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how effective is our brahmin association

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shobraj97

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is it doing anything for the welfare of our community.. or just publishing a magazine and conduct free uapanayanam once a while.

it is pathetic to see the unity among our community members. i personally feel, deep in their heart they feel inferior for being brahmin in today's world/. that should change.. HOW?
 

T.S.Sankara Narayanan

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How Effective is our Brahmins Association.

Dear Sir,
I have been witnessing Brahmins Association since the past 35 years ..My father Late Shri T.K.Swami Natha Iyer was the district Treasurer of Brahmins Association in Tirunelveli Dist before 1989.He was under Treatement during his last days and he quit the post due to his in ability on grounds of age.He died on 1st Jan/90.
I am observing that ,"our association will assemble only during ,"Avani Avittam" and show a mass at that time and will disperse and assemble during the next Avani Avittam."
Even if it functions some where,it will not be High Lighted.
Even during Elections there will be differences in the opinions .One fraction will insist us to Vote DMK,while the other insist us to vote ADMK.
Because of our Dis Unity no political party never cares us.
As regards the recent 15th Lok Sabha Elections we were taught a Lesson by the Very Newly assembled ,"Kongu Peravai"that they diverted the Results in many constituencies,where their population was very rich.
The way in which our association acted during the arrest of Kanchi Mutt Supremo our beloved ,"Jeyandhra Saraswathy Swamigal"was very condemable.No fraction from our Community condemned such arragont behaviour of ADMK govt at that time.If a same act is implimented against anyother communal leaders or any other religious leaders in our state,What would have Happened?
We are the First enemies for our community.Our disunity is the first enemy for us.We never support our own enterpronurers.
Muslims will support only muslims....
Christians will support only Christians....
Nadars will support only Nadars...
But Brahmins will support all except Brahmins...
That is the fate of our Community...
Even animals are wandering in forest in gangs...
we can see flocks of sheeps,flocks of Elephants,flocks of even lion and tiger,zeebra,and all will wander in gangs but no brahmin will stay united.
It may be wounding everybody but it is fact....
 
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Srini

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well said friend. unity missing very much. we don't have a very good leader among us to guide the community
 

KRS

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Dear Sri esarkey Ji,

What do you mean? Are you saying that we have disunity amongst ourselves because of 'other Brahmins' and 'Iyengars'?

Please elaborate before I edit your words out.

Regards,
KRS

to All: It is the Truth, that we dont have a good leader,because our community mixed with other Brahmin's,and Iyengars in TB's is another disadvantage. S.R.K.
 

[email protected]

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Dear Sri esarkey Ji,

I have reread this statement and I am editing most of it out because:
1. After a generation a TamBrahmin is the one who is a Brahmin (regardless of sect) who speaks in Tamil (our own great Forum member Sr Hari1972 would not be a Brahmin according to you, neither would be Maha Periaval)!
2. Iyengars did not settle from Karnataka - Ramanuja's followers were also then Smarthas who became Iyengars.
3. Your words are testamount to why we are not united as Brahmins.

Please exercise proper caution before uttering thoughtless words as have done in the future. Thank you.


To:sriK.R.Sji,Yes we are disunity S.R.K.
 
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Srini

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How Effective is our Brahmins Association.

I wish to see all Brahmins (including Madhava,Marathi,Iyengar) under one umbrella association. I don't see any difficulties or misunderstanding with other Brahmins. Day to day basis we are mingling with all religion people and why do we need to exclude people from our own community. They too from branches of Brahmin community.
 
I am a brahmin working in Bahrain. Many brahmin colleagues have helped me and I acknowledge their help. In my opinion, we brahmins are having a tendency to avoid any problem. We do not raise our voice unless it hurts us personally. Probably this could be the result of higher degree of fear of unknown. At this rate, the next generation of brahmins will be largely isolated and unless we shed our avoidance and fearful approach, there is a risk of sustenance in the long run. Another thing is we have to slowly nurture the entreprenuerial approach which perhaps can shed our inhibitions and make us more bold.
 
How effective is our community

It is not the time for arguments it is because of this community or that. It will help we identify ourselves as one community and develop faith in ourselves. If one see that there is aleady a general
awareness that brahmins should unite and help ourselves instead of
expecting others to recognise us. Well it is a small step but it has already started. If one sees that it is also happening amoung brahmins in other states as well. We try to reach out to our community even if it is in a small way it will have its effects.
 
HOW EFFECTIVE BRAHMIN ASSOCIATION

All section of Brahmin united only under the banner of THAMBRAAS. we should not waste our time by speaking about Disunity.Now the situation has changed.Even DMK Members in local area understands our sentiments and they try to follow also.

By organising functions in the banner of association, we are in a position to prove our existance.
UNITE! UNITE! UNITE!
 
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shobraj97

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me again!!!

Thanks to those who replied their opinion...
Let us forget about 'Cross religin marriage, cross caste marriage' can we atleast start with 'Inter brahmin-caste marriages'. I mean, why are we still hessitating to marry between iyer/iyengards, mathvas/iyers. Only common link could be our language 'Tamil'. If we can do this first ,then we shall automatically unite.... can we do this.. Can THAMBRAS encourage this???

Regards
Rajagopalan
 

RVR

Well-known member
This forum itself is uniting us and we are able exchange lot of ideas. Only thing is we have to have separate cells under this forum itself to address specific problems and provide appropriate solutions. I earnestly request tamilbrahmins.com to collect areas of expertise of our members, classify under each specialised areas and whenever need arises, divert the questions to the experts. Put a leader under each cell so that he can co-ordinate the opinions and suggest solutions to the problems.
 
the views expressed by T.S.sankara narayanan is true. In our area, there is Brahmin Association. If you want to become a member the annual fee is Rs.1000 for those who occupy own houses and Rs.500 for those in rented house in the area. When I questioned the secretary the logic behind this, he could not give any reply. Because of this many of the brahmins, including myself,in the area are not members. The association meets only on avani avittam day and vinayaka chathurthi day in the year.
 

srikrish85

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Iyengars!

Dear Sri Sridhar Krishnan Iyengar Ji,

Sri esarkay Ji does not express himself properly. I probably needed to have edited his words before, but I did not do so, instead, trying to see the positives in his postings.

If he meant what you took it to be, then I need to edit those words out - which I am doing now, albeit late.

Thank you for your civilized response. And I apologize for not catching this sooner.

Regards,
KRS

to All: It is the Truth, that we dont have a good leder S.R.K.
Man u r mad about Iyengars. This shows our noble unity. lol. :) We must change our mindset.

-Sridhar Krishnan Iyengar
 
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kunjuppu

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This forum itself is uniting us and we are able exchange lot of ideas. Only thing is we have to have separate cells under this forum itself to address specific problems and provide appropriate solutions. I earnestly request tamilbrahmins.com to collect areas of expertise of our members, classify under each specialised areas and whenever need arises, divert the questions to the experts. Put a leader under each cell so that he can co-ordinate the opinions and suggest solutions to the problems.

venkat,

i agree, with reservations, about this forum uniting us.

yes, it is an avenue, for us to discuss and discard, exchange information and above all to banter.

with some self discipline about the manner and content of the posts, i am quite sure, this is getting to be a thriving institution.

whereas, expanding its scope, as envisaged by you, much as useful as it sounds, requires a lot of time and effort. perhaps one or two people working almost full time to collect and coagulate the data into proper format and usefulness.

not sure if any of us can spare that type of effort.

i am convinced that we, as presenting ourselves within this group, are a decent and generous sort, willing to help out with ideas and knowledge.

so, perhaps, if specific need arises from a member, particularly about career options or skillset polishing, these might be resolved, almost immediately.

about a year ago, there were some serious discussions about starting a college for tamil brahmins in karnataka, where we might qualify as a linguistic minority.

that discussion went no where.

on the other hand, we have not seen appeals for the type of help that you have anticipated. there may be simply no takers to all these organizational effort.

personally, i think, if we continue all current lines, and go where the flow takes us, is jolly good OK.

thank you.
 

[email protected]

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Dear Sri esarkey Ji,

I have seen you post very informative and helpful information in this Forum. Alas, this is not one of them. Usually we send out a warning that if you post like this again in the future, you will be banned from the Forum. Please treat this as a first warning.

Your reasoning that you can generalize about our own community albeit a different sect just because you had a couple of personal experiences is not valid. I do not know the circumstances, but who can say that your attitude towards them in the first place had not put you in such a place? Please understand that all our sects, in fact all Hindus are our brothers and all Indians belong to the same family. Please read the postings of others who have seen your posting and commented.

Again, we do not want to see anymore postings along the sectarian lines in this Forum from you. If we do, you will not be permitted to post again.

Regards,
KRS


To Sri KRS sir, You are our moderator and as per forum rules you can edit which is affenceive. (edtd - KRS)with regards, S>R>K>
 
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happyhindu

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Dear Sri SRKji,

Please do not judge an entire community based on the actions of a few individuals alone. In every community there are good and bad apples. It would be baseless to brand everyone as the same based on just a few bad apples. It is certainly not right to say one cannot get leadership position in ******* just bcoz a person belongs to one community. Generalizations do not help. It is like personally accusing a person just bcoz he might belong to a particular community. Hope you wud heed to this positively. Thankyou sir.
 
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I do not agree with SRK. He thinks that only iyer can help iyers. and iyengar will help iyengars. On the other hand I had a different experience during my govt service. While working in Madras (myself a iyer and straight forward officer and god fearing) and my superior at Madras ( also iyer and most corrupt during his tenure) got myself transfered to Bombay (though I have completed only 2 1/2 years out of my 5 year term) because I am not ready to follow his foot path. The pathetic part is , he is leading a lonely life at present with all his three sons having deserted him and he used to say he is being punished by God for all the sins he did .
 
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sapr333

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Shri.Esarkay/Sughavanam,

The contradictory eg. you both shared has one common point but...ie, You expected supports from the 'community members', atleast no-harm..

One recruited the same community member in his business, thinking that, same community member will do a good job/favour than any other.. One expected his own community boss to be favouring him, and when he did the opposite way, you tried to connect it with the community..

These things of staff cheating the company or boss shunting you out to 'thanni illa kadu' is common with any other folks. Why narrate this as an example, unless, we have a mindset to expect a favour, when coming across the same community person..

Fighting in between is the nature of human race and it exists everywhere.. But, unity of community is something beyond that, and is no way related to the fighting amogst..

In any one has visited the slums, day and night there will be fights in between them in the slum lanes.. Flying of soda bottles, wife beating, drunken brawls, blood shed is a daily affair amongst them.. But, when it comes to united representation, they amaze.. They unite and fight against the police harassements, and even have the power to transfer the sub-inspector of police. They unite to fight against slum clearance board.

Unity comes with a cause..Whats the cause one is looking at,here?
 

[email protected]

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To Krsji, Happy Hindu ji,K sugavanamji. Thanks for all your comments, and I understand. Hope for unity among ourselves. with regards.S.R.K.
 
dear sapr333, I have quoted the happening in real life. I never expected any personal support from the bosses (whatever faith he follows) but should not unnecessariy disturb people working under him for personal reasons. In my case it so happened to be brahmin boss at that time. That is all. For his act, I never had any personal grudge against him and even having regular contact with him during his difficult days .
 
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sapr333

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dear sapr333, I have quoted the happening in real life. I never expected any personal support from the bosses (whatever faith he follows) but should not unnecessariy disturb people working under him for personal reasons. In my case it so happened to be brahmin boss at that time. That is all. For his act, I never had any personal grudge against him and even having regular contact with him during his difficult days .

Shri.Sugavanam,

i can understand from your post that you were a very straight forward person who was penalised by your boos for being honest..But the point I was driving there is, all these things will happen in any working environment, and we should not compare those issues in line with caste or community..

Infact, my father too retired few years ago,who faced similar experiences, and missed the state govt's top No.1 engg. post.. During his younger days, as an Executive engineer, he was given Memo's by a cruel boss, for d getting done his willys jeep's flat tyre(puncture) in a road side local workshop without his boos WRITTEN permission.. And he innocently claimed Rs.6 it seems, he was handed over a show cause notice under some odd govt section n rules (to be cleared only by the minister of state), where in ,the same govt workshop used to bill Rs.12. He thought he was saving some money to the govt... but, he used to share these things to us (jokingly), when we where kids..

But no body to be blamed..He was happy and content ,that, atleast he reached No.2 slot..
 
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