This can be said against any priorities. If it is all tokenism then spending for poor can also be an act of tokenism

A society can both work to improve conditions for poor by making them more independent and also pursue research projects. Often research unique to India can reveal how to protect existing rivers, who knows?

If religion is driving this, so what - whole world is driven by religious beliefs. Political spending is happening worldwide.

Let us not critique unless there are standards to judge if spending is excessive. I have said all this without knowing anything about this issue other than what is posted in this thread

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