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    Quote Originally Posted by janaki jambunathan View Post
    what about shankaranarayan - gay union? We even have nara simha man & animal avatar! No taboos for our gods what is true for narayana is true to his devotee as well - where is the blasphemy in hindu religion?
    lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renuka View Post
    Psychology..it comes under psychology and human sexuality.

    It doesnt come under.any disorder since it does not require treatment.
    is not lgbtq a perversion in behaviour and hence a behavioral/psychic/eccentric condition like nymphomania, warranting psychiatric treatment/therapy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNANA SUNYAM View Post
    is not lgbtq a perversion in behaviour and hence a behavioral/psychic/eccentric condition like nymphomania, warranting psychiatric treatment/therapy?
    There is nothing called normal and abnormal. If one is seriously indoctrinated in religion like Christianity one can become a psychiatric case talking about morals etc. In creation you find homosexuals, bisexuals etc and no creation is abnormal or mental case. I only worry about those that feel and spread hatred to be the psychiatric cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janaki Jambunathan View Post
    What about Shankaranarayan - Gay Union? We even have Nara Simha man & animal avatar! No taboos for our Gods What is true for Narayana is true to his devotee as well - Where is the blasphemy in Hindu religion?
    Dear Janaki Madam:

    You always come up with the most apt and humorous response.

    There are mythological stories about Vishnu becoming Mohini. Does it mean Vishnu was transgender for a while? Arjuna was a transvestite for a while .

    If Vishnu was a Mohini, what happened to Lakshmin in his/her heart. Does it mean Lesbianism is recognized in these stories.

    Vishnu doing both can be called bisexual.

    I am not sure what our dear holy man has to say about all these besides whining ... LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNANA SUNYAM View Post
    is not lgbtq a perversion in behaviour and hence a behavioral/psychic/eccentric condition like nymphomania, warranting psychiatric treatment/therapy?
    Nymphomania?
    I never feel it needs therapy if a person can handle it.

    Ok...lets get things straight.
    What about straight men/ women watching porn?
    I am sure you must have logged in to watch at least at some point in your life.

    Abnormal or therapy needed?
    Nope...UNLESS it becomes an obsession that one shirks from other activities in life and affects him/ herself and others.

    Ok..LGBT between consenting partners 2 is not perversion.

    Its not hard to understand this..just ask yourself..can you ever be attracted to a male even if you are locked up in prison with a Greek God looking male?

    Your answer would be No.

    Likewise a homosexual male can never be attracted sexually even if he locked up in prison with Aishwarya Rai.

    Just think this...by default you are atrracted to females..
    Some others by default are attracted to their own sex or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a-TB View Post
    There is nothing called normal and abnormal. If one is seriously indoctrinated in religion like Christianity one can become a psychiatric case talking about morals etc. In creation you find homosexuals, bisexuals etc and no creation is abnormal or mental case. I only worry about those that feel and spread hatred to be the psychiatric cases.
    madam,

    it is the so-called christian nations like the united states of america who decriminalized lgbtq.

    if lgbtq is anti-christian why did christian nations legalize/decriminalize it?

    the europeans who are predominantly christians, nakedly indulge in lgbtq.

    could you provide evidence that lgbtq is condemned in christian doctrines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by renuka View Post
    Nymphomania?
    I never feel it needs therapy if a person can handle it.

    Ok...lets get things straight.
    What about straight men/ women watching porn?
    I am sure you must have logged in to watch at least at some point in your life.

    Abnormal or therapy needed?
    Nope...UNLESS it becomes an obsession that one shirks from other activities in life and affects him/ herself and others.

    Ok..LGBT between consenting partners 2 is not perversion.

    Its not hard to understand this..just ask yourself..can you ever be attracted to a male even if you are locked up in prison with a Greek God looking male?

    Your answer would be No.

    Likewise a homosexual male can never be attracted sexually even if he locked up in prison with Aishwarya Rai.

    Just think this...by default you are atrracted to females..
    Some others by default are attracted to their own sex or both.
    madam,

    imho, a man getting attracted to a woman and vice versa is natural/normal basal instinct.

    in every species, the male getting attracted to female and vice versa is a natural/normal basal instinct.

    this natural basal instinct is essentially required for copulation, reproduction and multiplication of species. you know this better than I do.

    the Creator Himself created the creations, the species, with this basal instinct by nature as normal.

    the other basal instincts, man-to-man and woman-to-woman, is obviously abnormal and anti-natural.

    this is my humble opinion, not subjective opinion.

    Also, unless a man or a woman is a saint, who has conquered/overcome by spiritual powers the basal instinct, if a man does not get attracted to a woman who is not his mother/sister/kith/kin or if a woman does not get attracted to a man who is not her brother/father/kith/kin, in all probability there is something abnormal, perhaps physical or perhaps psychical, in that person, warranting treatment/therapy. i trust you would have diagnosed such cases also and offered counsel/advise.

    watching porn is a common temptation, a weakness of the mind, that would die eventually when indulged continually. pornography may be classified at most as vice rather than crime or a psychiatric condition. addictions to porn could be de-addicted through counsel/advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNANA SUNYAM View Post
    madam,

    imho, a man getting attracted to a woman and vice versa is natural/normal basal instinct.

    in every species, the male getting attracted to female and vice versa is a natural/normal basal instinct.

    this natural basal instinct is essentially required for copulation, reproduction and multiplication of species. you know this better than I do.

    the Creator Himself created the creations, the species, with this basal instinct by nature as normal.

    the other basal instincts, man-to-man and woman-to-woman, is obviously abnormal and anti-natural.

    this is my humble opinion, not subjective opinion.

    Also, unless a man or a woman is a saint, who has conquered/overcome by spiritual powers the basal instinct, if a man does not get attracted to a woman who is not his mother/sister/kith/kin or if a woman does not get attracted to a man who is not her brother/father/kith/kin, in all probability there is something abnormal, perhaps physical or perhaps psychical, in that person, warranting treatment/therapy. i trust you would have diagnosed such cases also and offered counsel/advise.

    watching porn is a common temptation, a weakness of the mind, that would die eventually when indulged continually. pornography may be classified at most as vice rather than crime or a psychiatric condition. addictions to porn could be de-addicted through counsel/advice.
    see I knew it! If I mention Porn..somehow I get the Truth out...that is "Porn is a vice but not a psychological disorder"!LOL...its becos everyone has seen it.
    Finally its just our own perceptions and perceptions..if it suits us its normal..if it doesnt suit us its abnormal..totally unfair.

    Ok coming to God...

    lets see...Hindu Gods mostly have female partners...so they seem mostly straight.
    Some have an unknown side..eg Vishnu and Shiva did combine and make Hari Hara...so no idea what were their feelings.

    Next is Abrahamic concept of God.

    Jewish --- God - There is the concept of Shekinah in Kabbalah school of thought..Shekinah is Feminine its like Prakirti in Hinduism where its a projection of God's own power.

    Christian ---God..had a son but yet claims immaculate conception.

    Islam --Allah has no partners. Only Allah is truly unwed.
    Last edited by renuka; 15-09-2018 at 11:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GNANA SUNYAM View Post
    madam,

    it is the so-called christian nations like the united states of america who decriminalized lgbtq.

    if lgbtq is anti-christian why did christian nations legalize/decriminalize it?

    the europeans who are predominantly christians, nakedly indulge in lgbtq.

    could you provide evidence that lgbtq is condemned in christian doctrines?
    Not Madam .. (A while ago my family used this login but lost interest in the forum quickly). Mr is fine.

    It is a defect in our thinking to divide people in terms of normal and abnormal. Everything is nature is normal. If someone causes harm to others (bestiality, pedophile) that has to be stopped by the rest of the society.

    Please understand this - LGBTQ people who are right now living as your friends and relatives (you just do not know) are not harming you. People who are paranoid about this LGBTQ may have deep issues about their own identity and orientation. Let us live and let live. Someone can say your kind of thinking is abnormal and recommend psychiatry. Will that be right? Just think about it.

    There may or may not be a creator depending on your beliefs. But that creator did create LGBTQ, so respect them which is like respecting the creator.

    America has thinking and compassionate people despite a huge voting blocks of (hate mongering) Christian Evangelicals. They were dead against gays using arguments like what you are putting forth (normal/abnormal, creator's desire etc). It took a lot of battles to decriminalize and even allow domestic partnership recognized by law.

    These Christian evangelicals created non-issues into issues by denying little Transgender boys and girls to use the bathroom in schools of their chosen gender. The suicide rates among transgenders is the highest.

    A sizeable number of catholic priests are pedophiles. The Church of the Vatican has been covering up for years. Overall the religion has done harm to the world by these practices.

    Many are born Christians but their compassion overcame their beliefs of hatred. In USA alone they had this idea 'all men are created equal' and yet they practiced slavery for a very long time.

    Look at the actions of 'true' Christians and word of the Church or pope to know where they stand on such issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renuka View Post
    see I knew it! If I mention Porn..somehow I get the Truth out...that is "Porn is a vice but not a psychological disorder"!LOL...its becos everyone has seen it.
    Finally its just our own perceptions and perceptions..if it suits us its normal..if it doesnt suit us its abnormal..totally unfair.

    Ok coming to God...

    lets see...Hindu Gods mostly have female partners...so they seem mostly straight.
    Some have an unknown side..eg Vishnu and Shiva did combine and make Hari Hara...so no idea what were their feelings.

    Next is Abrahamic concept of God.

    Jewish --- God - There is the concept of Shekinah in Kabbalah school of thought..Shekinah is Feminine its like Prakirti in Hinduism where its a projection of God's own power.

    Christian ---God..had a son but yet claims immaculate conception.

    Islam --Allah has no partners. Only Allah is truly unwed.
    Very smart to have found the right issue for a counter example.

    There are many who would recommend psychiatry to someone who watches porn (and mastu*****)

    Is that normal? Should porn watchers be objects of hate? I hope not. Let us live and let live
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