From a veteran like Sri Kunjuppa we certainly did not expect to get such a sarcastic comment
"Bodayana Amavasai" - As I understand this dates back to the Mahabardam. During the war time Sahadev advised Duryodan to start the "Kala Bali" on Amavasya day so as to win the war. Lord Krishna confused Duryodan by performing Tarpanam on prior day itself. That day was known as "Bodayana Amavasai". Also, normallt it comes in "Ashada"month.
The story I recall is, to throw a monkey wrench into Duyodana's plans, Krishna summoned Sun and Moon to appear before him. When they showed up together he instructed all to do tarpanam as Amavasya is the day when Sun and Moon are together. I am not sure this is in the texts, Shri sangom may clarify.Lord Krishna confused Duryodan by performing Tarpanam on prior day itself.
SVs follow different rules to ascertain when to observe nitya and naimitya karmas as well as other thithi based austerities such as Ekadasi vradham, etc., not to mention festivals such as Sri Jayanti and Sri Rama navami.... This particular observance is also limited to a certain section of Vaishnava Sect. Usually, in such cases the major part of the Amavasi will fall on the previous day but it ends on the next day after sunrise.
I will check and reply.Hello, The story I recall is, to throw a monkey wrench into Duyodana's plans, Krishna summoned Sun and Moon to appear before him. When they showed up together he instructed all to do tarpanam as Amavasya is the day when Sun and Moon are together. I am not sure this is in the texts, Shri sangom may clarify.
AFAIK, among smartas tarpanam should be done after midnoon since the first half of the day is considered as Devakaalam (time for worshipping devas) and the time from mid-noon to sunset is called pitrukaalam (time for worshipping the pitrus). If one does pitru karma before noon he incurs the displeasure of the devas. Also, if the pitru karma is done first and then some deva pooja is done it clearly is against sastra and will result in the displeasure of devas for slighting them. Hence in the olden days vadhyars used to go late only for tarpanam instructions. The amavasya should be there for some minimum duration after midnoon for Sraaddham and /or tarpanam to be performed. Due to the rate of movement of moon sometimes a tithi will start late after mid-noon and end short of the minimum required for pitru karmas. Such days will be marked as Sunya tithi days in the panchaangams.SVs follow different rules to ascertain when to observe nitya and naimitya karmas as well as other thithi based austerities such as Ekadasi vradham, etc., not to mention festivals such as Sri Jayanti and Sri Rama navami.
For SVs, Amavasya Tarpanam must be done on the day when Amavasyai overlaps the period of the day called aparannam, which may be the day when Amavasyai starts or the day when it ends.
Similarly, Ekadasi vradam for SVs is on the day when Ekadasi is present at the time of Arunodayam, which is about 6 nA. before actual sun rise. This again could happen on the day Ekadasi begins or the day when it ends.
Lots of rules, amounting to not a whole lot!!!!!
...the Amaavaasya tithi should be there for a minimum period in the first half of the night for that day to be reckoned as Amaavaasya, whereas, for others, the tithi should be there for a minimum period after mid-noon.
I have an unabridged Tamil traslation (couple of parvas are missing in my copy), I will check it after I return...
The story of Krishna calling the sun and the moon to create an artificial new moon day on the previous day of the actual one is not found in the Mahabharata (translated by K.M.Ganguli) which I have. But since there are several versions of the Mahabharata, such a story could be found in some other version perhaps.
We have no dearth of gullible masses on the look out for any supernatural stuff to believe in -- no wonder we have godmen and acharyas having such a sway. Appealing to reason is a lonely endeavor, prone to receiving slings and arrows from the gullible masses who are quick to take offense. I, for one, am with you, but that may only make you more vulnerable for attacks.This story is good only for the gullible masses. .... Of course not many people will agree with me on this point I know; it is my view only.
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