Can English Compete Tamil?.. i mean in expressing thoughts!

[Visalakshi Ramani]

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"ondru vitta sahotharan / sahothari "??? :wacko:

Any answer for my Q?

Equivalent of the word 'cousin' in Senthamizh or Tamizh...

 

[Raji Ram]

"ondru vitta sahotharan / sahothari "??? :wacko:

It should be a single word!!

 

[Raji Ram]

.......... But is there a single word for 'cousin'?:noidea:

This is my Q...

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Onoottannaa! :becky:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

thaathaaperan!

paattipeththti!!

 

[ozone]

Always suspecting traps :suspicious:

where there is just harmless fun??? :becky:

I hope so. But I wouldnt hurry and would stay fore warned.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Relax Mr. O3! :couch2:

World is not as crooked and people :nono:

are not as bad as you suspect! :nono:

The thread has already got 5 *****

which had eluded many heavy threads!!!

See what I mean?

I hope so. But I wouldnt hurry and would stay fore warned.

 

[Brahmanyan]

Dear Mrs.Visalakshi Ramani,

வணக்கம் (no equivalent in English !)
Answer to the question is a simple "no". I think and my thoughts float in my mother tongue தமிழ், but improve and express in English that I have learnt. In fact Tamil and English do not compete but compliment each other in bringing my thoughts better.

Languages evolve and develop as per the need of the community. Language is a medium of communication and used for expressing human thoughts. It is my personal view that we cannot judge the efficacy of a language by competing with another. Each is different in structure and grammar and has its own richness and beauty. It has been found that a Language find wider usage (like English) when It accepts new words from other languages depending on its need.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Namaste Sir! ray2:

Excellent feedback :clap2:

Just as each of us have our individual style, each language has

its own style, elegance, and collection of words. opcorn:

The "Universal Recipient" English keeps growing all the time

and those which retain the concept of Untouchability dwindle

down in course of time.

We can compare only LIKE things say two poems in the same

language. We can only appreciate the UNLIKE things.

So instead of trying to find out WHICH of these is better,

it will be wiser to figure out how to use BOTH of these for our

betterment. :decision:

Dear Mrs.Visalakshi Ramani,

வணக்கம் (no equivalent in English !)
Answer to the question is a simple "no". I think and my thoughts float in my mother tongue தமிழ், but improve and express in English that I have learnt. In fact Tamil and English do not compete but compliment each other in bringing my thoughts better.

Languages evolve and develop as per the need of the community. Language is a medium of communication and used for expressing human thoughts. It is my personal view that we cannot judge the efficacy of a language by competing with another. Each is different in structure and grammar and has its own richness and beauty. It has been found that a Language find wider usage (like English) when It accepts new words from other languages depending on its need.

Warm Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[ShivKC]

Dubukku - Clever fool

Athenian fool

 

[mskmoorthy]

Possible single word answers for cousin in செந்தமிழ் (I am not sure my answers qualify to be senthamizh)

அத்தான் (aunt's son) அத்தங்கா (aunt's daughter)அம்மாஞ்சி (uncle's son) அம்மங்கா (uncle's daughter)

I am reminded of reading the book Inscrutable Americans by Anurag Mathur ( The Inscrutable Americans - Funniest Book Ive read for a review Arsala (The United States)'s review of The Inscrutable Americans another review The Inscrutable Americans - Anurag Mathur ) - the following passages in that book:

Like there are so many words for describing different forms of Snow and Ice in Yupik (languages Eskimos speak Eskimo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), there are many words for describing relatives in Indian Languages!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

How come Athenian => Clever???

Is there any story behind this word???

Athenian fool

 

[Raji Ram]

Possible single word answers for cousin in செந்தமிழ் (I am not sure my answers qualify to be senthamizh)அத்தான் (aunt's son) அத்தங்கா (aunt's daughter)அம்மாஞ்சி (uncle's son) அம்மங்கா (uncle's daughter) .........

Dear Sir,

அத்தான் / அத்தங்கா = அத்தையின் மகன் / அத்தையின் மகள்; அம்மாஞ்சி / அம்மங்கா = மாமாவின் மகன் / மாமாவின் மகள்

exist only in Tambram language! In Tamil cinema husband is addressed as அத்தான்!

Refer: p susheela athan ennathan - YouTube

I don't know if any word is there, in Tamil/ Tambram Tamil to denote,

சித்தப்பாவின், பெரியப்பாவின் (அப்பாவின் சகோதரர்கள்) மகன் / மகள்

சித்தியின், பெரியம்மாவின் (அம்மாவின் சகோதரிகள்) மகன் / மகள்

 

[sarang]

I am not clear who are these - dayadis and pangalis. These are common words to denote groups of relatives who have property rights and/or theetu.

 

[Raji Ram]

Tambrams use the word தாயாதி. Father's brothers' sons are called தாயாதிs. They belong to the same GOthram.

Of course, they follow the 'theettu' concept.

 

[Raji Ram]

Tamil has lots of very expressive words too!

Any equivalent words for the following?

வழவழா கொழகொழாவெனப் பேச்சு.

படீரென வெடித்தது.

பளீரென மின்னியது.

திடீரென்று தோன்றியது.

கலகலவென நகைத்தாள்.

பொலபொலவென்று கண்ணீர் பெருகியது.

குடுகுடுவென ஓடினான்.

மடமடவென்று குடித்தான்.

These are a few examples!!

Those who are interested to see more such words can please go through the thread, 'மயக்கி மருட்டும் சொற்கள்' started by VR Mam, in the literature section. :ranger:

 

[sarang]

Thanks. And pangalis?

Tambrams use the word தாயாதி. Father's brothers' sons are called தாயாதிs. They belong to the same GOthram.

Of course, they follow the 'theettu' concept.

 

[ShivKC]

How come Athenian => Clever???

Is there any story behind this word???

citizens of Athens are believed to be the most intelligent people. and that makes any fool born in Athens as the greatest of all fools..

Ck this , another kind


Shakespearean fool - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

I guess "Pangaali" is the non brahmin equivalent of

"Daayaadi".I have never heard a brahmin utter the word

"Pangaali" and never a non brahmin utter the world

"Daayaadi". Both these words means people who are the

descendants of the same grand parents.

If I am wrong please correct me!

Thanks. And pangalis?

 

[renuka]

Veetu Onnu Thundu Rendu

Vetti Pechchu


English cant match these..

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

How about

"Two pieces in one blow!" :high5:

and "Pointless chatter"??? :blabla:

Veetu Onnu Thundu Rendu

Vetti Pechchu


English cant match these..

 

[renuka]

How about

"Two pieces in one blow!" :high5:

and "Pointless chatter"??? :blabla:

The Kickku is less I feel !!!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

May be because the Tamil words have too many sharp " T"s

as in "veTTu" and "veTTI". Following the same concept

"Cut it into two" and "Utter chatter"

may have more kick I suppose!

The Kickku is less I feel !!!!

 

[Haridasa Siva]

I thought my knowledge of Tamil was good - till I saw this thread.:faint: I can only try Tanglish, it seems.

 

[Raji Ram]

Thanks. And pangalis?

PangALi is the same as DhAyAdhi, as VR mam has pointed out. I checked with my friend to confirm this!
How to share the wealth amassed, among themselves, will lead to 'PangALi chandai's!! :fencing: