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pl. see (Periyar dasan) Abdullah's justification on embracing islam
I saw the video until 9 min and 21 sec. I know this person 'Periyar Dasan' who acted in the film 'karuththamma'.
I am not at all a learned person regarding ancient history, or sanskrit or religious text or anything else. I am a human who considers others as equal humans - no more no less.
I think this is what happens when 'ஒருவனை வாழ்கையின் எல்லைக்கே ஓட ஓட விரட்டினால்'!
People in this forum can clearly see that most (if not everyone) of the muslims and christians in India were basically Hindus! Even Shri. Yamaka admitted that their anscestors converted. WHY???
If you guys answer this question as to 'WHY' and find a solution there would be no need for anyone to convert.
My best friend, a Christian, my neighbour, her father expired and they had placed an one rupee coin on the dead man's forehead! The pastor who came for the cremation cermonies told them to remove the coin as it was againt christian philosophies! He came around after another half hour and still found the coin on the forehead and told that unless they remove it he will not proceed with anything! With reluctance they removed it!
Man is a social animal! If he is denied the basic needs in his religion, ofcourse he will convert to other religions to find the consolance.
Apart from Arya Samaj and ISKON who convert other people to hinduism (even that is not truly accepted by the real orthodocs, in my opinion) I understand that the majority view is that hindus and brahmins have to be born into that religion or caste!
Until hinduism becomes one whole hinduism, these conversions cannot be stopped and neither the hate against brahmins by MOST nb be evited!
Kind regards
....unfortunately...it may take another two generations to overcome the crude two tumbler and such stuff...
People in this forum can clearly see that most (if not everyone) of the muslims and christians in India were basically Hindus! Even Shri. Yamaka admitted that their anscestors converted. WHY???
If you guys answer this question as to 'WHY' and find a solution there would be no need for anyone to convert.
Dear Iyer
I don't know whether the above post is addressed to me or not! If it is so, let me tell you that I don't have disenchantment when anyone disowns Hinduism nor feel too happy when they embrace Hinduism i.e. I see all human beings as just that - humans.
I read and hear that lot of dalits (mainly dalits) convert to other religions from Hindusim because of the way they are treated. It always disturbs me - no, not about their conversion, but just to gain some basic dignity they are pushed to take the decision of converting.
Hope this will suffice!
Kind regards
IMHO all these confusion about conversion, religion etc is caused because we are unaware of our true identity. When someone dies, you dont't call it a Hindu corpse, Muslim corpse or Christian corpse. Every corpse, regardless of religion, stinks, decomposes and mingles with sand from where man came.
Regards,
Iyer
Very deep philosophy expressed in stinky expression.
But the tomb stone may say a different story.
Dear Prasad,
Whatever be the story tombstones tell externally, inside every tomb is the same dead bone.
Regards,
Iyer
..... So a person may speak vociferously against caste system but even a well-to-do person will not hesitate to avail of the benefits of reservation.
I don't think it is reasonable to make such a generalized statement based just on the Indian condition. The jati feelings we notice among Muslims and Christians is India centric and can easily be traced back to the Brahminism inspired varna/jati system. IMO, the important difference for us to realize is the doctrinal difference. The Islamic and Christian doctrines, while there is much to be desired in both, are at least free of varna/jati based differences. When the Indian Christians and Muslims observe caste distinctions they are actually going against their own religious doctrine, unable to rise above the doctrine of Brahminism they were raised under. So, the caste feelings Indian Christians and Muslims exhibit is more an indictment of Brahminism than Christianity or Islam -- not that there is any dearth of material to indict them... So it is a myth that there is no caste system among Muslims/Christians.
For the reasons I stated above this is not something peculiar only to Dalit converts, anything materially worthwhile coming the way of Brahmins or NB, or anybody else, be assured, clammer they will. So, please, do not be so hard on Dalits who have converted.Look at the clammer for reservation of dalit christians, dalit muslims.
If I were a Hindu I would like to understand why a Periyar Dasan prefers to abandon Hinduism and follow Islam, a religion that would put to death an atheist like his master EVR. Hindus choosing not to bother about such matter are doing so at the peril of their own chosen religion. Even though my first preference is to rid ourselves of all religions, given there is a competition between religions, I rather see Hindus care about their own coreligionists (Dalits, MBCs. OBCs, etc.) more than the Christians and Muslim converts. For this to happen, Hindus must learn to bother about what subbu48 says Hindus need not bother.c) Periyar Dasan by name appears to be a follower of Periyar and must be an atheist. His conversion to Islam should not bother Hindus anyway.
dear vsubbu48, .............i rather see hindus care about their own coreligionists (dalits, mbcs. Obcs, etc.) more than the christians and muslim converts. For this to happen, hindus must learn to bother about what subbu48 says hindus need not bother.
Cheers!
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