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Catching the pigs

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This is a forwarded item received by me in another forum. I present this for the benefit of members here:

CATCHING PIGS

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class.

One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.

In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: "Do you know how to catch wild pigs?" The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke. "You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn.

"When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.

"They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.

"The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity."

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in India.

The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.

One should always remember two truths: "There is no such thing as a free lunch, and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself. "

If you see that all of this wonderful government "help" is a problem confronting the future of democracy in India, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email. But, God help us all when the gate slams shut!

Hence,
Quote for today:

"In India the problems we face today are there because
the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."

--Anonymous
 

prasad1

Active member
Mr. Raju,
I wanted to skip this post, because this will be one more cause to disagree with you (which I really do not want to do).
Can you explain your definition of communism?
In USA the right wing politicians usually will depict Mr. Obama as a communist. I feel that somehow the bogyman communist is a fiction. In Indian states of Kerala and Bengal communists have been in power, they are equally corrupt and inefficient as other party people. These states are still a democracy which is anti-communism. If states regulated issues of concern to to the state, that is not communism. If states assumed law and order, it is a state function. I agree that there should be some checks and balances. In India private sector is also equally corrupt. Actually, surprisingly the corrupt government catches overly corrupt individual and private institutions.
I agree corruption should be curbed, but to label Government as communism is an overreach.

Are you saying that you would want India to scrap democracy and surrender to a Dictator of your choice!!!
 
Dear Sri. Raju, Greetings.

But, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
But the gate is alreay shut. Free corn is the caste and religion based reservations, religion based subsidies and hand-outs, etnic/religion based protections are few of the things I can think of.

Cheers!
 
Dear Sri. Raju, Greetings.

But the gate is alreay shut. Free corn is the caste and religion based reservations, religion based subsidies and hand-outs, etnic/religion based protections are few of the things I can think of.

Cheers!

That is why what is happening in India is, in some ways, worse than the ideologies of socialism/communism in that these benefits are available only to the select few "priveleged" communities. As an example of the ever increasing discrimination, consider the reservation proposed for lokpal membership.

Parliamentary panel seeks collegium for selection of CBI chief - The Hindu: Mobile Edition

A Parliamentary Select Committee besides recommending de-linking of Lokayuktas from the central Lokpal Bill in a crucial suggestion has sought that the CBI Director be appointed for a fixed tenure by a collegium comprising the Prime Minister, Leader of Opposition in the Lok Sabha and the Chief Justice.

The Committee has suggested that for effective implementation of the Lokpal, the CBI should have a separate Directorate of Prosecution whose chief is to be appointed by the Chief Vigilance Commission, also for a fixed period.
Among other important suggestions are that the Lokpal would have the power of superintendence and transfer of officers on cases referred by it to CBI. For Lokpal referred cases the CBI may appoint a panel of advocates independent of the government with the consent of the Lokpal.

The Rajya Sabha Select Committee, looking at the Lokayukta and Lokpal Bill, 2011, has suggested that it be made mandatory for states to constitute Lokayuktas through enactment of law within one year of the notification of the Lokpal Act.

The panel adopted its report with ``consensus’’ although besides the BJP, members belonging to CPI-M, NCP, AIADMK and the Bahujan Samaj Party had differing views on issues like powers of the investigating agencies and even the need for creation of Lokayuktas. The members, however, agreed that instead of giving notes of ``dissent’’, their views would be annexed to the main report.

The panel did not recommend any change in the clause3 (2) (b) Bill, 2011 that provides for 50 per cent membership on the Lokpal shall from Scheduled castes, Scheduled Tribes, Other Backward Classes, Minorities and Women.

Having taken the opinion of the Department of Personnel and the Ministry of Law, the committee held that the provision was in the nature of `representation’ to diverse sections of the society, hence the rules of `reservation’ was not involved. BJP members had raised the matter saying there was no constitutional provision for reservation to minorities, whose definition could vary from state to state. They later agreed to annex their ``suggestion’’ to the report.

According to sources, the major differences were on the issue of autonomy and independence of the CBI and reservation of 50 per cent positions on Lokpal for SCs, STs, OBCs, minorities and women. NCP member D.P. Tripathi, for instance, sought more financial and administrative autonomy to the CBI for its functional autonomy. CPI (M) K.N. Balagopal member raised the matter of inclusion of NGOs and government-aided bodies.
AIADMK member V. Maitreyan argued that keeping in mind the federal structure of the Union, formation of Lokayuktas should be left to the states and not be made mandatory. The party wants the Prime Minister to be excluded from the purview of the Lokpal. The committee has suggested that within a year of the notification of the Bill, state governments must mandatorily establish Lokayuktas in the state.
In another crucial recommendation the panel calls for deletion of the clause that allows a public servant an opportunity of being heard during the inquiry stage.

On the jurisdiction of the Lokpal, the panel did not make any change. It noted that there was already exemption in respect of the Prime Minister in terms of sensitive information.

The report will be tabled in Parliament on Friday and will thereafter be placed in the Union cabinet for approval.

All are welcome except "upper" caste hindu male!

IMO, such arbitrary discriminating policies that are ubiquitous in India will lay this country to waste!
 
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Dear Prasad,
1.What I did was just copy pasting. While I agree with the main thrust of the post that the freebies and concessions given to people have a numbing anaesthetizing effect on the people who are targeted, my views about communism are radically different and are debatable. We can take it up some other time.
2. Isms are brought into the picture only to legitimize what we say- like we find many people here quoting verbatim the Vedas to support a certain view point.
3. Leaving aside isms what do you think about the freebies/concessions to selective sections of the society? I think they are all manifestations of an effort to ‘catch the pigs’. Would you like to still skip the post?
4. The student who was perhaps from the deep woods of Africa or Amazon was able to relate what is happening in India to his experience back home. If a Chinese student was to write it , he would have perhaps seen a parallel in the days of opium addiction of his countrymen and the cultural and political degradation of that time in his country.
5. My personal view is that the communist political system will be ideal for certain societies such as Chinese. In India if it were to be tried it will fail miserably and may result in India going into a spin and disappearing.
6. I am aware that you or any one else may not agree fully with whatever I write here. I am always open to a debate and welcome it. I do not mince words and that is the only problem you may encounter.
Cheers.
 

sravna

Well-known member
Dear Shri Raju,

I doubt whether the rulers have any such master plan. Most of their reactions are knee jerk ones intended to address the immediate problem. But the devastation of the average citizen and of the country ultimately is not a lot different.
 
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OP
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Dear Sravna,

When you swim across a river you mark your aim and then plunge. Nearer the banks the current is less strong and you can swim against the current and maintain your direction, as you get to the deep waters you swim with the stronger current and again when you are nearer to the opposite bank you swim maintaining the direction. I think our politicians are smart swimmers. I trust nothing damaging will happen ultimately. Each one knows his limits and boundaries and plays within it. I am optimistic.

Cheers.
 
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