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Go Not to the temple - a poem by Tagore

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tks

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Go not to the temple~
by RabindranathTagore:

Go not to the templeto put flowers upon the feet of God,
First fill your ownhouse with the Fragrance of love and kindness.

Go not to the templeto light candles before the altar of God,
First remove thedarkness of sin , pride and ego,
from your heart...

Go not to the templeto bow down your head in prayer,
First learn to bowin humility before your fellowmen.
And apologise tothose you have wronged.

Go not to the templeto pray on bended knees,
First bend down tolift someone who is down-trodden.
And strengthen theyoung ones.
Not crush them.


Go not to the templeto ask for forgiveness for your sins,
First forgive fromyour heart those who have hurt you!
 

Vaagmi

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Go not to the temple~
by RabindranathTagore:

Go not to the templeto put flowers upon the feet of God,
First fill your ownhouse with the Fragrance of love and kindness.

Go not to the templeto light candles before the altar of God,
First remove thedarkness of sin , pride and ego,
from your heart...

Go not to the templeto bow down your head in prayer,
First learn to bowin humility before your fellowmen.
And apologise tothose you have wronged.

Go not to the templeto pray on bended knees,
First bend down tolift someone who is down-trodden.
And strengthen theyoung ones.
Not crush them.


Go not to the templeto ask for forgiveness for your sins,
First forgive fromyour heart those who have hurt you!
LOL.

Yesterday I went to the temple lit a lamp, lit an agarbaththi, bowed my head and said

"Thank you God. All these days I followed Tagore's advice and reached nowhere because the world is so large. Whatever I did, I could still find the need to do more and I found myself not upto the task. I could not give up either. You gave us Tagore and through him these advices and I have come here to thank you for that. I did all that Tagore asked me to do in that poem and ultimately realised that I am an insignificant speck. So I surrender--sarva dharmaan parithyajya--and plead that I be accepted. Giving me good sense and appropriate behavior even after your acceptance of me till the final call for me comes(uttara krityam) is also in your hands. Thank you".
 

Raji Ram

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Dear TKS Sir,

One honest and genuine doubt!

Can't a person be as told in the poem, after regular visits to temples? :)
 

sravna

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Dear TKS Sir,

One honest and genuine doubt!

Can't a person be as told in the poem, after regular visits to temples? :)
I think the point is being virtuous is better than going to temple and worshiping God.

Those who have real faith in God will do all that is told in the poem and those who do not have real faith in God but go to the temple are not likely to heed to the advice in the poem.
 
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Vaagmi

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I think the point is being virtuous is better than going to temple and worshiping God.
Those who have real faith in God will do all that is told in the poem and those who do not have real faith in God but go to the temple are not likely to heed to the advice in the poem.
sravnaji,

You are judging. Not called for here.

I can be very virtuous and may feel inadequate. I will go to God and pray for making more people virtuous so that all the miseries of the world are removed. The two are two different processes and mixing them is bad.
 

mskmoorthy

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From the comments in blogs from the poem Go Not to the temple is posted, it is claimed that the poem is not by Tagore. I did a search through Tagore's poems (Not an exhaustive search and I could not find the poem (Do not Go t posted in Tagore's collections). If the poem Go Not to the temple was indeed Tagore's poem, I will like to have a source/reference for it

Here is the closest I see from Tagore (translated by Yeats https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/gitanjali-i-found-wisdom-lost-it-and-found-it-again )
Ref: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/tagore/gitnjali.htm

Leave this chanting and singing and telling of beads! Whom dost thou worship in this lonely dark corner of a temple with doors all shut? Open thine eyes and see thy God is not before thee!

He is there where the tiller is tilling the hard ground and where the pathmaker is breaking stones. He is with them in sun and in shower, and his garment is covered with dust. Put of thy holy mantle and even like him come down on the dusty soil!

Deliverance? Where is this deliverance to be found? Our master himself has joyfully taken upon him the bonds of creation; he is bound with us all for ever.

Come out of thy meditations and leave aside thy flowers and incense! What harm is there if thy clothes become tattered and stained? Meet him and stand by him in toil and in sweat of thy brow.


Tagore wrote about Diety of the Ruined Temple (Poem 88 in Gitanjali) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzIv9gXndE
 

tks

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From the comments in blogs from the poem Go Not to the temple is posted, it is claimed that the poem is not by Tagore. I did a search through Tagore's poems (Not an exhaustive search and I could not find the poem (Do not Go t posted in Tagore's collections). If the poem Go Not to the temple was indeed Tagore's poem, I will like to have a source/reference for it

Here is the closest I see from Tagore (translated by Yeats https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/gitanjali-i-found-wisdom-lost-it-and-found-it-again )
Ref: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/tagore/gitnjali.htm

Leave this chanting and singing and telling of beads! Whom dost thou worship in this lonely dark corner of a temple with doors all shut? Open thine eyes and see thy God is not before thee!

He is there where the tiller is tilling the hard ground and where the pathmaker is breaking stones. He is with them in sun and in shower, and his garment is covered with dust. Put of thy holy mantle and even like him come down on the dusty soil!

Deliverance? Where is this deliverance to be found? Our master himself has joyfully taken upon him the bonds of creation; he is bound with us all for ever.

Come out of thy meditations and leave aside thy flowers and incense! What harm is there if thy clothes become tattered and stained? Meet him and stand by him in toil and in sweat of thy brow.


Tagore wrote about Diety of the Ruined Temple (Poem 88 in Gitanjali) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzIv9gXndE
Dear Sri mskmoorthy,

I do not have reference to this poem. It was shared with me by someone and seemed to have the right message.
What you have found and presented may be more authentic as far as attribution to Tagore goes

Thanks,
 

tks

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Dear TKS Sir,

One honest and genuine doubt!

Can't a person be as told in the poem, after regular visits to temples? :)
Smt Raji,

It is not either/or situation.

It comes to truly understanding what Isvara is, what Bhakthi is and why feel this sense of limitation.

Just going to temples and ignoring the message of Tagore (perhaps with the corrected version presented by Sri Mooorthy) is of limited value.

If we are fortunate (have this so called 'grace') we will grow in understanding and the world at large itself will appear as a temple.
 

tks

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I think the point is being virtuous is better than going to temple and worshiping God.

Those who have real faith in God will do all that is told in the poem and those who do not have real faith in God but go to the temple are not likely to heed to the advice in the poem.
I would say those who have the deepest desire to understand Isvara will naturally act along the lines Tagore has stated. Virtuous etc are labels that could be misunderstood.

This does not mean going to temples and doing some religious rituals is negative. It simply reflects the state of understanding of a person.
 

tks

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The objective of Tagore's poem is to increase understanding of what worship of Isvara means.

Let me use an example to make this point.

The summary verse of B.Gita - verse 18.66 starts as 'sarva dharmaan parithyajya'. This is taken to mean that there is a God person (Sri Krishna) who is waiting for one to surrender. It is fine to think that way since a person feels some limitations and feel like 'surrendering' all his limitations to a God.

As one grows in understanding one will question why this verse is in Chapter 18 and not earlier. The entire B.Gita can be dispensed with by saying this in the beginning. There are some 'acharyas' who preach this 'easy' solution.

That verse is profound because it is actually a summation of all that is taught in the earlier chapters of B. Gita. If one does not know the teaching in other chapters and cannot see the connection in a crystal clear manner to this verse that sums it all of B.Gita teachings, then they have lost an opportunity to use the endowments of human birth. Sri Sankara has extensive Bhashya on this verse because mistaken notions are easily possible. Even though the commentaries for this verse are relatively extensive, without proper person in a teacher role it is easy to miss the message.

Verses like those of Tagore can make people think which is why shared it with members here.
 

renuka

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Hey why no one writes a Poem "Go Not to the Mosque or Church?"

Its only Hindus who try to act "intellectual" and belt out poems like Go Not to the Temple etc.

Personally I haven't gone to a temple more than 1 year now..but certainly I do not find anything wrong in anyone going to the temple...its a matter of a personal choice of an individual.

Also all these talk of being virtous..love thy fellow man..forgive everyone only sounds good in poems!LOL

I real life sometimes hell can break lose.

Best is just to not try too hard for anything...follow what the heart says..sometimes the Mind can be one's worst enemy.

If our heart tells us to go to a temple...GO.

If our heart tells us NOT to go...DONT Go.

I guess its best not to be rigid..freedom is still the best.
 

renuka

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Go not to the templeto light candles before the altar of God,




Go not to the temple to pray on bended knees,

Go not to the temple to ask for forgiveness for your sins,
I have a serious doubt here!

Which temple lights Candles, Kneel for prayers and ask forgiveness for sins?

This sound like some Catholic Church!LOL
 

sravna

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Dear Shri Vaagmi, Shri TKS,

One does certain things when in a place of worship like putting flowers. kneeling, lighting candles etc. These have a certain symbolic meaning, in general removal of negativity and promotion of positivity but actually done as a ritual. The poem asks us to directly work on doing away our negativity and cultivate positivity. That I think is the gist of the poem.
 

Raji Ram

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Hey why no one writes a Poem "Go Not to the Mosque or Church?" ......
Dear Renu,

Because all of know that Hindus are only iLichchavAy-s! :lol:

For example when J J amma was depicted as Goddess Durga, everyone was elated! :dance:

When she was depicted as Virgin Mary, it was promptly removed by that community, after lot of :rant: !
 

zebra16

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I have a serious doubt here!

Which temple lights Candles, Kneel for prayers and ask forgiveness for sins?

This sound like some Catholic Church!LOL
Now you can gauge the level of infection of this virus called copy-pasting. People do not even reflect before they start sharing the copy pasted stuff. All that is required for passing off the spurious stuff is to give its ownership to some known personality.
 

zebra16

Well-known member
The objective of Tagore's poem is to increase understanding of what worship of Isvara means.
My observation:

You go on expanding the scope of an author's writing to cover even those aspects which do not seem to be in the ambit of the author (a la Tagore) in this instance. You couch them under similies or metaphors or examples.

In your previous postings you had touched upon sandhyA-vandanam at least a few times. None of the actions performed during sandhyA-vandanam nor any of the mantrAs uttered during sandhyA-vandanam or even the famed gAyatri mantram say anything even remotely what this supposed poem of Tagore seems to be saying (or in the expanded meaning you have given by way of an example).

I have no issues if the extended or enlarged scope of a poet or bard or author appeal to you, but it can be just your impression and can not be construed as a world view.

To put it in the language of a mathematician or a physicist, notwithstanding the utility of square root of minus one, s = a + i has no applicability in human genome theory.
 
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zebra16

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Hey why no one writes a Poem "Go Not to the Mosque or Church?"

Its only Hindus who try to act "intellectual" and belt out poems like Go Not to the Temple etc.

Personally I haven't gone to a temple more than 1 year now..but certainly I do not find anything wrong in anyone going to the temple...its a matter of a personal choice of an individual.

Also all these talk of being virtous..love thy fellow man..forgive everyone only sounds good in poems!LOL

I real life sometimes hell can break lose.

Best is just to not try too hard for anything...follow what the heart says..sometimes the Mind can be one's worst enemy.

If our heart tells us to go to a temple...GO.

If our heart tells us NOT to go...DONT Go.

I guess its best not to be rigid..freedom is still the best.
When Bengal fell into the grip of left ideology and communism right from the start of 20th century, the leftists (who masquerade as liberals) realized that they had to get around three big icons, Sri Arubindo, Sri Tagore and Swami Vivekananda who lived in the 20th century and were shapers of public opinion par excellence, if they had to stand any chance of surviving.

One of the easy methods was to pass on spurious stuffs supposedly authored by them and flood it into the market by way of handouts, articles, speeches etc. after they passed away and these unsubstantiated stuffs and articles found their natural path in the big world of internet.
 
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