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    The story of Karthikeya - Energy that produces heat


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    I had illustrated how Ganapati is 'Entropy increasing' energy and kArthikeya is 'Heat Increasing' energy in this blog. Now let me describe the story of kArthikeya and Ganesha.

    The story of kArthikeya

    Once Siva's fluid (Seminal or sparks of third eye or perspiration) fell in a pond in a place called 'Sara-vana'. Six krtiikA sisters who came to bathe in the pond took up these sparks, which became kids in their hands; they nursed them as six different children.


    In some versions the seminal fluid/perspiration was gobbled by Agni ; pArvati asked/cursed Agni to deliver it safely somewhere in earth; Agni delivered it in Six krttikA's womb making them pregnant; their husbands (six of the seven Rishis) divorced them for it; these six krttikA sisters delivered six babies and nursed them.


    In some versions svAha loved Agni; Agni loved six krttikA sisters who were wives of sapta rishis. svAha transformed herself into six krtiikA sisters and made love with Agni who delivered siva's semen into them and she delivered six kids as six sisters and nursed them.


    In all the main story line is a part of Shiva branched into six, acquired six different forms nursed by six krttikA sisters.


    Then pArvati took all these six kids in her hands and made them into one with six heads. She had a boon from Shiva that they will be seen as 'one' and they will know only pArvati as their mother. Shiva granted the boon.


    Energy becomes Heat


    Energy is the one that is characterized by Momentum. Energy is gross/sthula. It is perceived by us. The property of energy, the suKshma is momentum. It is inferred by us.


    Agni is fire. Agni is the process by which particles interact with energy. Particles are those that have 'mass'. Energy interacts with particles of mass (called matter). In other words Agni delivers 'energy' to matter.


    When Agni delivers 'energy' to matter, 'heat' is produced. This heat is produced in six different ways in a body of particles or matter.


    There are six 'skins' or 'forms' for heat production. krtti means 'skin' or an external clothing. krttikA are which are skinned or clothed.


    1. Particles in a body can absorb radiation (light) and produce heat

    2. Particles in bodies can chemically react with each other and produce heat
    3. Charged particles in bodies can produce heat (eg. Electric current)
    4. Particles of a body when they are pressurized to occupy a smaller space produce heat.
    5. Magnetism of Charged particles in a body can produce heat.
    6. When bodies move against each other, physical friction produces heat.

    These are the ONLY six different ways 'heat' can be produced. When energy is delivered to matter (Agni), heat is produced in a body of matter in these
    six different forms/ways.


    When a body gets heated up, it is not possible to distinguish which of these is causing the heat. All 'heat' appears as one heat. 'Heat' may have originated in six different ways (krttikAs), but the body makes it as one 'heat' with six different heads.


    This 'one' heat concept brings us to Zeroth law of thermodynamics.


    Zeroth law of thermodynamics


    The zeroth law of thermodynamics has many forms. All of them convey one message. There is only one heat thought it might have appeared in six different forms. Temperature is one-dimensional. We can arrange bodies 'heated' up from 'hot' to 'cold' linearly irrespective of the method by which they are heated.


    A body might have been heated by radiation. Another one by friction. Another by pressure or magnetism or flow of charges or chemical reaction. All of them produce only one heat measured by one temperature.


    That's how kArthikeya becomes 'one' heat/person with six heads (six forms).


    -TBT
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    That's how kArthikeya becomes 'one' heat/person with six heads (six forms).#Post1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jvm...w?usp=drivesdk

    One person with 6 heads?

    6 heads cannot be in equilibrium obviously!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janaki Jambunathan View Post
    That's how kArthikeya becomes 'one' heat/person with six heads (six forms).#Post1

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jvm...w?usp=drivesdk

    One person with 6 heads?

    6 heads cannot be in equilibrium obviously!
    One person with six heads is the 'visualization', as all six things cause the same 'heat'.

    I am unable to access the 'drive'.

    -TBT
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigthinkg View Post
    I had illustrated how Ganapati is 'Entropy increasing' energy and kArthikeya is 'Heat Increasing' energy in this blog. Now let me describe the story of kArthikeya and Ganesha.

    The story of kArthikeya

    Once Siva's fluid (Seminal or sparks of third eye or perspiration) fell in a pond in a place called 'Sara-vana'. Six krtiikA sisters who came to bathe in the pond took up these sparks, which became kids in their hands; they nursed them as six different children.


    In some versions the seminal fluid/perspiration was gobbled by Agni ; pArvati asked/cursed Agni to deliver it safely somewhere in earth; Agni delivered it in Six krttikA's womb making them pregnant; their husbands (six of the seven Rishis) divorced them for it; these six krttikA sisters delivered six babies and nursed them.


    In some versions svAha loved Agni; Agni loved six krttikA sisters who were wives of sapta rishis. svAha transformed herself into six krtiikA sisters and made love with Agni who delivered siva's semen into them and she delivered six kids as six sisters and nursed them.


    In all the main story line is a part of Shiva branched into six, acquired six different forms nursed by six krttikA sisters.


    Then pArvati took all these six kids in her hands and made them into one with six heads. She had a boon from Shiva that they will be seen as 'one' and they will know only pArvati as their mother. Shiva granted the boon.


    Energy becomes Heat


    Energy is the one that is characterized by Momentum. Energy is gross/sthula. It is perceived by us. The property of energy, the suKshma is momentum. It is inferred by us.


    Agni is fire. Agni is the process by which particles interact with energy. Particles are those that have 'mass'. Energy interacts with particles of mass (called matter). In other words Agni delivers 'energy' to matter.


    When Agni delivers 'energy' to matter, 'heat' is produced. This heat is produced in six different ways in a body of particles or matter.


    There are six 'skins' or 'forms' for heat production. krtti means 'skin' or an external clothing. krttikA are which are skinned or clothed.


    1. Particles in a body can absorb radiation (light) and produce heat

    2. Particles in bodies can chemically react with each other and produce heat
    3. Charged particles in bodies can produce heat (eg. Electric current)
    4. Particles of a body when they are pressurized to occupy a smaller space produce heat.
    5. Magnetism of Charged particles in a body can produce heat.
    6. When bodies move against each other, physical friction produces heat.

    These are the ONLY six different ways 'heat' can be produced. When energy is delivered to matter (Agni), heat is produced in a body of matter in these
    six different forms/ways.


    When a body gets heated up, it is not possible to distinguish which of these is causing the heat. All 'heat' appears as one heat. 'Heat' may have originated in six different ways (krttikAs), but the body makes it as one 'heat' with six different heads.


    This 'one' heat concept brings us to Zeroth law of thermodynamics.


    Zeroth law of thermodynamics


    The zeroth law of thermodynamics has many forms. All of them convey one message. There is only one heat thought it might have appeared in six different forms. Temperature is one-dimensional. We can arrange bodies 'heated' up from 'hot' to 'cold' linearly irrespective of the method by which they are heated.


    A body might have been heated by radiation. Another one by friction. Another by pressure or magnetism or flow of charges or chemical reaction. All of them produce only one heat measured by one temperature.


    That's how kArthikeya becomes 'one' heat/person with six heads (six forms).


    -TBT

    Why did 6 out of the Saptha rishis talaq their wives?

    Didnt they have Jnaana Drishti to know what had actually happened or at least do a DNA test?

    Next question...after the iddah of the talaq was over..did the 6 rishis reconcile with their wives?
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    One honest and genuine doubt!

    Can we EVER tell such 'stories' to our children??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raji Ram View Post
    One honest and genuine doubt!

    Can we EVER tell such 'stories' to our children??

    Well we MUST tell only such stories to our children.

    What I wrote here is no psuedo-science. It is what is in science books.

    So completely palatable to children and in fact will help teach science better and easy to grasp the fundamentals.

    -TBT
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    Quote Originally Posted by renuka View Post
    Why did 6 out of the Saptha rishis talaq their wives?

    Didnt they have Jnaana Drishti to know what had actually happened or at least do a DNA test?

    Next question...after the iddah of the talaq was over..did the 6 rishis reconcile with their wives?
    Like krttika being forms that generate energy, the 'concept' of Sapta Rishis involves what is called 'symmetry breaking'. Rishis are symmetry-breaking events in Universe. Small perturbations build up and break the symmetry/equilibrium in Universe leading to newer phases of matter. These are called Rishis.

    So will talk about it in another blog.

    But you can read on internet these puranic stories of kArthikeya, if they did DNA test or something else.

    -TBT
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