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SANDHYAVANDHANAM Related

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"I will not be answering your next post as you appear to be prejudiced about vaishnavites and their faith. God bless you with enlightenment. "

Against such a prejudiced and closed mind, I shall not waste my breath. "When the boys came out to play, Georgie Porgie ran away"!

'Bye, poor Porgie.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer
 

Vaagmi

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"I will not be answering your next post as you appear to be prejudiced about vaishnavites and their faith. God bless you with enlightenment. "

Against such a prejudiced and closed mind, I shall not waste my breath. "When the boys came out to play, Georgie Porgie ran away"!

'Bye, poor Porgie.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

LOL. I am amused. Thanks.
 

mkrishna100

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In continuation of post #5:

The whole prayer of Gayatri has been trivialized here by stressing what is not important, by even mocking at the practice of sandhyavandanam etc., So summarily the following is the gist of the importance of this nityakarma. This is for those who believe in vedas, believe in the wisdom of Sastras and elders. Not for those who would like to do a dukhrinjkarane of everything and waste time.

1. The opener of this thread has not answered my questions. So I give here the answers myself presuming a few things.

Argya, Pranayama, Gayatri -avahana, dhyana etc., upasthana etc are well explained in readily available books and one needs to get the right book and learn them. In case of doubt one can always reach an acharyan for clarifications and meanings. Whether one is a Vajasaneyin, a Rigvedin or a Samavedin the details of performing the sandyavandanam varies depending on his sampradaya.

In todays life of a brahmin grhasta, with all his other engagements and yet to chant 108 Gayatri three times a day may be a difficult thing to adhere to. So one can chant as many as he can in the time that is available.

To the one who asked what were the brahmins doing before Viswamitra the answer is this. The Gayatri existed even before Viswamitra. It is not as if Viswamitra bringing out of his intellect wrote down the Gayatri first time on a palm leaf and then it was published to the humanity. The Rishis are called drishtas of mantra. They visualised and grasped the preexisting knowledge called the mantra and captured it and gave it to humanity. So perhaps the humanity did not perceive the mantra before Viswamitra and after him they did that and benefited. There might have been many other such drishtas of the same mantra too who lived at different times in the continuum called time. Period.

Vaishnavites follow the golden rule of "sruthi smritir virodedhu srutireva gareeyasi".

For us the all-consuming ananyaprayojana bhakti or love for God is more important than the ritualistic discipline. Even in the performance of sandyavandana vaishnavites perform it because it is a nityakarma ordained by scriptures. They give more importance to the chanting of Tirumantram than the chanting of Gayatri. Even during the three times sandyavandana, they chant the Tirumantram more number of times than the Gayatri. Their belief is that the Tirumantram is more important than the Gayatri.

We interpret "Gayatri chandasam mata" as Gayatri is the mother of all chandas (syntactic expression of thoughts in written down form in any language) and just that. Nothing more.

Source: Interpretation of Tirumangai Azhwar's "பெற்ற தாயினும் ஆயின செய்யும்.......நலம் தரும் சொல்லை நான் கண்டுகொண்டேன் நாராயணா என்னும் நாமம்" by learned acharyas. They interpret பெற்ற தாய் here as Gayatri mantra because Gayatri is chandasaam maata and it does a lot of good (ஆயின செய்யும்) to one who chants it regularly. Hence vaishnavites during every sandyavandanam chant Tirumantram more number of times than Gayatri. They do not give up Gayatri either because of its value and the scriptural injunction.

So the answer to the opener is:

Do sandyavandana regularly three times a day without fail. It is complete only when you perform all the processes involved. As for Gayatri chanting, chant as many as you can in the time you allocate for this. Try to know and understand the meaning of the mantras as that will increase your shraddha. If you are a vaishnavite chant Tirumantra at the end enough number of times and it is simple. Every pranayama you do during the sandyavandana helps you clean up your lungs and strengthen your breathing and circulation system. These are fringe benefits. It is a great treasure that our culture has endowed us with. Better not to ignore it. All the best.


This is the key and I concur with it . Just one doubt - when you chant the Tirumantra , do you chant it as a separate sadhana after doing the Sandhyavandanam or is it part of the Sandhya Vandanam for Vaishnavites and how many times must one chant the Tirumantiram ? Is there a minimum prescribed number ?
 
"I am amused. Thanks. "

Glad to know there is life after desertion.

The nursery rhyme goes:

Georgie Porgie Pudding and Pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry;
But when the boys came out to play
Geogie Porgie ran away.

Regards,

S Narayanaswamy Iyer
 

Vaagmi

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"I am amused. Thanks. "

Glad to know there is life after desertion.

The nursery rhyme goes:

Georgie Porgie Pudding and Pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry;
But when the boys came out to play
Geogie Porgie ran away.

Regards,

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

Some jokers keep on entertaining non-stop even if the audience is yawning and is falling into a slumber. LOL. I enjoy this. Keep it up.
 

Vaagmi

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This is the key and I concur with it . Just one doubt - when you chant the Tirumantra , do you chant it as a separate sadhana after doing the Sandhyavandanam or is it part of the Sandhya Vandanam for Vaishnavites and how many times must one chant the Tirumantiram ? Is there a minimum prescribed number ?

I have already explained.

Vaishnavites consider Tirumantram as sacro sanct. So when a vaishnavite chants gayatri as part of Sandhyavandanam
He chants more of Tirumantram than Gayatri. It is the last process in the process flow of sandhyavandanam. He chants Tirumanthram and then winds up the prayers with sAtvika Thyaga and the following sthothra with his hands above his head in the praying stance(தலைக்கு மேல் கைகளைக் கூப்பித் தொழுது).

ஸ்ரீரங்க மங்களநிதிம் கருணாநிவாஸம்,
ஸ்ரீ வேங்கடாத்ரி சிகராலய காளமேகம்
ஸ்ரீ ஹஸ்திசைல சிகரோஜ்வல பாரிஜாதம்
ஸ்ரீசம்நமாமி சிரசா யதுசைலதீபம்.

You can get the info in detail from any standard book on sandyavandanam.
 
My dear Brahmachaaris and fellow-gruhasthaas

Om namo ganesha shaaradaa gurubhyo namaha
Om shree maathre namaha
Om namah shivaaya
Om namo bhagavathe vaasudevaaya
Sarvebhyo braahmanebhyo namo namaha

Please let me share with you one or two tips learned from my grandfather, father, brother, and other elders re practice of sandhya-vandanam. Feel free to reject part or all of this, or to modify as you deem fit.

(1) Make time. Don't let worldly needs squeeze out your time for spiritual needs. You have 24 hours per day. Put them to maximum beneficial use.

(2) Gruhasthaas I know, and I myself, find we need about 25 minutes for praatha sandhyaa, about 16 minutes for maadhyaahnikam, and about 20 minutes for saayam sandhyaa. Samidaa-daanam and aupaasanam will take about 15 minutes each. We discovered that getting up two hours before sunrise each day helps tremendously. This has become a habit now.

(3) If time is pressing on work-days and on school-days, postpone samidaa-daanam and aupaasanam to Sundays and public holidays.

(4) If you are rusty in your nithya krarmas, consult your practising male relatives, family vaadhyar ,or any elder willing to listen and to teach you with sympathy and patience.

(5) Counting up to 108, 32, 64 is relatively easy. You have two hands. That means two thumbs and eight fingers. Stretch your open palms in front of you.

(6) Place the tip of your right thumb at the middle joint of your ring finger , i.e. just above where you would wear a ring or a darbha pavithram. Say "One." Move the tip of your thumb lower -- to the lowest joint, touching your ring/pavithram. Say :Two".

(7) Move left sideways to the base of your little finger. Say "Three". Move up to the middle joint. Say "Four.". Move up to the top joint. Say "Five". Move right, to the top joint of your ring finger. Say "Six".

You are well on your way now. A few more steps to reach "Ten".

(8) Move right to the top joint of your middle finger. Say "Seven". Move right to the top joint of your index finger ("all-kaatti viral" in Tamil). Say "Eight". Move down to the middle joint. Say "Nine". Move down to the lowest joint. Say "Ten."

Easy, wasn't it? And fun? Pause a while to take a deep breath, then work methodically backwards to the starting point to reach "Twenty". This is how it goes.

(9) Stay with the tip of your right thumb at the base of your index finger, and say "Eleven". Move up to the middle joint and say "Twelve". Move up to the top joint and say "Thirteen". Move left to the top of your middle finger and say "Fourteen".

You probably would already have got the gist by now. But please continue.

(10) Move left to the top joint of your ring finger and say "Fifteen". Move left to the top joint of your little finger and say "Sixteen". Move down to the middle joint and say "Seventeen". Move down to the bottom joint and say "Eighteen".

(11) Move right to the bottom joint of your ring finger and say "Nineteen". Move up to your starting point and say "Twenty".

You have now done one round, albeit with some difficulty at first. Congrats! Now count "One" by touching the top of your LEFT thumb to the middle joint of your LEFT ring finger. This means you have already done one round of 20 chants.

So, please proceed to the next round of 20 chants, using the right hand. When done, move the tip of your left thumb down to touch the bottom of your LEFTHAND ring finger to indicate "Two" rounds are done. Carry on till all five rounds are done, indicating completion of chanting 100 gaayathris. Use your right hand to count chanting of another eight gaayathris. You would have performed chanting 108 as required for praatha sandhyaa-vandanam.

Take time to get acquainted with and to practise this new form of counting up to 20 with each hand, i.e. up to 400 in all using both hands. Comes in useful when chanting 1008 gaayathris on the day after upaakaarma (aavani avittam).

(12) I found that performkng both praatha-sandhya and maadhyaahnikam one after the other in the morning left me with time for other worldly needs, as I did not have to interrupt my work/studies to perform maadhyaahnikam.

(13) Unless your family observes "madi", it will be adequate if you wore the same veshti-uttareeyam set for both moning and evening sandhyaas. You need to bathe before both sandhyaas, though.

(14) Keep your chombu, panchapaathra-uddarani, thaambaalam, veshti-uththareeyam, pavithram, darbha, vibhoothi/thirumann, chandanam, kumkumam, spare poonools, palaka, all in a regular place, so you need not rush about to find them when needed.

Om namah savithre, jagatheeka chakshushe......virincha-naaraayana-shankaraathmane. Kaayenavaacha.... shreeman naaraayanaayethi samarppayaami.

Namaskaarams

S Narayanswamy Iyer
 
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