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Tantra, mantra, or simple logic?

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People flocked to the house of Panditji (who passed away on April 1, 2015, but who I don't name here), next-door to mine, at all hours. They came once, then again, bringing relatives and friends along. I knew he was an astrologer of sorts, but not being a believer in it, I couldn't ever under-stand people's craze. I often asked him: "What do you tell the people, that they become your followers forever after?" "Why don't you come one day and see for your-self," he replied.


The opportunity came soon. As I opened the door to pick up the newspaper one morning, I saw an elderly man at the gate, struggling with the latch. Seeing me he asked: "I have been waiting out a long time, do you know if Panditji is in?" I opened the gate and rang the bell. Panditji opened the door himself. As soon as the man saw him, he fell at Panditji's feet.

"Array, aap kya kar rake hain", Panditji said. "Panditji, you can save me. I've come a long way." I was intrigued and looked at Panditji as if to re-mind him of his promise. He understood, and asked me to come in. "Now," he said, sitting down, "What's troubling you so much to have brought you to my door so early in the morning?" The man looked hesitantly at me. "Don't worry, she helps me. Be free to speak."


"Panditji," he said, touching his feet again, "I have a great problem only you with your extraordinary powers can help me." And, he took out a small purse. "A small dakshina." "Keep it aside, now tell me." "Well prabhu, it's my wife. I am sick of her, I can't bear her anymore. Please rid me of her."

"You wish her dead?" queried Panditji, aghast.The man kept quiet, and Panditji closed his eyes, bent his head and sat in silence and so completely immobile I wondered if he had gone into a trance. At last, he raised his head and said. 'Well, when you want to rob someone of life, you have to pay the price?"


"Yes," he said eagerly, his hand creeping into to his pocket again. "Not in terms of mon-ey. Human life is far more precious, and money can never pay for it. You've to pay a different kind of price. According to my deductions, your wife has 10 more years of life left to her, and you have 13. If she died now, she would be robbed of 10 years of life. You shall have to pay for those from the years left to you. So, after her death you will live for only three more years." "What are you saying prabhu? What use is any-thing to me if I have just three more years to live, just three years? I am 50, I don't want to die yet." "Ah-a, Ah," said Panditji. "So you only want her dead?" The man hung his dead. Panditji lapsed into silence again. 'Well, there is another way out. When you married her according to Hindu rites, she became your ardhangani, right? If she dies now by your wish, half of you will die too. The moment she dies, half your body will be paralysed." The man's pallor was horrible. "No, no, I can't bear that. Oh, please..."


'Well, you would have a poor woman dead and you cannot bear even the thought of any pain for yourself. But tell me, why do you want her dead?"

"Because I'm sick of her. For 30 years she has nagged me. I just can't bear it. Please, at least stop her tongue, use your powers and turn her mute."
"I've a perfect solution," said Panditji, relieved. "This way you will be saved from kukaram of harm-ing your wife and also never be bothered by her voice. I shall turn you deaf. So totally and complete-ly that you'll not hear anything unpleasant, from your wife or anyone else."

The man stood up and started edging towards the door. "Sit down," Panditji held his hand. "You've given me dakshina, and in return I shall give you a budhi mantra. Never forget that every time you de-liberately try to harm anyone, you shall have to pay. Now, go home, meditate, pray and think over what I've said. Hopefully, you will understand things in the right perspective."

I still don't believe in mantra or tantra, but I have joined Panditji's admirers.
Tantra, mantra, or simple logic? - The Hindu

I like this Panditji.
 
Sir,
I still don't believe in mantra or tantra, but I have joined Panditji's admirers.

Panditji's balanced approach along with reality of logic attracted me very much.
 
But what about the nagging? It has still not stopped!LOL


If I were the Pandit j..I would have done the same but advised the man to get a chinna veedu so that he wont have to spend much time at home with his nagging wife.

Then the wife too would come see the Panditji to ask why her husband is never at home these days and I would have advised her to get a make over and become beautiful and attractive again and who know she might get a new guy.

So you see the business will keep increasing..what is the use just giving one advise and get just one Dakshina?LOL

One has to make sure the mega serial never ends so that the Dakshina keeps coming..cos after a while of having a chinna veedu the guy is bound to run to the Pandit ji again for advise!LOL
 
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But what about the nagging? It has still not stopped!LOL
If I were the Pandit j..I would have done the same but advised the man to get a chinna veedu so that he wont have to spend much time at home with his nagging wife.
Then the wife too would come see the Panditji to ask why her husband is never at home these days and I would have advised her to get a make over and become beautiful and attractive again and who know she might get a new guy.
So you see the business will keep increasing..what is the use just giving one advise and get just one Dakshina?LOL
One has to make sure the mega serial never ends so that the Dakshina keeps coming..cos after a while of having a chinna veedu the guy is bound to run to the Pandit ji again for advise!LOL

That is precisely the point I wanted to make. Panditji did not give even half a solution. The nagging continued and the poor fellow one day croacked of elevated BP and an episodal cardiac failure. So Panditji failed.

Renukaji's solution is the best. A chinna veedu was the best solution for the man and similarly another chinna veedu for the woman in course of time. That would have been great indeed. The Panditji would have become a disciple of the man and woman.

Renukaji, you are capable of a lot of lateral thinking. LOL.
 
But what about the nagging? It has still not stopped!LOL


If I were the Pandit j..I would have done the same but advised the man to get a chinna veedu so that he wont have to spend much time at home with his nagging wife.

Then the wife too would come see the Panditji to ask why her husband is never at home these days and I would have advised her to get a make over and become beautiful and attractive again and who know she might get a new guy.

So you see the business will keep increasing..what is the use just giving one advise and get just one Dakshina?LOL

One has to make sure the mega serial never ends so that the Dakshina keeps coming..cos after a while of having a chinna veedu the guy is bound to run to the Pandit ji again for advise!LOL


If the chinna veedu is more nagging than the wife, what will he do? He has to look for chinna veedu - mark II - and so on.

Both the Pandit and the Doctor have not looked into the real reason for the nagging.

The Pandi didn't ask the bhktha the reason for nagging. When nagging is the reason, and the reason is not known, the problem will stay for ever.

Fortunately, the poor soul has not sought any solution from members of this forum.:lalala:
 
Both the Pandit and the Doctor have not looked into the real reason for the nagging.


Dear Chandru,

I will explain my personal opinion on nagging.

Before that since I am a female..I would have first hand knowledge in this!LOL

I have noted that once a person becomes a nagger she is always a nagger...starting to wonder if nagging has a gene theory!LOL

Nagging get worse after menopause!

Its simple maths actually...before menopause a woman has more estrogen and very less testosterone..after menopause the estrogen levels drop..so the estrogen: testosterone ratio is altered..that is even though there is no rise in testosterone but the altered ratio means that testosterone is relatively less "inhibited" by estrogen now..so masculine tendencies of trying to exert influence increases in a female and we will see post menopausal females trying to be control freaks and start nagging even more in that process.

But very few females would want to admit this..they will usually keep blaming their husbands for everything..now coming to a male.

As a male ages..his testosterone decreases..so again the altered ratio of testosterone:estrogen makes a slight tilt and the estrogen is less inhibited by the low levels of testosterone..so you would find aging males getting a bit more gentle and cant stand nagging and will be suffering in some corner in the house reading the newspaper over and over again to just shut his ears to the constant nagging.

Here again the male would not want to admit that its all HORMONES cos all males imagine they are ever green even though the shade of green has faded!LOL

So solution?

One has to admit that hormonal changes can alter ones perception of a situation and both males and females should strive for hormonal equilibrium at an older age..that is both have to be honest enough to admit their flaws and try to retain their femininity when it comes to love and masculinity when it comes to logic.
 
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The chkkupodi in our Hindu life system is the 'Dhyana'.
Alwan

In the present context, the best chokkupodi in any life system is more 'dhana' not 'dhyana'. All the nagging arises because the husband is not making more money.
 
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In the present context, the best chokkupodi in any life system is more 'dhana' not 'dhyana'. All the nagging arises because the husband is not making more money.
More Dhana and Daan to spouse.

Back to the OP. The husband asked for advice and he got it. When the wife needs the advice that will be a different post.
Renekaji,
I suppose when a patient comes to you with an ailment I suppose you treat the patient, and not the spouse and others in the family. A squeaky wheel gets the attention.
 
Renekaji,
I suppose when a patient comes to you with an ailment I suppose you treat the patient, and not the spouse and others in the family. A squeaky wheel gets the attention.

Dear Prasad ji,

It depends what ailment it is...if it a Sexually Transmitted Disease..I will have to investigate and find the source of infection and will eventually treat the spouse too who could have been the source of the infection or even the innocent victim who get infected...its mandatory by the law to treat the spouse too.

In cases of communicable disease like TB..if a person has TB..the family members need to be called for screening and be treated if they too have TB.
 
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