sapr333,
My response is in 'blue'.
Frankly, I just opted this only for survery reasons.. Anyways, cos You have written a long post, I thought to take an exemption to respond to you.. Btw, I really enjoyed your well balanced responses in another posts.. And I appreciate your views too..
Same here about your postings. I saw at the end of the survey you have addressed this Forum that based on the outcome of the survey 'we will jointly' figure out solutions. This is what prompted me to write.
A common sense would do.. Hindustan of ancient times, is now falling short of 15% hindu population, according to 1992 census...
You mean 85% of the population? In India, the total numbers have been growing at around 20%. Common sense should tell you Hinduism is 'dying slowly', only if high numbers of present day Hindus leave the religion voluntarily. You can not connect a population growth rates of different religions and say just because one religious group is less fertile they are 'dying'. I think your 'commen sensical' analysis is faulty and wrong.
You are free to persume what I am... But I'm on the search of 'Ultimate Truth about God''... Thats one reason, I liked this site, rather enjoyed this place, though its a short stint.. I have been hanging on different sites, including Jewish/Aetheist ones, with different handle names.. Virutual world right!!... But my objective is real, not virtual.. Pursuit of God.
Yes, I actually do not care what is your preferred religion. But I have seen you not looking at Hinduism and Islam in particularly good light. This issue only is raised because without understanding the Brahmin culture you have made statements both here and other Forums that to me seem to be lacking any empathy that comes from understanding a culture. For example, I will never ever casually say derogatory things about someone else's religious theology or Gods/Saints. Yet you make such comments about Adi Shankara, Lord Rama and Mohammed in your postings. This shows me that you do not have any empathy with the Hindu clulture (or Muslim for that matter).
Contrarily, I have also enjoyed some of the finest debates of Adi Shankara.. Im not sure if you know, he is the only person, who first comprehended the Concept of God, logically.. Regarding the history of extermination of Buddhists, Yes, we can have a debate on this..
Btw, you calling me uneducated, I would love to remain humble and humiliated.. Im ok with that.. no comments on that
Let me quote from some of your postings about Hinduism and Adi Shankara from elsewhere:"Its very obvious, when confronted with questions on social aspects, Hindus’ would find shelter in ‘Way OFF Life”.. And when you dig “Way of life” philosphically/theologically, one would take shelter in ‘MAYA’(you have to google about it).. MAYA , and illusion, or Hallucination, which is widely accepted in Hindu Scriptures that god Shiva was hallucinated by marijuana, like our Rishi’s of Himalayas..The point here is Hinduism is complex(not on positive note).. rather its confused, dying to patch the pot holes,when questioned.."
"Shankara, possibly, Adi Sankar too would have twisted the facts like you and got an oppportunity to exterminated buddhism".
"No king will invade a land with an invitation on hand… And India is neither your father’s property nor any Hindu’s property. Its a vast land once inhibited by Dravidians.. Later invaded by Barbaric Aryan Brahmins and subsequently many followed the suit.
If not for Rama, india would have been a great Dravidian country.
If not for Rama, Babri Masjid would’nt have got demolished."
These are your words. This is why I am very concerned whether you have the best interests of Hinduism and our theological principles in your heart.
Now, I am not calling you uneducated - obviously you have an engineering degree and well educated. I am calling your views as posted above as uneducated. Maya in Advaitha philosophy is not just 'illusion or hallucination'. This is an uneducated view, because you obviously have not understood the theology behind Advaitha. When you say what you say about Sri Adi Shankara as above, this shows a lack of education about him.
Please read my blog on 'Are Tamil Brahmins not Tamils... You will know.. Yes, I'm against certain 'Isms', and this could be one among"
No sir - you directly insult Brahmins as 'fat', like Kancha does. This is not against any 'ism'.
We are just airing our views in this virtual world of internet.. There is noting personal.... By saying "Fire", our tongues wont get burnt right!!! Lets take it easy!!
Yes, there is nothing personal. But this Forum was created to promote the interests of the TB community. And if you feel that you are doing that, as I have said, you are welcome!
Btw, before that, have you cast your vote on this poll? Just curious!!
As I have said in my previous posting, no, I have no intention of voting because I think it is a red-herring.
So you mean to say, Hinduism doesnt accept Comments??? If so, I think, you dont know much about Hinduism? Remeber, Hinduism has even accepted Chavarkas, which denied even the concept of God...
Sir, Hinduism is the only religion that has examined all philosophies under the sun. We had people of science saying that the earth revolved around the sun long before the Christian church was eliminating those who would say such things. So, please.
My import was that argue with us showing who you are. Without our welfare in your heart don't do 'stealth' attacks. This is what I meant. If you are doing that, then it is okay. Even then we will always be cordial and debate as we are doing.
Once again please go through my blog... I have appreciations towards the hospitality, while narrating my Train journey a decade ago.
Yes, but I see a disconnect between what you are saying here and what you have posted elsewhere. But still, we welcome you.
So you want me to tread only in line with your thoughts? And you are casting me a bad boy, just because I shared opposite views?..
Please finish that book, lets engage in a dialogue (not fight it over!)..Lets learn something out by sharing contradictory views.. Thanks
No,it is okay to have contradictory views. But I think that it is not gentlemanly to say things without giving others a view of what is your religious background is. How you grew up bears on who you are today. You are saying 'I am a seeker of God'. yet you have posted views that belie that. You talk about my religion (although one can see your education and grasp are limited) as though you are a Hindu. This is my concern about you.
I will never call you a 'bad boy'. A 'stealthy person' may be!
Regards,
KRS