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Bhagavad Gita - Memorization Drive !

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Nature of Lord NArAyanA - 1

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.4, 9.17, 9.18

HE is the Lord, Owner, Creator, Soul, the origin/Cause for 'all Jivas and Matter' [who are His body]

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Verse 9.4

मया तत्मं इदमं सर्वं जगत् अव्यक्त मूर्तिना |
मत्स्थानि सर्वभूतानि न च अहं तेषु अवस्थित: ||

mayaa tatam idam sarvam jagat avyakta muurtina|
mat-sthaani sarvabhuutaani na ca aham tEshu avasthita:||

This entire universe is pervaded by Me, in an unmanifest form.
All beings abide in me, but I don't depend on them.
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Verse 9.17


पिता अहम् अस्य जगतो माता धाता पितामहः ।
बेद्यं पवित्रमं ओङकार ऋक् साम यजुर् एव च ॥

pitaa aham asya jagato maataa dhaataa pitaamaha :|
vEdhyam pavitram Omkaara rik saama yajur Eva ca||

I am the father, mother, creator and grandfather of the universe.
I am ONLY to be known and is also the purifier, Syllable Om and the Rik, Saaman and Yajus.

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Verse 9.18

गति: भर्ता प्रभु: साक्षी निवास: शरणं सुहृत् ।
प्रभव: प्रलय: स्थानं निधानं बीजमं अव्ययम् ॥

gathi: bhartaa prabhu : shaakshi nivaasa : sharaNam suhrut |
prabhava : pralaya: sthaanam nidhaanam bhiijam avyayam ||

I am the goal, supporter, the Lord, the witness, the abode, the refuge and the friend.
I am the seat of origin and dissolution, the base for preservation and the
imperishable seed.
 
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Jiva's Relationship wtih Lord NArAyanA - 2

Bhagavad Gita:


Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.5, 9.6

HE is the Super Soul and Controller of all Beings/Jivas. JivAs are completely
dependent on HIM but not the other-way.

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Verse 9.5

न च मत्स्थानि भूतानि पश्य मे योगम् ऐश्वरमं |
भूतभृन्न च भूतस्थो मम आत्मा भूतभावन: ॥

na ca matsthaani bhuutaani pashya mE yOgam Aishwaram |
bhUta bhrunna ca bhuutasthO mama atma bhUta bhaavana :||

And yet beings do not abide in Me . Behold My divine Yoga, I am the upholder
of all beings and yet I am not in them. My will alone causes their existence.
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Verse 9.6

यथा आकाश स्थितो नित्यं वायु: सर्वत्रगो महान् |
तथा सर्वाणि भूतानि मत्स्थानि इत्य उप धारय ॥

yathaa aakasha stitO nityam vaayu : sarvatragO mahaan :|
tathaa sarvaNi|| bhuutaani matsthaani itya upa dhaaraya ||

Like the powerful element, air moving everywhere, ever remains
in the ether,
Like that I hold all beings in Me.

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Jiva's Relationship wtih Lord NArAyanA - 2

Bhagavad Gita:


Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.5, 9.6

HE is the Super Soul and Controller of all Beings/Jivas. JivAs are completely
dependent on HIM but not the other-way.

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Verse 9.5

न च मत्स्थानि भूतानि पश्य मे योगम् ऐश्वरमं |
भूतभृन्न च भूतस्थो मम आत्मा भूतभावन: ॥

na ca matsthaani bhuutaani pashya mE yOgam ishwaram |
bhUta bhrunna ca bhuutasthO mama atma bhUta bhaavana :||

And yet beings do not abide in Me . Behold My divine Yoga, I am the upholder
of all beings and yet I am not in them. My will alone causes their existence.
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Small correction if you don't mind cos the spelling is a bit confusing..some might confuse Aishvaram in this line with Ishvara

ऐश्वरमं is aishvaram
 
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Very nice. Thanks you for the likes and the comments. Keep doing them.
 
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Nature of Lord Narayana's Prakruti - 3

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.7, 9.8, 9.9, 9.10

Jiva's Inability to overcome the power of Lord NArAyanA's Prakruti/Creation
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Verse 9.7

सर्व भूतानि कौन्तेय, प्रकृतिमं यान्ति मामिकाम् ।
कल्पक्षये पुनस्तानि कल्पादौ वि सृजाम्यहम् ॥

sarva bhuutaani kaunthEya, prakrutim yaanti maamikaam |
kalpakshayE punasthaani kalpaadhou vi sru jaami aham:||

All beings, O Arjuna, enter into My prakruti at the end of a cycle of time. Again, I sendforth these at the beginning of a cycle of time.
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Verse 9.8

प्रकृतिं स्वामवष्टभ्य विसृजामि पुनः पुनः । [स्वाम्य अवष्ट अभ्य]
भूतग्राममिमं कृत्स्नम् अवशं प्रकृतेर्वशात्॥

prakrutim svaamvashtabhya , vishrujaami punah punah: | [svamya avashta abhya]
bhuutagrAma-mim krtsnam avasham prakrutEr vashaath ||

Prakruti, which is My own power, effortlessly controlling, I send forth these, again and again,
these multitude of beings, helpless under the sway of Prakruti.
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Verse 9.9
न च मां तानि कर्मानि निबध्नाति धनंजय ।
उदासीन वदासीनम् असक्तं तेषु कर्मसु॥

na ca maam taani nibhadhnaati, dhananjaya |
udhaseena vadhaseenam asaktam tEsu karmasu||

But, those actions do not bind Me, O Arjuna,
Like one unconcerned, I remain detached from those actions.
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Verse 9.10

मयाध्यक्क्षेण प्रकृतिः सूयते स-चराचरम् ।
हेतुनानेन कौन्तेय जगद् विपरिवर्त ते ॥

mayaadhyakshENa prakrutihi sUyathE sa-caracaram |
hEtu naanEna kaunthEya jagad vi-parivarta tE||

Under My supervision, Prakruti gives birth to all mobile and immobile entities.
Because of this, O Arjuna, the world revolves.
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Overcoming the Power of Prakruti - 4

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.26, 9.27, 9.28

The Only option that is available to overcome the power of Prakruti
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Verse 9.26

पत्रमं पुष्पं फलं तोयं यो मे भक्त्या प्रयच्छति ।
तद् अहं भक्त्य उपहृतमं अश्नामि प्रयत् आत्मनः ॥

patram pushpam phalam thOyam yO mE bhaktyaa prayacchati |
tad aham bhaktya upahritam ashnaami prayat aatmana :||

A leaf, a flower, a fruit or some water, whoever offers Me with true devotion,
I accept this offering made with devotion by him who is pure of heart.
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Verse 9.27

यत्करोषि यद्-अश्नासि यज्-जुहोषि दद्-आसि यत् ।
यत् तपस्य असि कौन्तेय तत्कुरुष्व मद्-अर्पणम् ॥

yat-karOshi yad-ashnaasi yaj-juhOshi dad-aasi yat |
yat tapasya asi kaunthEya, tat-kurushva mad-arpaNam||

Whatsoever you do, whatsoever you eat, whatsoever you offer, whatsoever you give away,
whatsoever austerity you practise, O Arjuna, do that as an offering to Me.
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Verse 9.28

शुभ अशुभ फलैरेवं मोक्षयसे कर्मबन्धनै।
संयास-योग-युक्त-आत्मा विमुक्तो मामं उपैष्यसि ॥

shubha a-shubha phalair-evam mOkshayasi karma-bhandanai |
sanyaasa-yOga-yukta-aatma, vimuktOu maam upashyasi||

Thus equipped in mind with the Yoga of renunciation, you will free yourself from the bonds of Karma,
Productive of auspicious as well as inauspicious fruits. Thus liberated, you will come to Me.
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Overcoming the Power of Prakruti - 4

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.26, 9.27, 9.28

The Only option that is available to overcome the power of Prakruti
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Verse 9.26

पत्रमं पुष्पं फलं तोयं यो मे भक्त्या प्रयच्छति ।
तद् अहं भक्त्य उपहृतमं अश्नामि प्रयत् आत्मनः ॥

patram pushpam phalam thOyam yO mE bhaktyaa prayacchati |
tad aham bhaktya upahritam ashnaami prayat aatmana :||

A leaf, a flower, a fruit or some water, whoever offers Me with true devotion,
I accept this offering made with devotion by him who is pure of heart.
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Sathya Sai Baba has further elaborated on this stanza..

What a devotee should truly offer to God is the Patram (leaf) of the body,
Pushpam (flower of the mind), Phalam (fruit of the heart), and Toyam (sacred
water) of the tears of Bliss.
 
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Sathya Sai Baba has further elaborated on this stanza..

What a devotee should truly offer to God is the Patram (leaf) of the body,
Pushpam (flower of the mind), Phalam (fruit of the heart), and Toyam (sacred
water) of the tears of Bliss.

Thanks for a nice comparison.

There are dilemmas to such a metaphor.

1. If taken literally, It would be considered cannibalistic/zombistic these days, if any parts of the body is offered or tortured.
2. People can just claim they are true internally, and don't have to prove otherwise [like most bogus yoga/bhoga, tantra/mantra gurus like the 'actor turned leader']. Thus, the latter kind may escape from the real actions/responsibilities.

Lord Krishna is very simple but clever. In verse 9.26, He expects a real offering of a leaf or flower or fruit or little clean water, not for some benefits but with true devotion. So, He meant those things literally and they are not abstract or illusory. In the next verse 9.27, He was more precise in saying, every action you do and every offering do, must be made to Him, to escape good/bad karma. This again, translates to 'Every sense-organ must function in the interest of the Lord', thus what we see, hear, eat, speak of, do, think, that our heart yearns, must be related to Him. Period.

So, that metaphor may be translated to represent the abstract functions [not physical organs], like ' Offer the functions [leaf] of our body/karma-jnana indriyas , Offer the thoughts (flower) of the mind, Offer the bhakti/love/devotion and Offer one self/bliss, to know/seek/surrender to Him'. In verse 9.28. Krishna re-instated the YOGA of total Renunciation, 'sanyaasa-yOga-yukta-aatma'.

We also have similar concepts in our scriptures like 'Maanasika Araadhana', but that means
offering complete worship/pooja mentally, ONLY in situations where the real/physical worship is not feasible.
 
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Thanks for a nice comparison.

There are 2 dilemmas if such metaphor is taken literally.

1. It would be considered cannibalistic/zombistic these days, if any parts of the body is offered or tortured.

Ha Ha Ha...you sound just like my female cousin who once asked me why I never offer flower, fruit ,water or any Naivedyam when I pray and I said what Sathya Sai Baba explained and she said "Akka how to cut out my heart,cut my body and collect tears and the mind and place it on the altar?"

I was telling her not to take the meaning literally and she still didn't get it.
 
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That was just a lol! But, nevertheless we have examples of Aghoris, and recent Zombies around the world. Never know, there are people to take literally. Just, don't leave room for people to speculate or explore.

So, do real pooja/offering, and do real renunciation through real qualities, no suspense ;)
 
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Overcoming the Power of Prakruti - 5

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 -9.29, 9.30, 9.31, 9.2, 9.33

Dual Benefit - Not only one overcomes the Prakruti , one
also becomes dear to Him.

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Verse 9.29

समो अहं सर्व-भूतेषु न मे द्वेष्यो-अस्ति न प्रियः ।
ये भजन्ति तु मां भक्त्या मयि ते तेषु चाप्यहम् ॥

samO aham sarva-bhUtEshu na mE dhveshyO-asthi na priya: |
yE bhajanthi tu maam bhaktyA mayi tE tEshu ca api-aham:||

I am the same to all creation. There is none hateful or dear to Me.
But, those who worship Me
with devotion abide in Me and
I do abide in them
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Verse 9.30

अपि चेत्-सुदुर्-आचारो भजते मामनन्यभाक् ।
साधुरेव स मन्तव्य: सम्यग्-व्यवसितो हि स:॥

api cEt-sudhur-aacaarO bhajatE maam-ananya-bhaag |
saaDhurEva sa mantavya: samyag-vyavasitO hi sa:||

If even the most sinful man worships Me with undivided devotion,
he must be regarded as holy, because he has rightly resolved.

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Verse 9.31

क्षिप्रं भवति धर्मात्मा शश्वच्छान्तिं निगच्छति ।
कौन्तेय प्रतिजानीहि न मे भक्त: प्रणश्यति ॥

kshipram Bhavati dharmaatma Shashva-Chaantim nigacChati|
kauntEya pratijhaa-niihi na mE bhakta: praNaShyati||

Quickly, he becomes righteous and obtains everlasting peace.
Affirm on My behalf, O Arjuna, My devotee never perishes.

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Verse 9.32

माम् हि पार्थ व्यपाश्रित्य ये अपि स्यु : पापयोनय: ।
स्त्रियो वैश्यास्तथा शूद्रास्ते-अपि यान्ति परां गतिम्॥

maam hi paartha vyapaasrithya yE api syu : paapa-yOnaya: |
striyO vaisyastatha sUdraastEapi yaanti paraam gathim||

By taking refuge in Me even men of evil birth, women, Vaishyas
and also Sudras attain the supreme state.

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Verse 9.33


किं पुनर्ब्राह्मणो : पुण्या भक्ता राजर्षयस्तथा ।
अनित्यम्-असुखं लोकमिमं प्राप्य भजस्व माम् ॥

kim punah braamaNaa : punyaa Bhaktaa raajarshayas-tathaa|
anityam-asukam lOkamim praapya bhajasva maam||

Then, How much more are the Brahmanas and royal sages who are pure,
are My devotees! Having obtained this transient , joyless world, worship Me.

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Nature of MahAtmAs ( Great Devotees ) - 6

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 -9.13, 9.14, 9.15

MahAtmas are those who understand the divine nature of Lord Krishna.

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Verse 9.13

महात्मानस् तु माम् पार्थ दैवीम् प्रक्रुतिम् आश्रिता : ।
बजन्ति अनन्य मनसो ज्ञात्वा भूतादिम् अव्ययम् ॥

MahAtmAnas tu mAm pArtha daivIm prakrutim Ashritaa: |
bhajanti ananya manasO jnyAtvA bhUtAdim avyayam:||

But, the great-souled ones, O Arjuna, who are associated with My divine nature
worship Me with unwavering mind, knowing Me to be the immutable source of beings.
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Verse 9.14

सततम् कीर्तयन्तो माम् यतन्तश्च द्रुढव्रता: ।
नमस्यन्तश्च माम् भक्त्या नित्ययुक्ता उपासते ॥

satatam kIrtayantO mAm yatantashca drudha-vratA |
namasyantashca mAm bhaktyA nityayuktA upAsatE||

Always eulogising My divine glories, striving with unfailing resolution,
My devotees, aspiring for an eternal relationship, worship me in devotion.
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Verse 9.15

ज्ञानयज्ञेन चाप्यन्ये (च-अपि-अन्य) यजन्तो मामुपसते ।
एकत्वेन पृथक्त्वेन बहुधा विश्व्तोमुखम् ॥

jnyAna-yajnyEna cApyanyE (ca-api-anya) yajantO mAm upAsatE |
EkatvEna prithaktvEna bhahudhA vishvatOmukham||

Others also , besides offering the sacrifice of knowledge, Worship Me as One,
characterised by diversity in multi-formed ways.
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By taking refuge in Me even men of evil birth, women, Vaishyas
and also Sudras attain the supreme state.
Dear Mr.Govinda, could please let me know the vaishyas part here...are these traders? which class of people are called as such... any why they are specifically mentioned here by the lord.
(Please dont laugh at the question as naive...)
Cheers.
 
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Dear Mr.Govinda, could please let me know the vaishyas part here...are these traders? which class of people are called as such... any why they are specifically mentioned here by the lord.

Duties of Vaisyas are described in Verse 18.44 as
'कृषि गोरक्ष्य वाणिज्यं वैश्यकर्म स्वभावजम्'
- Agriculture, cattle-rearing and trade, according to their inherent nature.

In Verse 9.32, "By taking refuge in Me even men of evil birth, women, Vaishyas
and also Sudras attain the supreme state.
", Men of evil birth - may be those born to evil parents, butchers, live among criminals etc. Even those men, by taking refuge in Krishna, can be driven towards the right path. Similarly Women (due to their physical conditions and attaching responsibilities) and Vaisyas (due to their tiring/money-bound jobs) are exceptions to practising austerity and sAttvika natures, even those can attain supreme state of Vaikunta, with the sincere devotion to Lord Krishna. As per verse Verse 9.30. 9.31, all that is required from us is to accept our in-abilities and Surrender to Him with true devotion.

As a pre-cursor to this, in the earlier verse Verse 9.29, He clarifies that He is impartial to all creation :

"samO aham sarva-bhUtEshu na mE dhveshyO-asthi na priya: |
yE bhajanthi tu maam bhaktyA mayi tE tEshu ca api-aham:||

I am the same to all creation. There is none hateful or dear to Me.
But, those who worship Me
with devotion abide in Me and
I do abide in them
.


Wow, those original verses are already in logical order.
 
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Hopeless condition of a-gNyAnis - 7

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 -9.3, 9.11, 9.12

All hopes, acts, knowledge of those agNyanis (who lack faith in Lord Krishna) are in vain.
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Verse 9.3

अ-श्रद्दधाना ः पुरुषा धर्मस्य-अस्य परंतप
अ-प्राप्य मां निवर्तन्ते मृत्यु-संसार-वर्त्मनि ॥

a-shraddhAnA : purusha dharmasya asya parantapa |
a-prApya mAm nivartantE mrtyu-samsAra vartmani|

Devoid of faith in this Dharma, those men, O destroyer of foes (Arjuna),
without attaining Me, never escape the path of mortal-samsAra.
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Verse 9.11

अव-जानन्ति मामं मूढा मानुषीं तनुम्-आश्रितम् ।
परं भावमं अ-जानन्तो मम भूतमहेक्ष्वरम् ॥

ava-jAnanti mAm muDa mAnushIm tanum-Ashritam |
param-bhAvam a-jAnantO mama bhUta-mahEshvaram||

Unintelligent
-men despise Me, dwelling/(embodied) in a human form,
not knowing My higher nature, as the Supreme Lord of all beings.

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Verse 9.12

मोघ-आशा मोघ-कर्माणो मोघ-ज्ञाना विचेतसः ।
राक्षसीम्-आसुरीमं चैव प्रकृतिं मोहिनीं श्रिताः ॥

mOgha-aashA mOgha-karmANO mOgha-gnyanA vicEtasa:|
rAkshasIm-AsurIm caiva (ca-eva) prakrutim mohinIm shritA:||

Having futile hopes, futile acts and futile knowledge, these bewildered-men,
entertain only the deluding nature of rAkshasaas and aasuras.
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Nature of other delayed paths - 8

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.20, 9.21, 9.22, 9.23, 9.24, 9.25


All paths/means other than the Complete Surrender to Lord Krishna are tedious.
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Verse 9.20

त्रैविद्या मां सोमपाः पूतपापा यज्ञैरिष्ट्वा स्वर्गतिं प्रार्थयन्ते ।
ते पुण्यम्-आसाद्य सुर-इन्द्र-लोकम् अश्नन्ति दिव्यान्-दिवि देवभोगान् ॥

traividyA mAm sOmapa : yagnErishtvA svargatim prArta yantE |
tE punyam-AsAdhya sura-indra-lOkam ashnanti divyAn-divi dEvabhOgAn||

Those versed in the 3 vedas, drink soma to purify their sins, perform the remaining yagNya
for the attainment of heaven.
They, attaining the loka of the chief of gods (sura-indra), enjoy in the celestial pleasure
of gods.

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Verse 9.21

ते तं भुक्त्वा स्वर्गलोकं विशालं क्षीणे पुण्ये मर्त्यलोकं विशन्ति ।
एवं त्रयी धर्म मनु प्रपन्ना गतागतं कामकामा लभन्ते ॥

te tam bhuktvA svargalOkam vishAlam, kshINaE punyaE martyalokam vishAnti |
Evam trayI dharma manu prapannA gatAgatam kAmakAmA labhantaE||

Having enjoyed the spacious world of heaven, exhausting punyam/merits,
they return to mortal world.
Those who follow those vedic rituals, driven by desires, come and go.

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Verse 9.22

अनन्याश् चिन्तयन्तो मां ये जनाः पर्युपासते ।
तेषां नित्य अभियुक्तानां योगक्षेमं वहाम्यहमं ॥

ananyash cintayantO mAm, yaE janAha, paryupAsataE|
taEshAm nitya abhiyuktAnAm yOga-kshEmam vahAmi-aham||

Excluding all else, those who (MahAtmAs), think of ME and worship Me,
aspiring eternal union, I ensure their prosperity (realization)
and welfare (liberation from samsara) .
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Verse 9.23

ये अपि अन्य देवता भक्ता यजन्ते श्रद्धयान्विता ।
ते अपि मामेव कौन्तेय यजन्ति अविधि पूर्वकम् ॥

yaE api anya dEvatA bhaktA yajantE shraddhaya anvitA|
tE api mAmEva kauntEya yajanthi a-vidhi pUrvakam||

Even those who worship other devatas, with faith,
Arjuna, they worship Me alone , but not according to shAstras.
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Verse 9.24

अहं हि सर्व यज्ञानां भोक्ता च प्रभुरेव च ।
न तु माम् अभिजानन्ति तत्वेनातश् च्यवन्ति ते ॥

aham hi sarva yagnyAnAm bhOktA ca prabhurEva ca|
na tu mAm abhijAnanti tatvaEna-atas cyavanti tE||

I am the ONLY, Enjoyer and the Lord of all sacrifices,
They, not recognising Me in My true nature, henceforth fall (into samsara).
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Verse 9.25

यान्ति देव व्रता देवान्पितॄन् यान्ति पितृव्रता: ।
भूतानि यान्ति भुतेज्या यान्ति मद्याजिनो अपि माम् ॥

yAnti deva vratA daEvAn-pitrun yAnti pitrvratA:|
bhUtAni yAnti bhutegnyA yAnti madyAjinO api mAm||

Devotees of gods go to the gods, Manes-worshippers go to the manes. The
Bhuta worshippers to to the Bhutas. Those who worship Me come to Me..
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renuka

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यान्ति देव व्रता देवान्पितॄन् यान्ति पितृव्रता: ।
भूतानि यान्ति भुतेज्या यान्ति मद्याजिनो अपि माम् ॥

yAnti deva vratA daEvAn-pitrun yAnti pitrvratA:|
bhUtAni yAnti bhutegnyA yAnti madyAjinO api mAm||

Devotees of gods go to the gods, Manes-worshippers go to the manes. The
Bhuta worshippers to to the Bhutas. Those who worship Me come to Me..
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I have a question here...it is pretty clear in this verse that those who worship the Pitrs go to Pitr Loka..so is there really a need to do Shraddha for departed ancestors cos that is also still a form of worship.

Lord Krishna is quite clear here that to surrender unto Him and everything else will fall in place.
 

mkrishna100

Active member
I have a question here...it is pretty clear in this verse that those who worship the Pitrs go to Pitr Loka..so is there really a need to do Shraddha for departed ancestors cos that is also still a form of worship.

Lord Krishna is quite clear here that to surrender unto Him and everything else will fall in place.

To the best of my knowledge the above verse only points out the limitations of worshiping minor gods and doing vedic karmas with the intention that it will confirm Moksha .
Later on Lord Krishna will say that Vedic Karmas are a means for purification and to maintain harmony in society ( refer Chapter 3 talking about exchange between Devatas and Yagnas performed by Humans to produce rain etc ) but one needs to not get struck in that and move towards Bhakti and Jnana for Moksha .
Once one gains spiritual maturity most of the external worship/ rituals comes down but still it is advised to continue them for the sake of Society as very few people are competent to understand the inner maturity of a spiritual person and will take his exterenal actions as proof of not doing any Vedic rituals . Even now the Shankaracharya's of Kanchi and Sringeri Mutt perform daily Chandramouliswera pujas and other rituals are followed in many spiritual Organizations even though they conduct classes on Bhagawad Gita and Upanishads .
 
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I have a question here...it is pretty clear in this verse that those who worship the Pitrs go to Pitr Loka..so is there really a need to do Shraddha for departed ancestors cos that is also still a form of worship.

Lord Krishna is quite clear here that to surrender unto Him and everything else will fall in place.

Dear Renuka,

You kind of answered yourself in the second sentence.

He says, "Those who, with the same rites of worship, worship Me, Lord Vasudeva, as the Supreme Self, whose body is
constituted of gods, pitrs and bhUtas, are My worshippers and reach Me only".

All vedic yaganAs has hymns for all gods. Also, the SandhyA(Morning Sun), Gayatri Devi has hymns on them.
All these gods attained their positions through yoga/merits. They are more powerful than us, humans.
Thus, Salute them for their powers/boons.
As, their title and tenure are limited with the yugas, they are not shAsvatham/permanent, hence
worship their inner-self Lord Krishna, indestructible, Supreme Brahman/Self.

During ShrArdha, we dont worship the pitrs, instead we worship/pray their inner self, NarAyanA, for
their and our Yoga-KshemA.

Worshipping other gods as Supreme Source/Origin, Worshipping ancestors (like doing pooja for them,
keeping their picture/ statue in the altar) and worshipping the Spirits (yakshAs, rAkshasAs etc.) are criticised.]
There is no suggestion to stop any vedic rituals or salutations to other divinities or sAttvika acts
or nithya karmAs. Instead, we are advised to perform them, with the intention, that Vasudeva is the Seat of Origin,
abode of all beings/creation, and the receiver of all sacrifices and the grantor of all will and boons.
 
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The most Secret Wisdom - 9

Bhagavad Gita:

Slokas from Chapter 9 - 9.1, 9.2, 9.16, 9.19, 9.34

The most confidential, secret wisdom, is to regard Lord Krishna as our Supreme Goal!

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Verse 9.1


श्री भगवानुवाच
इदमं तु ते गुह्यतमं प्रवक्ष्याम् अनुसूयवे ।
ज्ञानं विज्ञानसहितम् यज्ज्ञात्वा मोक्ष्यसेऽशुभात् ॥


SrI Bhagavaan uvaaca

idam tu te guhya-a-tama pravekShyaam anusuyave |
jnyaanam vijnyana sahitam yaj-nyaatvaa mOkShayase: shubhaat ||


Sri Bhagavaan says:

This most mysterious knowledge [a-tamas/non-ignorance,] I shall explain to you, who is not spiteful,
together with special knowledge, knowing which, would be freed from evil.
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Verse 9.2

राज विद्य राजगुह्यं पवित्रम्-इदम्-उत्तमम् ।
प्रत्यक्ष-अवगमम् धर्म्यमं सुसुखं कर्तुम् अव्ययम् ॥


raja-vidya raja-guhyam pavitram-idam-uttamam|
pratyakSha-avagamam dharmyam susukam kartum avyayam ||


This is the royal science, royal mystery, the supreme purifier, It is realized by direct
experience, It is in accord with Dharma, it is pleasant to practice and is abiding.
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Verse 9.16

अहं क्रतुर्-अहं यज्ञ: स्वधाहम्-अहं-ओषधम् ।
मन्त्रो अहम् एवाज्यम् अहं अग्निर् अहं हुतम्॥


aham kratu aham yagna: svadhAham aham-aushadham |
mantro aham evaajyam aham- angrir aham hutam



I am the Worship. I am the sacrifice. I am the offering to the pitrs/manes. I am the herb/medicine.
I am the Mantra. I am Myself the clarified butter. I am the fire. I am the oblation.
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Verse 9.19

तपामि-अहं अहं-वर्षं निगृह्णामि उत्सृजामि च्।
अम्रुतं च-एव म्रुत्यु: च सद्-असत् च अहं अर्जुन ॥


tapaami-aham aham-varSha nigriNaami utsrujaami ca|
amrutam ca-eva mrutyu: ca sad-asat ca aham arjuna ||


I give heat. I hold back and send forth the rain.
I am immortality as well as death, O Arjuna, I am the being (existing now), as also the non-being (Existed in the past).
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Verse 9.34


मन् मना भव मद्-भक्तो मद्-याजि मां नम्स्कुरु ।
मामेव-एष्यसि युक्त-एव-आत्मानमं मत्परायण:॥


man manaa bhava mad-bhaktO mad-yaaji maam namskuru |
maam-eva-eShyasi yukta-eva-aatmaanam mad-paraayaNa : ||


Focus your mind on Me, be My devotee, be my worshipper. Bow down to Me. Engaging
your mind in this manner and regarding Me as the supreme goal, you will come to Me.
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