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A worried woman


A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said: 'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 year old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together. So th e doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?' She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.'

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.' She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request. Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child! 'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be OK with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.' The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The crime is the same!





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Sounds similar to the famous King Solomon story. :ear:

A life is a life... born or unborn!!! :baby:

Obviously Shock treatment is the best way :shocked:

to convince rather than long sermons!!! :blah:
 
Many Hospitals in India/Chennai do not terminate pregnancy.
[h=3]1971 and beyond[/h] As per India’s abortion laws only qualified doctors under stipulated conditions can perform abortion on a woman in an approved clinic or hospital. The Indian abortion laws fall under the Medical Termination of Pregnancy (MTP) Act, which was enacted by the Indian Parliament in the year 1971. The MTP Act came into effect from April 1, 1972 and was once amended in 1975.
The Medical Termination of Pregnancy (MTP) Act of India clearly states the conditions under which a pregnancy can be ended or aborted, the persons who are qualified to conduct the abortion and the place of implementation.[SUP][/SUP] Some of these qualifications are as follows:


  • Women whose physical and/or mental health were endangered by the pregnancy[SUP][/SUP]
  • Women facing the birth of a potentially handicapped or malformed child[SUP][/SUP]
  • Rape[SUP][/SUP]
  • Pregnancies in unmarried girls under the age of eighteen with the consent of a guardian[SUP][/SUP]
  • Pregnancies in "lunatics" with the consent of a guardian[SUP][/SUP]
  • Pregnancies that result are a result of failure in sterilization
  • The length of the pregnancy must not exceed twenty weeks in order to qualify for an abortion

Abortion in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Visalakshi Ramani said:
Sounds similar to the famous King Solomon story. :ear:

A life is a life... born or unborn!!! :baby:

Obviously Shock treatment is the best way :shocked:

to convince rather than long sermons!!! :blah:
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Dear VR ji,

Believe me..nothing works sometimes....a person who is hell bent on doing an abortion will curse at the doctor who advises her not too.

I had advised patients enough times when they come to the clinic asking for abortions.

I DO NOT DO abortions as it is against the law and medical ethics out here and for me I look at it as murder of an unborn child.

But patients get angry when you advise them to keep the baby..most of those who ask for abortions are married women from middle class homes who are totally irresponsible when it comes to contraceptive cos they can not be bothered to pay some attention to contraception.

There are some Hindu patients whom after I advise them to keep the baby and not to do abortions they will turn around and ask me "are you a Christian or Muslim that you do not do abortions?"

That is the state of mind of people that a Hindu can do anything! Out here Muslim and Catholic docs do not do abortions.

Once I told a married Hindu patient to keep the baby and not do an abortion and after delivering this child she can consider contraception and she told me she was not keen to take contraceptive pills etc.

So I advised her to use barrier method(Condom) to which her husband agreed but she yelled at me saying "I am not a prostitute to be using a condom with my own husband..I come from a good family" and she stormed out of my room angrily saying she will never come back ever to see a useless doctor who wont do an abortion but advises a decent married woman to use a condom.

I was thinking..she felt its indecent to use a condom but its decent enough to think of killing her own child!
 
Dear PJ sir,

There have been a few cases where I managed to convince patients to keep the babies and followed up the pregnancy of those women.

I somehow feel the fetus knows that the doctor managed to convince the mother to keep the child cos after birth these children are exceptionally fond of me.

Even their parents have commented that "this child which you asked us to keep is extremely fond of you"

I have noticed these kids are too loving and hug and kiss me when they come for any illness to the clinic.

I have also followed up cases where mothers did not intend to abort their kids but these children are just like other patients..not too loving.

So I am quite convinced that a fetus knows what the mother thinks and what goes on outside the uterus.
 
What about adoption? If that was a viable option with less stigma attached to it, perhaps that would be a viable option to abortion?
 
renukaji

In those days our parents never thought of abortion, if they had i would not have been born either!!
I was the 7 th Child of my parents!!

We stopped with 2 kids knowing well our financial capacity; many have nowadays one child norm, which i feel will deprive the child companionship in its later stage.
 
Dear Renu,

Of course the fetus hears and understands what is going in the outside world.

That is why the would be mother is advised to be in a peaceful and happy

mood, listen to melodious music and look at God Krishna's photos.

We know the story that Prahlada's Bhkati to Vishnu and Abhimanyu's

knowledge of the padma vyuham were given to them when they were just

unborn babies in their mothers' wombs.

Even Christians believe in this capacity of the futus. I met a look-alike of

Mr. Jesudas and his petite wife in one of my long train journeys. They are

doing research on the influence they can create in unborn babies using

infallible scientific methods and measurements. :thumb:
 
P.J. said:
renukaji

In those days our parents never thought of abortion, if they had i would not have been born either!!
I was the 7 th Child of my parents!!

We stopped with 2 kids knowing well our financial capacity; many have nowadays one child norm, which i feel will deprive the child companionship in its later stage.
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If you were not born as Mr. P.J

you would have been born as

Mr. S.J or T.J or B.J ! :cool:
 
Visalakshi Ramani said:
I met a look-alike of

Mr. Jesudas and his petite wife in one of my long train journeys. They are

doing research on the influence they can create in unborn babies using

infallible scientific methods and measurements. :thumb:
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Dear VR Ji,

Frankly speaking if you ask me..I would not want to mess with nature.

I have seen parents go overboard and even put headphones to the abdomen of the mother hoping the fetus would hear the song/sounds etc.

Nature intended a fetus to "hear" the sounds of nature that also came through the mother's mind and also directly but filtered through the uterine walls.

I have no proven thoughts on this..but I feel placing headphone on the abdomen of a pregnant mother might not be a good idea cos it will higher decibels since it is coming from a direct source and surely will echo in the uterus.

We have no idea how this effect of higher decibel sound have on the fetus hearing apparatus and also to its general well being and also will the vibration of sound waves alter any growth pattern.

So till then I rather just advocate mother's well being and mother having good thoughts, words and deed and living in a peaceful environment where mother could sing, listen to music or read but NOT directly placing headphones to abdomen.

Sometimes too much research by Dr Jekyll might only create a Mr Hyde.

So best is to never mess with nature.
 
Dr. Renuka,
if i were in your place i would counsel my patient the percentage of success, percentage of complications of various contraceptives, and would allow them to make an informed decision. i hope u dont take it as a suggestion or advise against your "post". cultures vary and am not going to take your story verbatim.
 
dear Renu,

We can see that the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide combo is everywhere-

:angel:......:decision:.......:evil:

even without our trying to manipulate them into being!

You are right! It is best not to mess with Mother Nature! :nono:
 
Dear Renu,
My brother has an unusual sense of humor uncommon among doctors(?)
When a contraceptive device called loop failed,
a baby was born with the loop attached to her scalp.
My brother gave the baby an apt name ...Loopika! :rolleyes:
 
SANDHYAV said:
Dr. Renuka,
if i were in your place i would counsel my patient the percentage of success, percentage of complications of various contraceptives, and would allow them to make an informed decision. i hope u dont take it as a suggestion or advise against your "post". cultures vary and am not going to take your story verbatim.
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Dear Sandhya,

Thank you for your advise..may be I did not write the whole story..I do tell my patients what you suggested..I cut the story short to get to the point that someone views Condom usage as not decent but abortion is decent.I wanted to highlight the irony of the situation.

Out here we do give pro's and con's to patients to decide for themselves but basically most patients want the doctor to make the final decision.

Some patients even ask us doctors on our face..."what method do you use yourself as a contraceptive"..cos they feel that a doctors choice would be the safest choice.

That is why some doctors who do LASIK eye surgery are forced to do it on themselves(if they wear glasses cos patients ask them..If LASIK is save why are you still wearing glasses).

There was a contract specialist here from India who did LASIK for his eyes cos a patient asked him that question.

Even doctors who do BOTOX treatment are asked the same question by the patients.
Do you "use BOTOX on yourself"?

So I have friends who actually inject themselves with BOTOX to remain wrinkle free to prove a point to the patient.

I welcome suggestions by you.

Nice to interact with you..keep doing so.
 
Visalakshi Ramani said:
Dear Renu,
My brother has an unusual sense of humor uncommon among doctors(?)
When a contraceptive device called loop failed,
a baby was born with the loop attached to her scalp.
My brother gave the baby an apt name ...Loopika! :rolleyes:
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Dear VR ji,

If Loop fails...Loopika

If one fails to detect the father of the child..cos too many cooks made the soup...so let harmony prevail and call the child--- Harmonica
 
Loopika can become ans excellent hoolaa hoop artist

and Harmonica a harmonica artist. :)

The Kaa series has many new additions.

Radhika, Jyothika, Gopika and Deepika were the old names.

Now Anushka, Kanishka, Sikha, Mouthika, Rishika, Bhoomika ....:dizzy:
 

One couple - both software engineers - wanted to kill the fetus but the doctor advised to keep it and soon after delivery

give the baby to a childless couple known to her. They agreed but the lady did not take proper food during pregnancy and

the baby was underweight when it was born. The couple who adopted the child (male) are my friends. Now the baby is

three years old and is very active. Since the child was to be given to someone else, probably the mother did not take proper

diet during her pregnancy! How very cruel!! :evil:
 
Raji Ram said:

One couple - both software engineers - wanted to kill the fetus but the doctor advised to keep it and soon after delivery

give the baby to a childless couple known to her. They agreed but the lady did not take proper food during pregnancy and

the baby was underweight when it was born. The couple who adopted the child (male) are my friends. Now the baby is

three years old and is very active. Since the child was to be given to someone else, probably the mother did not take proper

diet during her pregnancy! How very cruel!! :evil:
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Dear RR ji,

I can't imagine..both software engineers...money isn't a problem for them.
Shelter isn't a problem for them...don't know how they can give up their own child for adoption?

If it was a poor lady who could not afford to feed her child and gives up her child hoping the child will get a better life I can surely understand.

RR ji..during acute stress sometimes a mother may develop placental insufficiency..so what ever the mother eats hardly gets to the child..such children are born underweight.

The mother would have been stressed up during pregnancy(since she did not want the child) and the child ended up underweight.
 
The mom to be did not want to harbor the child in her womb

but was forced to do so by a humanitarian doctor.

The constant " love-hate policy" or the "exist-evict struggle"

must have affected the child's normal growth. :tsk:
 
The real problem in having a child is
not money, not space, not time, not energy
but total indifference and shortsightedness.

A child means responsibility, commitment,
dedication, devotion and sacrifices.

Most youngsters are not ready for this.

They think a child curbs on their freedom,
enjoyment, pleasures and their social lives.
 
renuka said:
......... I can't imagine..both software engineers...money isn't a problem for them.
Shelter isn't a problem for them...don't know how they can give up their own child for adoption?........
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Dear Renu,

Money was in excess but time to take care of the new born was a problem to the parents! Actually the girl who adopted the

child is known to me for many years. Very nice girl but could not conceive due to some problem. The lady doctor who tried a

few hormone treatments which did not succeed in this girl's case got the idea to suggest for adoption. Since both the real and

adopting mother were 'look-alike's and the child resembled his mother, it was too good! The under weight baby was given special

formula but it made him like a tiny giant. After discontinuing the formula food, he became normal! It was amazing to see how a
formula food could make him so heavy that we found it difficult to hold him in our arms! :ballchain:

The real mother does not know who is bringing up her baby!
 
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