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renuka

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None has solution. Every one complains and list problems. If you can suggest a solution that is feasible, possible, within the corrupt environment, controlling 128 crore people, and so on, then you should list your problmes. Sitting in USA talking about Indian problem is identical to be in India and telling Donal Trum is destroying Democracy. Can any one change that? Nature is acting according to it's own rules and no leader can change it. Even Lord Krishna could not change the mind of Duriyodhan!
Lord Krishna could have changed anything He wanted, but its just that God doesnt interefere with our Free Will and Karma.
The westerners specifically the Americans try to be on top by force. They seem to miss the obvious truth that any time it may come back on them. Such seems to be the intoxication of power you begin to think anything is possible and nothing can hurt you.
Some countries try to be on top by being intoxicated with power and money.

Some other countries is always trying to project superiorty of ancient culture.

So somehow both are at the either end of the same spectrum, sailing on the sea of delusion.
 

renuka

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The white American clowns and jokers have to understand the world is just not white america. Their ego seems to be sky high. Only that occupies their head with no gray matter.
Sravna, everyone has some form of " pride" ...some have ego of power..some have ego of spirituality..at the end of the day we all must strive to go beyond the notion of " I am this or I am that" but just Be in the Now without any trace of self projection.
 

renuka

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Prasad,

I agree that was unwarranted. My personal life was severely affected so I might have carried that here. I apologize to the forum for the burst. I will try to maintain equanimity.
What did you find so " negative" about USA that you dont seem to have any regard for the USA?
but lots of Indians especially TBs have migrated there, how is it they adapt?
 

sravna

Well-known member
Dear Renuka,

I really do not want to practice and propagate negativity or hate. I apologized for it. I will act only in accordance with my conscience which is God to me.

I find many things negative about USA and of course many positive things too. The fundamental problem with them is the ego to the extent of thinking all others are fools. I don't think it is healthy. Others also have problems but U.S. seems to be in a position to wield their power and influence over others and prevail with that negativity. That's the crux of the problem.
 

sravna

Well-known member
I may seem to project ego but that is only the outburst of conscience. I do not want to fight any dharmic thought and action or try to use power for selfish gains. If I do that then you may say I have ego. Some projection of ego is necessary sometimes for making the adharmic more benevolent.
 
Sravna,
Your solution to bad news is to kill the messenger. As if that solves the problem. I am surprised that a "so-called" higher energy person carries so much hatred, in your bad times.
Gita teaches equanimity, not Hatred towards the messenger.
Considering the vast population, divers and remote areas and the medical workers had to face physical assault, besides the country had to face lock down and the heightened situations and the misinformation campaign, India has done a good job and India do not need any certificate of approval from vested interests. Indian can be proud of their country
 

Mani_Chennai

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Considering the vast population, divers and remote areas and the medical workers had to face physical assault, besides the country had to face lock down and the heightened situations and the misinformation campaign, India has done a good job and India do not need any certificate of approval from vested interests. Indian can be proud of their country
Oct 22_2021



Truth hurts and Indians in general, due to low self esteem always blame others for any problem. This forum should not worry about America or other countries, rather suggest how and by which mean can improve the life of Brahmans(if hey allow). The idea “we are superior” notion and behavior is found in the immigrant Indians in USA (according to my friends there) - they said there are only two types of Indians in USA- arrogant, selfish, uncultured and abusive group and the other gems of knowledge and real contributors.

Also we had been invaded by Mohammedans, British and so on, thus we still have the slave mentality. We do not tolerate due to jealousy to go up and this is still prevalent in Brahman community. People who help Brahmans are indeed other castes and I have about 30 cases to prove it.



So, like Sri Goplan is doing a great service - marriage, death ceremony mantras sharing, let us collect our ancestral wisdom and share here. We can correct the mistakes, but that is how we can leave a legacy. Let us not worry about how individuals feel about other countries and culture, let the historian worry about it.



How if an individual feels about another country does not solve our problems. That looks more like political blame and that should be in political field. Brahman population is already dwindling and let us try to improve the future generation by illustrating Brahman’s achievements and give hope to younger generation. Most Brahman boys in big cities in Tamilnadu in many ways copy the other communities to fit into it even though they can not get any government help. In this forum only old people are crying wolf and venting their anger and frustration. Bright Brahmans with good hearts heart always appreciated by other states in India.

So, please list the names of the best Brahmans you know or have heard about them, list their achievements, hardships and contribution to human society. Let us create the past and present Brahman historical achievements. That will be very useful to younger generation. Rest will be taken care of by HIM/Her!



Example of arrogance : There is a Laxmi temple in Irving, Texas. It was started by about 100 South Indians (all castes) and one Yagna Rama Deshitar ( son of the brother of Sengalipuram Anantharama Deshitar) was the priest (now diseased). The temple was taken over by Gujarathis. There was one Dr. Shaw(Medical) who told in one meeting that “our Sastras do not say that menstruating women cannot perform puja in temple”. So, we should allow women to perform puja. There were many south Indian Brahman members in the meeting none opposed it. But one Dr. Ram (Tamil Brahman) asked r. Shaw- Sastras do not tell that you cannot marry your sisters or mothers, so is your wife was your mother or sister? Shaw ran away. But one Kerala PPalgat Brahman Mr Ramanathan (accountant, late) told every one that Mr. Ram is always fighting in the meetings? !! The same temple and Meenakshi temple in Houston, Texas had Mutayyaa Stapathi as advisor. He told the Meenakshitemplee authority, even though Meenakshi is the Moola deivam, Sundersann should have bigger Gopuram! This is against Agama sastra – who ever is the Moola Deivam, will have taller Gopuram. The list is a long one. The point is, most Indians with a limited higher studies in the USA fails to understand our religious believes and false standards and thus are creating a pseudo Hinduism there, which is much more dangerous than the Americans who conquered the USA when they had guns against the naive Indians. The same story is about Spaniards with gun destroying the whole South America. History is full of brutality.
 
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prasad1

prasad1

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Oct 22_2021



Truth hurts and Indians in general, due to low self esteem always blame others for any problem. This forum should not worry about America or other countries, rather suggest how and by which mean can improve the life of Brahmans(if hey allow). The idea “we are superior” notion and behavior is found in the immigrant Indians in USA (according to my friends there) - they said there are only two types of Indians in USA- arrogant, selfish, uncultured and abusive group and the other gems of knowledge and real contributors.

Also we had been invaded by Mohammedans, British and so on, thus we still have the slave mentality. We do not tolerate due to jealousy to go up and this is still prevalent in Brahman community. People who help Brahmans are indeed other castes and I have about 30 cases to prove it.



So, like Sri Goplan is doing a great service - marriage, death ceremony mantras sharing, let us collect our ancestral wisdom and share here. We can correct the mistakes, but that is how we can leave a legacy. Let us not worry about how individuals feel about other countries and culture, let the historian worry about it.



How if an individual feels about another country does not solve our problems. That looks more like political blame and that should be in political field. Brahman population is already dwindling and let us try to improve the future generation by illustrating Brahman’s achievements and give hope to younger generation. Most Brahman boys in big cities in Tamilnadu in many ways copy the other communities to fit into it even though they can not get any government help. In this forum only old people are crying wolf and venting their anger and frustration. Bright Brahmans with good hearts heart always appreciated by other states in India.

So, please list the names of the best Brahmans you know or have heard about them, list their achievements, hardships and contribution to human society. Let us create the past and present Brahman historical achievements. That will be very useful to younger generation. Rest will be taken care of by HIM/Her!



Example of arrogance : There is a Laxmi temple in Irving, Texas. It was started by about 100 South Indians (all castes) and one Yagna Rama Deshitar ( son of the brother of Sengalipuram Anantharama Deshitar) was the priest (now diseased). The temple was taken over by Gujarathis. There was one Dr. Shaw(Medical) who told in one meeting that “our Sastras do not say that menstruating women cannot perform puja in temple”. So, we should allow women to perform puja. There were many south Indian Brahman members in the meeting none opposed it. But one Dr. Ram (Tamil Brahman) asked r. Shaw- Sastras do not tell that you cannot marry your sisters or mothers, so is your wife was your mother or sister? Shaw ran away. But one Kerala PPalgat Brahman Mr Ramanathan (accountant, late) told every one that Mr. Ram is always fighting in the meetings? !! The same temple and Meenakshi temple in Houston, Texas had Mutayyaa Stapathi as advisor. He told the Meenakshitemplee authority, even though Meenakshi is the Moola deivam, Sundersann should have bigger Gopuram! This is against Agama sastra – who ever is the Moola Deivam, will have taller Gopuram. The list is a long one. The point is, most Indians with a limited higher studies in the USA fails to understand our religious believes and false standards and thus are creating a pseudo Hinduism there, which is much more dangerous than the Americans who conquered the USA when they had guns against the naive Indians. The same story is about Spaniards with gun destroying the whole South America. History is full of brutality.
Wrong information. Please do not post 3rd hand hearsay information.


The D/FW Hindu Temple was conceived by a group of devotees back in 1981. As an auspicious beginning for the formation of the Temple Society, Sri Satyanarayana Puja was performed in December 1982,. Subsequently, in 1983, a Constitution was adopted that laid the basic foundation for the management of the temple. Basically, the constitution provided for a panel of trustees and a team of officers headed by a President in addition to an executive committee to assist in the day to day operations of the temple. The constitution provided for the necessary guidelines for the election of each member of the management team and their functions.

In August of 1984, eight acres of land in the Parker County was purchased with the intention of building the temple there but the progress was slow for lack of funds and community interest. However, a facility in Plano was rented in March 1987 to temporarily accommodate the few devotees who expressed a need for a place of worship. After considerable research into the needs of the community, it was decided that the Parker County land was too far to serve conveniently the Hindu community of the metroplex. A place that is convenient for devotees from both Fort Worth and Dallas was sought. This consideration lead to selling the land in Parker County and purchasing the land in Irving in June of 1988. There was no time wasted after this purchase. The Bhumi Puja was performed in July of 1988 by Sant Murari Bapu and in November 1988, the temple operation was moved from Plano to the old house that stood on the land in Irving. Less than three years later, on April 28, 1991, the new Temple, Ekta Mandir, was inaugurated.


There is nothing called Lakshmi Temple in Irving Texas. Officially the Temple is called The D/FW Hindu Temple is also known as EKTA MANDIR.
For people who do not know Hindi Ekta= Unit, And you are sowing the seed of Dis-unity.

Most of the murtis in this Temple are carved White Marble in the style of the North Indian Temple.
The main pujari is a North Indian, to accommodate south Indian they also have south Indian priests.

Get your facts right.

I was involved in the pre-construction phase of Asta Lakshmi Temple, in Sugarland (Houston Suburb). The original Priest from Madurai was related to one of my in-laws.

Outside India, the Indian diaspora collects donations and builds Hindu Temples. Generally, these Temples are managed on democratic principles. Some Temples belong to some sects and they are run differently.
 
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Mani_Chennai

Active member
Wrong information. Please do not post 3rd hand hearsay information.


The D/FW Hindu Temple was conceived by a group of devotees back in 1981. As an auspicious beginning for the formation of the Temple Society, Sri Satyanarayana Puja was performed in December 1982,. Subsequently, in 1983, a Constitution was adopted that laid the basic foundation for the management of the temple. Basically, the constitution provided for a panel of trustees and a team of officers headed by a President in addition to an executive committee to assist in the day to day operations of the temple. The constitution provided for the necessary guidelines for the election of each member of the management team and their functions.

In August of 1984, eight acres of land in the Parker County was purchased with the intention of building the temple there but the progress was slow for lack of funds and community interest. However, a facility in Plano was rented in March 1987 to temporarily accommodate the few devotees who expressed a need for a place of worship. After considerable research into the needs of the community, it was decided that the Parker County land was too far to serve conveniently the Hindu community of the metroplex. A place that is convenient for devotees from both Fort Worth and Dallas was sought. This consideration lead to selling the land in Parker County and purchasing the land in Irving in June of 1988. There was no time wasted after this purchase. The Bhumi Puja was performed in July of 1988 by Sant Murari Bapu and in November 1988, the temple operation was moved from Plano to the old house that stood on the land in Irving. Less than three years later, on April 28, 1991, the new Temple, Ekta Mandir, was inaugurated.


There is nothing called Lakshmi Temple in Irving Texas. Officially the Temple is called The D/FW Hindu Temple is also known as EKTA MANDIR.
For people who do not know Hindi Ekta= Unit, And you are sowing the seed of Dis-unity.

Most of the murtis in this Temple are carved White Marble in the style of the North Indian Temple.
The main pujari is a North Indian, to accommodate south Indian they also have south Indian priests.

Get your facts right.

I was involved in the pre-construction phase of Asta Lakshmi Temple, in Sugarland (Houston Suburb). The original Priest from Madurai was related to one of my in-laws.

Outside India, the Indian diaspora collects donations and builds Hindu Temples. Generally, these Temples are managed on democratic principles. Some Temples belong to some sects and they are run differently.
Sorry for your information. It is called Maxalaxmi Temple. That is what DFW/Hindu temple.
 

Mani_Chennai

Active member
You can also verify that Muthaiya spathai did not put a window for the Meenakshi's Drishti on the city and later it was added. The Meenakshi's Gopuram is less taler than Sunderewarar. They did not have waster abishegam waer ot goo out. So, later they did remove it by drilling a big whole. My cousin lives in USA and he showed document.
Just because you live in USA does not mean that searching web give you information. Please visit Irving (DFW) and see for your self. You will see that marble statutes of Rama is shorter in height thatn Seetha. You will see the Moolasthanam is is not 13'x13, rather 11'x11' becuase one Dr. Boopala who on behalf of Andra society got installed a Balaji next to Marble Maxalaxmi (original offer of white Granite Maxalaxmi that can be washed (abishekam) was accepted, but the Gujrati group got the Marble statute, no more abishekam). They did not have water escape on abishekam, thus were forced to drill a hole in the wall similar to Muthaiya Stapathi's plan. They allowed women to enter the sanctom sanctorium, one woman's sari got fire and now they have gates. No Karpura Harati becasue no way to remove smoke and smudge on the wall. A big Gujarati Garba Hall in front of the Temple.
If you are wiling to deposit $100,000 US dollars in escrew account, I will come personally proof it. Are you ready. Please grow up and accept the truth, then only such mistakes could be avoided. The aother way is to travel there and find the truth.
 

Mani_Chennai

Active member
If a messenger is knowledgeable and knowingly carry bad message, he or she should be kicked out. What does the messenger achieve except to have self glorification and ego satisfaction professing he or she is a GOD fearing human being!



Even with advanced techniques, USA could not prevent this epidemic. China does not cooperate. Thus, blaming Modi as though he has a magic wand to solve COVID in India is not only stupid and impossible even if Mamata is the PM. If everything about COVID is known, prevention is possible and Modi did not take action, then kill him. Just bad mouthing about a person who wants to be in the history of great leaders as his legacy, has no explicit or implicit ability to stop this disease.



In 1906, the European plague killed 6 million people( I was not there to verify the facts) and with global warming due to rising temperature, easy travel via airlines, over population… nothing can stop this nature’s way of controlling these deaths. Also, migrants are filling the void of the dead. Even in the USA Republican majority states refuse to take the vaccination even though they all have taken –Measles-Mumps-rubella and annual Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, Diphtheria,Tetanus,Haemophilus, Polio,Pneumococcus, Influenza,Hepatitis A Varicella vaccination recommended are: as children and did not die. Stupidity has no regional bias. Science may not be perfect but at least offer hope.

India is still a 3rd world country excepting in corruption in the upper range. Even if Gandhi is alive, he will not able to stop this death. Nature is not kind to any one – either live with it or perish.
 

Mani_Chennai

Active member
You can also verify that Muthaiya spathai did not put a window for the Meenakshi's Drishti on the city and later it was added. The Meenakshi's Gopuram is less taler than Sunderewarar. They did not have waster abishegam waer ot goo out. So, later they did remove it by drilling a big whole. My cousin lives in USA and he showed document.
Just because you live in USA does not mean that searching web give you information. Please visit Irving (DFW) and see for your self. You will see that marble statutes of Rama is shorter in height thatn Seetha. You will see the Moolasthanam is is not 13'x13, rather 11'x11' becuase one Dr. Boopala who on behalf of Andra society got installed a Balaji next to Marble Maxalaxmi (original offer of white Granite Maxalaxmi that can be washed (abishekam) was accepted, but the Gujrati group got the Marble statute, no more abishekam). They did not have water escape on abishekam, thus were forced to drill a hole in the wall similar to Muthaiya Stapathi's plan. They allowed women to enter the sanctom sanctorium, one woman's sari got fire and now they have gates. No Karpura Harati becasue no way to remove smoke and smudge on the wall. A big Gujarati Garba Hall in front of the Temple.
If you are wiling to deposit $100,000 US dollars in escrew account, I will come personally proof it. Are you ready. Please grow up and accept the truth, then only such mistakes could be avoided. The aother way is to travel there and find the truth.
I have found several members of the temple in 1989-1991 time period when these incidence took place and they will agree to corroborate my statement if you donate 100 000 US $ to Mountain tribe cildren in tamilnadu? Are you ready for the challenge?
 

sravna

Well-known member
One who sends the message is of course the main culprit but the messengers situation is a bit tricky. He is just on the wrong side. So he also has to bear some of the brunt though not to that extent as the originator.
 
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prasad1

prasad1

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Festival Season Could Trigger A Third Wave: AIIMS Chief Randeep Guleria​




Even though India has crossed the 100-crore vaccination mark and the fear of Covid is ebbing, the dangers are not. This week, several countries including Russia, the UK, China, and some in Eastern Europe have observed a notable rise in Covid. China has shut schools; Moscow is going into a 7-day lockdown from October 30. But where does India stand in its fight against Covid amid the festive season?

 
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