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Hyderabad horror

Venky adi

Member
Scene when the accused were taken to the court
why give protection to the rapists from public wrath. They should be left free and public will handle them.
Sundaram Ji,

This NOT the solution to the problem.

The offence needs to be established beyond any reasonable doubt. The accused are also citizen of the land and needs to be given protection till the charges are proved against them. It is the judiciary that deals with the offenders. Police are there to produce only the accused before the Court. Court hears the case, goes through the evidences, arguments and the statement of witnesses of both the sides. And after thoroughly examining the cases, applying the law and mind, judgement will be passed..

This is the law of this land that is practiced.

Police cannot leave the accused at the mercy of general public. The assembly of public may be considered as unlawful. The police are duty bound to produce the accused safely before the court. These accused need to go through the trial Who knows that trial may be convicted, or acquitted. And if the complainant withdraws the complaint, there wont a case. They can also be compromised. Even after conviction, they are imprisoned and are provided security in jails round-the-clock.

We elect the law maker who are supposed to ensure stringent punished to the offenders.

When three men were convicted in 2014 for the gang rape of a journalist, Mulayam Singh Yadav, leader of the regional Samajwadi Party said: "Boys make mistakes. They should not hang for this. We will change the anti-rape laws."

India is not alone when it comes to high rates of incidence of rape...this may be because of various factors one which is believed to be the awful sex ratio imbalance - largely because of illegal sex-selection abortions - means it is a country full of men. The country sees 112 boys born for every 100 girls, which is against the natural sex ratio of 105 boys for every 100 girls.

The good news is that there is higher and better reporting of rape. The bad news is that in few cases, the alleged accused are allowed to go scot free - only one in four cases of rape in India end in conviction. Perhapsthe justice system vulnerable to political pressures, money power and muzzle power, etc.

Correct me if I am wrong please.
 

Raman74

Active member
Explaining India's new anti-rape laws

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Why change the law?

Reacting to the massive protests that followed the fatal gang rape of a student in Delhi last December, the government set up a panel headed by a retired judge to recommend legal reform and other ways to reduce sexual violence.

The Justice Verma Committee received 80,000 recommendations, held wide consultations and referred to laws and research from around the world.

Its report gave many women the audacity to hope that freedom from violence and constitutional equality would be reclaimed by and for women.

The new law is a combination of just thinking about gender and existing patriarchal attitudes in society, as well as those ingrained in the colonial Indian Penal Code of 1860.

It also reflects the government's desire to be seen as tough on crimes against women.

So "outraging the modesty of a woman" remains a legitimate legal standard, though some new crimes based on a women's right to bodily integrity and to be free of sexual harassment have also been incorporated.

A clearly defined rule should have been to penalise violent, coercive activity.
Instead, most marital rape is still legal, even the rape of a "married" child, aged between 15 and 18.


 

Venky adi

Member
Stop Rapes: Need to Overhaul the Mindset

Gang rape, brutal murder, another life lost. The usual knee jerk reactions- protests and demonstrations, online petitions, candle marches-all demanding that the accused be hanged. Yes, they deserve death. But, what about the victim? Can she be brought back, can the crime be undone. Will the death penalty stop rapes? No…the rot runs deeper.

Victim blaming and slut-shaming are common in cases of sexual assault. In the recent case of veterinarian from Telangana, the State’s home minister said that the victim should have called the police. We always try to find faults with the victim, where she erred and what she could’ve done to avert the tragedy

We believe that by punishing the accused, the victim has been avenged. We also believe that providing harsher penalties will act as a deterrent and stop rapes
Awarding death penalty is subject to the ‘rarest of rare cases’ doctrine according to which a death sentence is to be pronounced only in those cases where the crime has been committed in an extremely cruel, barbaric or gruesome manner so as to be covered in the category of rarest of rare cases.

Despite several amendments, incidences of rapes continue unabated......

Incidents of such extreme depravity compel one to ponder over the reasons behind the growing incidences of such beastly acts. .....

Young children are also not spared.........

Laws alone cannot provide a solution for this problem.......

Prevention and not punishment is the solution and that requires concerted efforts on part of all the stakeholders.


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drsundaram

Active member
Sundaram Ji,

This NOT the solution to the problem.

The offence needs to be established beyond any reasonable doubt. The accused are also citizen of the land and needs to be given protection till the charges are proved against them. It is the judiciary that deals with the offenders. Police are there to produce only the accused before the Court. Court hears the case, goes through the evidences, arguments and the statement of witnesses of both the sides. And after thoroughly examining the cases, applying the law and mind, judgement will be passed..

This is the law of this land that is practiced.

Police cannot leave the accused at the mercy of general public. The assembly of public may be considered as unlawful. The police are duty bound to produce the accused safely before the court. These accused need to go through the trial Who knows that trial may be convicted, or acquitted. And if the complainant withdraws the complaint, there wont a case. They can also be compromised. Even after conviction, they are imprisoned and are provided security in jails round-the-clock.

We elect the law maker who are supposed to ensure stringent punished to the offenders.

When three men were convicted in 2014 for the gang rape of a journalist, Mulayam Singh Yadav, leader of the regional Samajwadi Party said: "Boys make mistakes. They should not hang for this. We will change the anti-rape laws."

India is not alone when it comes to high rates of incidence of rape...this may be because of various factors one which is believed to be the awful sex ratio imbalance - largely because of illegal sex-selection abortions - means it is a country full of men. The country sees 112 boys born for every 100 girls, which is against the natural sex ratio of 105 boys for every 100 girls.

The good news is that there is higher and better reporting of rape. The bad news is that in few cases, the alleged accused are allowed to go scot free - only one in four cases of rape in India end in conviction. Perhapsthe justice system vulnerable to political pressures, money power and muzzle power, etc.

Correct me if I am wrong please.
you are absolutely correct venky adi sir.. we have to uphold the law and respect the process of judiciary. But i wrote out desperately as our experience shows the judicial system and police in india are vulnerable to rich and influential thus the accused escapes being convicted and getting punished as per his crime What to do ...
 

prasad1

Well-known member
Sundaram Ji,

This NOT the solution to the problem.

The offence needs to be established beyond any reasonable doubt. The accused are also citizen of the land and needs to be given protection till the charges are proved against them. It is the judiciary that deals with the offenders. Police are there to produce only the accused before the Court. Court hears the case, goes through the evidences, arguments and the statement of witnesses of both the sides. And after thoroughly examining the cases, applying the law and mind, judgement will be passed..

This is the law of this land that is practiced.

Police cannot leave the accused at the mercy of general public. The assembly of public may be considered as unlawful. The police are duty bound to produce the accused safely before the court. These accused need to go through the trial Who knows that trial may be convicted, or acquitted. And if the complainant withdraws the complaint, there wont a case. They can also be compromised. Even after conviction, they are imprisoned and are provided security in jails round-the-clock.



Correct me if I am wrong please.
You are right sir, but in a country where Police are enlightened and Justice is swift.
In India neither is true.
Police are in the 18th century and Nirbhaya accused are still awaiting their date.
Read my earlier post #20.


You again right when you blame the people who elect Goondas like Pragya Thakur, and others.
 

Jaykay767

Well-known member
The solution to this will not come from the political class, or the police or the judiciary as cases get enmeshed for decades for justice to be delivered.

The only way is for makkal - people to educate the ones around them in each locality and work places etc..

Engage with people when you go to the local vegetable markets, traders, hotels, etc. and talk about this.

Spread awareness spread awareness spread awareness !!!
 

Venky adi

Member
'Boys make mistakes.' 'Chowmein is responsible for rapes.': 12 most outrageous statements you've heard from Indian politicians

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Whenever there's a matter of national concern, expect a politician to come up with the most bizarre statements ever
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Whenever there's a matter of national concern, expect a politician to come up with the most bizarre statements ever.

The Indian politicians have always suffered from the foot-in-mouth disease. Whenever there is a matter of national concern, expect a politician to come up with the most bizarre statements ever. From blaming chow mien as the main reason behind rapes in India to lowering the marriageable age for girls to prevent rape, we've heard it all from the people in power. Recently, the minister for Water Resources in India, Uma Bharti made a statement about atheists defecating in Kedarnath being the main reason behind the floods of 2013. A Rajya Sabha MP was also heard saying mobile phones should not be given to girls, in a statement that completely exposed how we hope to promote gender equality in the country. Do you remember these outrageous quotes from the politicians?



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Venky adi

Member
Where is self-discipline of men....??

Of course sexiest porn books are available in the market cladestinely
There are Red light areas
'A' movies like Avalude Raavugal
Blue Film in free porn sites.....!!

Above sources are prone to.......

Shocker after Telangana rape and murder case: Rape victim’s name ‘trends’ on porn sites as most searched video

Not willing to believe that humanity could stoop so low, some Twitter users verified the claims themselves.

In what can be seen as a glimpse into the perverse minds, the Telangana rape victim’s name is on the top of ‘trends’ in search results for video clips on porn websites. A screenshot had gone viral on social media where the Hyderabad rape victim’s name was most searched for ‘video clips’ to check whether any video clips of the heinous crime have been uploaded on porn websites.

The body of the young veterinarian Dr Preeti Reddy (name changed) was found charred in Telangana’s Hyderabad where she was dumped after brutally gang raped by four men. The brutality of the case has sent shockwaves across India. However, the perversion of trying to look for the video clip of the brutal rape on porn sites is disgusting beyond words. This when neither the confession of the accused nor any police statement mentions any possibility of the culprits video recording the same.

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Venky adi

Member
In Tamil Nadu Government sell alcohol..... under the name and style of TASMAC

Government's alcohol selling outlets are located at nook and corner of State...there are more outlets and they also fix target for revenue. More sales in the outlet ...more revenue to the Government.

Now, if one goes for creating awareness among the public against crime against women will that have any impact??? There may be few, who once consume alcohol, inclined to behave in an uncivilized manner, go wild and commit all sorts of offences.

Government needs to introduce alcohol prohibition.. Will the Governments...State Governments do that..??

85% crime against women due to alcoholism: NCRB
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Venky adi

Member
Men should be taught from home to respect women’: RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat

Amid the anger over the gangrape of a veterinary doctor in Hyderabad, RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat spoke on the rising cases of violence against women. Addressing a gathering at the Geeta Mahotsav, Bhagwat said that men need to be taught to respect women from home itself. He added that just putting the onus on law enforcement agencies will not help.


 

sravna

Well-known member
There has to be both fear of law and respect for women. People should be taught right from early childhood how to look at women and other humans in general. And in case they do something to the contrary and against the law they should well understand the consequences which should act as a deterrence.
 

prasad1

Well-known member
Men should be taught from home to respect women’: RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat

Amid the anger over the gangrape of a veterinary doctor in Hyderabad, RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat spoke on the rising cases of violence against women. Addressing a gathering at the Geeta Mahotsav, Bhagwat said that men need to be taught to respect women from home itself. He added that just putting the onus on law enforcement agencies will not help.


This is in GD section and nor supposed to be political, but Venkyji is posting His GUruji's useless patrician speeches.

Funny Mohan Bhagwat should speak about law and order!!!!!


At the end of the term of the current (16th) Lok Sabha, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) continues to have the highest number of parliamentarians charged with criminal offences.

Across parties, of the 521 Lok Sabha members of parliament (MPs), 106 (20%) are charged with serious offences such as murder, inciting communal disharmony, kidnapping and crimes against women.

As many as 55% of these are from the BJP (92), compared with 2% from the Congress (7), 3% from the All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK) (6), 17% from the Shiv Sena (15) and 7% from the Trinamool Congress (TMC) (7), an analysis by National Election Watch (NEW), a campaign run by the advocacy group Association for Democratic Reforms (ADR), shows.

What a bold face lier? And how is he relevant in this thread?
 

Venky adi

Member
This is in GD section and nor supposed to be political, but Venkyji is posting His GUruji's useless patrician speeches.
What a bold face lier? And how is he relevant in this thread?

Unlike other countries, India is a democratic country and general public knows well all these facts.

What was quoted by you is nothing but extracts of article published in India spend.com. (https://www.indiaspend.com/55-of-lok-sabha-mps-facing-criminal-charges-are-from-bjp/

The point is, these MPs were elected by the general public. It is their will and their wish. For example, what if A & B are contesting in a constituency. 'A' has four criminal cases pending while 'B' has forty criminal cases of grave crimes pending. Now, whom will the public choose…? What will be their choice? Perhaps it is nothing but applying the principle of lesser of two evils. Got it. Survival of the fittest!

By the way I posted messages of Mulayam Singh Yadha and Mohan Bhagat. How do you presume that Mohan Bhagat is my Guruji.

By posting Mulayan Singh’s statement, will you pass judgement that I am an active member of Samajwadi Party. LOL

You are prone to presume things and pass meaningless judgements.

Now who is the bold face liar……..???

Again when messages are posted, try to read the content of messages which are more relevant to the topic, repeat relevant to the topic and NOT the individual behind it.
 
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Raman74

Active member
Legalising prostitution or pornography will not bring down rapes. This is why the argument is flawed

Some people have suggested that prostitution should be made legal in India and the ban on pornography should be lifted to make India safer for women. Apparently taking these two steps could reduce the number of rapes in India. The argument is flawed and reflects the lack of understanding of the problem, which appears to have become an epidemic in India.

The only thing that binds prostitution, pornography, and rape is the apparent element of sex. However, just because there is one element common in all three, it doesn’t mean that they are all heavily dependent on each other. This is a mistake that is being made again in wake of the Hyderabad rape-and-murder case where a young veterinary doctor was raped and then burnt to death by four men.

Some people have suggested that prostitution should be made legal in India and the ban on pornography should be lifted to make India safer for women. Apparently taking these two steps could reduce the number of rapes in India. The argument is flawed and reflects the lack of understanding of the problem, which appears to have become an epidemic in India.

Most European countries have given legal status to prostitution and pornography, but are those countries or societies free of incidents of rape? In fact, official data shows that the incidents of rape per thousand people in those countries are much higher than what is reported in India.


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sravna

Well-known member
With all the spiritual power at my disposal I have created a deterrence towards alcohol, drugs, smoking, violent thoughts, criminal thoughts and perverted thoughts of all in India.

Let us see how it works.
 

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