Yenkay Brahmanan?

[praveen]

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Removed a few posts that were not adding value to this discussion.
Just to clarity a few things.

This website is called Tamil Brahmins but it is open to *all* including non-brahmins. All that we ask them is to use this platform constructively.

Us vs them does not really help anyone in this age. It is more of a co-existence.

If this does not go well with your beliefs and thoughts, you are free to leave this forum.

Thank you.

 

[vignesh1234]

on above point 6 youth wants escape from Tamil nadu - Once there is a quota system and selection for anything is NOT merit only. then youth WILL try all avenues. this brahmin youth going to the west option is far better than what the Tamil youth of SriLanka did, taking up arms- when govt brought in quota since Tamils seem to hog university entrance, all top govt posts etc. Brahmin minority community of Tamil nadu and Tamil minority community of Srilanka were similar at one time around 2 million. I think that the ways in which a dominant minority community reacts to it's subjugation by majority will determine it's survival

tch tch tch tch tch tch...You went near, but only meinjufied nuni-pull. The civil war in SL was not tamil vs sinhala, but one dominant group of northern SL tamils (who formed 50% of the population), and the remaining lower caste tamils.

This dominant 50% tamils exercised hegemony in Sri Lankan, as well as tamil society, for centuries. Their cousins in Tamil nadu built the Dravidian movement, as well as a century of Brahmin hate too. They were enjoying all the jobs, and education. They enforced the thesawalamai laws according to which land could not be sold to other groups. They had a completely hegemony.

Beginning independence, the lower castes slowly began to assert themselves. And, sinhala government helped the lower caste tamils. They talk about the standardisation policy of 1971. They keep mum about the district quotas that were given in 1971 -> https://kafila.online/2009/02/16/interview-with-ragavan-on-tamil-militancy-part-i/

We have been told "Universities were closed to tamils". But the truth was - the dominant caste began losing out dominance to accommodate for less privileged groups.

Their cousins in TN said the same thing on Brahmins, starting 1916. But TN story is completely different. Brahmin preponderance in govt jobs does not mean brahmins prevented others from entering them.

TN civil war was not tamil vs sinhala. But this dominant group, vs remaining 50% lower caste tamils. The reason why the lower castes formed LTTE was not to fight the sinhala, but to break the centuries old casteist subjugation of this upper caste dominant tamil group. Most of the tamils who died in the civil war were the former. Most of the tamils who emigrated to developed countries were this dominant group. They are not the victims, but the villains of the war.

 

[vignesh1234]

Veda Adhyayanam is our duty & carrying this for future generations is the purpose for being Tamil Brahmin.
All Brahmin families (by Birth only) should get their children strictly marrying within those who followed Brahmin Traditions. Each family should have at least 3 children, at least one boy should be doing Veda Adhyayanam only for the sake of the entire society.
Every moment from now onwards is in our hands and let us do it together.

Disagree with everything except "marrying children in brahmin families".

One of the goals of the top 3 castes of TN constructing Dravidian movement and a century of brahmin hate, was to take the women. Attack the men, take the women. See Maran. See Karti Chidambaram. See the solicitor general Shanmugasundaram (head, advocate wing, DMK), and his son, 'manu-raj'.

Vedas were ok for past. Of what are they now? We have to keep them alive, but religion itself is just placebo. We must live, and pour our life into religions.

 

[sravna]

The hate for Brahmins in TN cited by some members here is not representative and is more in their imagination or out of vested interests. Most of them have moved on and with redressals being made and Brahmins of today being more cosmopolitan in their outlook, I think it is time to heal and not make it worse. But little can be done unless concerted and sustained efforts are made to counter the vested interests. Till then they will do all they can to keep the issue alive. God save them or give them right thinking.

 

[Mani_Chennai]

Removed a few posts that were not adding value to this discussion.
Just to clarity a few things.

This website is called Tamil Brahmins but it is open to *all* including non-brahmins. All that we ask them is to use this platform constructively.

Us vs them does not really help anyone in this age. It is more of a co-existence.

If this does not go well with your beliefs and thoughts, you are free to leave this forum.

Thank you.

Well said. Also, those who complain have never given any constructive suggestion to improve anything. So, your point is on the spot.

 

[Mani_Chennai]

Well said. Also, those who complain have never given any constructive suggestion to improve anything. So, your point is on the spot.

Thank you pPraven. You have the right to decide what is right and what is not.
Also, I think my place in the forum is not useful and as such, please remove my name from your site.
Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Mani_Chennai

 

[sivakumarkemp]

There is no use in lamenting without positive countermeasures. One suggestion I have is that the Association can post member's inputs to PM in his NAMO APP . This will work. Try Download Namo APP in mobile or PC in association office. Never post negative inputs to PM

 

[Malini Shivadasi]

#7 The role of Brahmins has reversed,Instead of being the leading light of society as they were once,
they have become mostly conduits in the process of performing certain religious rituals .
Second it is doubtful if the community is aware that it has over the years allowed itself to be downgraded and no conscious or concerted attempt is there to go back .The community is weakened by its own intelligence and divisive forces and the pressure on their abilities to sustain them selves economically.
Minor points can come later ,but what is the crux of the problem? Think -tanks can help.

Yes, one of the most vulnerable ethnic minorities in the world with a rich culture that has been a great civilizing force throughout history. Unfortunately unlike other vulnerable ethnic groups, or minorities, there appears to be some sort of acceptance of the hatred that is directed towards it - a misdirected hatred created by the rewriting of history and a 'divide and rule policy' the legacy of which is alive and well. It is sad that the community does not collectively rally in support of its unique culture and identity and promote itself in a positive way to avoid cultural extinction, which is the inevitable trajectory of the current course of events.

 

[sravna]

Yes, one of the most vulnerable ethnic minorities in the world with a rich culture that has been a great civilizing force throughout history. Unfortunately unlike other vulnerable ethnic groups, or minorities, there appears to be some sort of acceptance of the hatred that is directed towards it - a misdirected hatred created by the rewriting of history and a 'divide and rule policy' the legacy of which is alive and well. It is sad that the community does not collectively rally in support of its unique culture and identity and promote itself in a positive way to avoid cultural extinction, which is the inevitable trajectory of the current course of events.

Madam,

The community is renowned at global level People understand the mental capabilities. The global forces do not want that intelligence to be employed for development of India. Also the local forces carry the same attitude and stifle them in whatever way they can at local level. Even unity will not work for the numerical strength of the community is low. So most of them understanding the situation have smartly adapted to the circumstances playing along especially with the global forces.

Let's pray and hope something dramatic happens as the values of the community need to be preserved. I haven't seen anything close to the thinking of the Brahmins which is for the reasons mentioned above is being vitiated. So God will help.