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query regarding death ceremony and shraddham
- Thread starter Ragini
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இந்த வரசைப்படி கர்த்தா செய்யலாம்.
KARTHRU KRAMAMS; Persons who can do Pithru Karmas.
(1) Eldest son (puthran) If there are twins the person born second is the eldest. If there are sons through each of his several wives the one who is the eldest is the eldest son. If after taking a boy on adoption, a son is born the biological son is the eldest.
(2) Grand son The son of the deceased person's son.(pouthras)
(3) Prapouthras= The sons of Pouthras.
(4) DATHAN= the son who has been adopted. and the son who has been given for adoption. ( the person does the karma for his own biological father)
(5) The sons of the datthans.
(6) DANAHARI DAUHITRA=The son of the daughter who will be getting the properties of the deceased.
(7) DHANA GRAHANA ABHAVEPI= Even if no properties are got by a daughter , that daughter's son.
(8) PATHNEE= The wife who had married him as per proceeders. For women : If the deceased is a female member and if there are no karthas ae per items as above from 1 to 7 . Husband= The person who has married her as per proceedures laid out in the scriptures; Sapathni puthra:-The son of the second or another wife of the husband who has married her.
(9) PUTHRI Daughter of the deceased.
(10) JYESTA BRATHA= THE ELDER BROTHER OF THE DECEASED BORN TO THE SAME MOTHER.
(11) BRATHA= The other brothers of the deceased.
(12) BRATHRU PUTHRA= The sons of his brothers.
(13) PITHRUVYA PUTHRAN= Sons of the deceased's paternal uncles.
(14) PITHRUVYA PUTHRASYA PUTHRAN The son's of the uncle's son s mentioned in (13)
(15) PITHA= The father of the deceased.
(16) MATHA. The mother of the deceased.
(17) SNUSHA= Daughter -in- law; The person whom his son married as per traditional custom.
(18) POUTHRI The daughter of the deceased's son.
(19) DOUHITHRI= The daughter of the deceased d's daughter ( who had been properly married)
(20) POUTHRASYA PATHNI= The wife of the deceased's son's son.
(21) POUTHRASYA PUTHRI= The daughter of the grandson as mentioned above in (
(22) DATHASYA PATHNI= The wife of the adopted son.
(23) BHAGINI= The sister younger or elder born to the same mother.
(24) BHAGINEYA= The son of the sister's who had been properly married.
(25) SAPINDA= The person from the same family (creed) commencing from the deceased 's paternal grandfather till seven generations before.
(26) SAMANODAKA = The person from the same family (paternal side and creed) Whonis an older member commencing from 7th to 14 th generations.
(27) MATHRU SAPINDA= Any one upto seven generations on the mother's side.
(28)MATHRU SAMANODAKA= Any one from the mother's side from 7th to 14 th generations.
(29) SAGOTHRA= Some one belonging to the same gothra (lineage)
(30)SISHYA= The person who has studied or learned vedas sastras from the deceased.
(31) RUTHVIK= Someone from the same gothram who is given dakshinai for the karma. When there are no relatives any brahmin can be asked to do on payment of dakshnai.
(32)BRUTHYA= The person who has worked under the deceased on employment basis.
(33) GURU= The guru who has given manthra deeksha.
(34) ACHARYA=The teacher who has educated the deceased.
(35) SAHA ADHYAAYE= The person who studied along with the deceased in the same school.
(36) JAMATHA= The son -in-law The husband of the deceased's daughter who is married in the traditional fashion.
(37) SAKHA= A close friend of the deceased.
(38)DANAHAAREE= The person who is getting the properties of the deceased. Any person given a share of the properties can be asked to do the apara karyams.
Hence those who have no son or daughter should determine beforehand , as per the order listed above , the persons(karthas) who should perform the karma after his death.
It is important that one should determine the person who will do the karma as their heir apparent . by transfering his weath and properties to the kartha well in advance and should be known to others also.
There is no restriction. One can make anybody his/her heir.But one must select a person after determining the person's abilities , committment and sincerity for performing aparakarmas and sratha ceremonies every year. that person will be called ABHIMAANA PUTHRAN,
While selecting the kartha the order of precedence should be maintained.and sequentially the elimination should happen before the kartha is selected.
If the kartha is not selected in the above order , the samskarams performed by the kartha is futile and it does not reach the pithrus..
It is the duty of all to make sure that we do the final rites and the subsequent ceremonies to the deceased so that the jeevan attains peace in the heavenly abode.
KARTHRU KRAMAMS; Persons who can do Pithru Karmas.
(1) Eldest son (puthran) If there are twins the person born second is the eldest. If there are sons through each of his several wives the one who is the eldest is the eldest son. If after taking a boy on adoption, a son is born the biological son is the eldest.
(2) Grand son The son of the deceased person's son.(pouthras)
(3) Prapouthras= The sons of Pouthras.
(4) DATHAN= the son who has been adopted. and the son who has been given for adoption. ( the person does the karma for his own biological father)
(5) The sons of the datthans.
(6) DANAHARI DAUHITRA=The son of the daughter who will be getting the properties of the deceased.
(7) DHANA GRAHANA ABHAVEPI= Even if no properties are got by a daughter , that daughter's son.
(8) PATHNEE= The wife who had married him as per proceeders. For women : If the deceased is a female member and if there are no karthas ae per items as above from 1 to 7 . Husband= The person who has married her as per proceedures laid out in the scriptures; Sapathni puthra:-The son of the second or another wife of the husband who has married her.
(9) PUTHRI Daughter of the deceased.
(10) JYESTA BRATHA= THE ELDER BROTHER OF THE DECEASED BORN TO THE SAME MOTHER.
(11) BRATHA= The other brothers of the deceased.
(12) BRATHRU PUTHRA= The sons of his brothers.
(13) PITHRUVYA PUTHRAN= Sons of the deceased's paternal uncles.
(14) PITHRUVYA PUTHRASYA PUTHRAN The son's of the uncle's son s mentioned in (13)
(15) PITHA= The father of the deceased.
(16) MATHA. The mother of the deceased.
(17) SNUSHA= Daughter -in- law; The person whom his son married as per traditional custom.
(18) POUTHRI The daughter of the deceased's son.
(19) DOUHITHRI= The daughter of the deceased d's daughter ( who had been properly married)
(20) POUTHRASYA PATHNI= The wife of the deceased's son's son.
(21) POUTHRASYA PUTHRI= The daughter of the grandson as mentioned above in (
(22) DATHASYA PATHNI= The wife of the adopted son.
(23) BHAGINI= The sister younger or elder born to the same mother.
(24) BHAGINEYA= The son of the sister's who had been properly married.
(25) SAPINDA= The person from the same family (creed) commencing from the deceased 's paternal grandfather till seven generations before.
(26) SAMANODAKA = The person from the same family (paternal side and creed) Whonis an older member commencing from 7th to 14 th generations.
(27) MATHRU SAPINDA= Any one upto seven generations on the mother's side.
(28)MATHRU SAMANODAKA= Any one from the mother's side from 7th to 14 th generations.
(29) SAGOTHRA= Some one belonging to the same gothra (lineage)
(30)SISHYA= The person who has studied or learned vedas sastras from the deceased.
(31) RUTHVIK= Someone from the same gothram who is given dakshinai for the karma. When there are no relatives any brahmin can be asked to do on payment of dakshnai.
(32)BRUTHYA= The person who has worked under the deceased on employment basis.
(33) GURU= The guru who has given manthra deeksha.
(34) ACHARYA=The teacher who has educated the deceased.
(35) SAHA ADHYAAYE= The person who studied along with the deceased in the same school.
(36) JAMATHA= The son -in-law The husband of the deceased's daughter who is married in the traditional fashion.
(37) SAKHA= A close friend of the deceased.
(38)DANAHAAREE= The person who is getting the properties of the deceased. Any person given a share of the properties can be asked to do the apara karyams.
Hence those who have no son or daughter should determine beforehand , as per the order listed above , the persons(karthas) who should perform the karma after his death.
It is important that one should determine the person who will do the karma as their heir apparent . by transfering his weath and properties to the kartha well in advance and should be known to others also.
There is no restriction. One can make anybody his/her heir.But one must select a person after determining the person's abilities , committment and sincerity for performing aparakarmas and sratha ceremonies every year. that person will be called ABHIMAANA PUTHRAN,
While selecting the kartha the order of precedence should be maintained.and sequentially the elimination should happen before the kartha is selected.
If the kartha is not selected in the above order , the samskarams performed by the kartha is futile and it does not reach the pithrus..
It is the duty of all to make sure that we do the final rites and the subsequent ceremonies to the deceased so that the jeevan attains peace in the heavenly abode.
kannanrajaram
Active member
The second, other sons have no rights as per this list. Are they not allowed at all?
kannanrajaram
Active member
I understood this too - other sons are allowed in rare, unchangeable circumstances only. There is a handover of the kartha permanently in very specific instances, but otherwise fruits reach the pithru only if the valid Kartha does the rituals.
There is no mention of other sons or sons-on-law on above list at all!
Lotusinsanskrit
Active member
Son in law is mentioned in the list 36 but no way the other sons are listed. So only after varushabthigam they are entitled to do every year ceremoney!?
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Satyavageeswaran
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Brahmanartham.
The Tamil Brahmin culture is replete with n number of rituals when a person passes away. Unfortunately, today the very same rituals are being commercially exploited by Tamil Brahmin priests who lust after earning a few quick bucks. Some of them claim to have learnt the vedas in "sankara matam"...
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