Dear PJ sir,
I was reading some parts of Manu Smriti yesterday where it addresses specific code of conduct and duties for all Varnas and including Mixed castes.
Even a child who is born from a Brahmin father and a Kshatriya mother is not considered a Brahmin but considered a mixed caste.
So this Varna mixing and mixed caste phenomenon has been around for a long long time even in the days of Manu.
So mixing of any kind is not going to make anything homogenous.
Divisions of a new kind will crop up for personal and political interests.
Doctor,Well said sir.
"Mixing of any kind is not going to make anything homogenous".
Varnasrama and Manu smrithi have no relevance in today's world. In my view Caste as a Social division will continue, though it has lost its religious relevance. Creator or his creation has not shown homogeneity in creation.
Divisions will always be there. Ultimately economic disparity will decide on Caste !
Dry vedanta may appeal to super intelligent or the egoists, but all those practicing folk will respect and value their kulam and jati.
I dont have dual citizenship.I am Msian citizen.My loyalty is ONLY to Malaysia even though genetically I am of Indian origin.To India I am a tourist...that is what my Visa says..Tourist Visa!
As a Indian by race I have noticed that no matter where an Indian is..they usually still adhere to caste.
Organizing people by caste in ancient India was a master stroke of a solution to social problems in those times. It was, as a social engineering solution, far ahead of its times too. It is not equivalent to the totem pole of a medieval African tribe (and what our tamil movies try to make it out with its muthal mariyathais, thevar makans, chinna gounder stupid gounders etc., etc.,). Those who understand castes can live with it peacefully. Those who can not understand will be using it to sell hatred and make money or reap other political advantages. There is another group which is arm-chair revolutionary intellectuals who, in their homogenising frenzy, lose sight of the beauty of heterogeneity and the advantages that go with it. LOL.
Dear TKS ji,
I was wondering last night..that when you are actually Captain America yet you play the role of Dwarapala of India?
You know when I fly to India I am asked to fill up disembarkation forms..I am sure you also would yaar..becos you are NOT a citizen of India!
You remember in that thread where some TB girl was asking about her marriage with a Karunaseer guy? Remember at one stage Vaagmi ji asked everyone to shut up becos he said those from abroad dont really know fully about the culture in India?
I shut up for almost 12 hours because Vaagmi ji had a point!
He is an Indian citizen..he followed his orthodox culture..so he feels he knows it better than others who had left the country.
So now my dear..You are Captain America and I am a Malaysian Citizen..so that does not give either one of us the right to act like Jaya or Vijaya Dwarapala of India.
So you see I am not targeting Indians or India or PIO or any specific community..I am merely stating my opinion as a person who is also genetically Indian.
I hope I am clear Captain America!
I disagree. When was manusmriti relevant in day to day life or in the polity? Not for a very long time or when the islamic and english invasion happened. One cannot find a single instance in real life or literature, religious or secular, which substantiates the punishments 'quoted from mausmriti'. But there is enough reference to show that the islamic rulers and missionary christians saw brahmins as the stumbling block to be neutralized if the country's backbone is to be broken. Caste is a confusing perhaps derogatory term; kula and jati will remain as the basic structure of sanatana dharma; each jati has unique traditions, unique gods for worship and rituals. Dry vedanta may appeal to super intelligent or the egoists, but all those practicing folk will respect and value their kulam and jati. Dharampal's essays and books may help one to understand the popularity and universality of education in the early british rule days.
Jati discrimination, jati appeasement, jati reservation for education and jobs create heartburn and disturbance. Even in the recent kalvettu found in tirunelveli on the election of village panchayat, members were from all sections of community but with stringent qualifications on honesty. Only in case of brahmins, vedadhyaana was compulsory. Brahmins were in other vocations too.
There have been several upheavals in the past, which forced brahmins to migrate, hide their identity, change their sampradayams and customs. It is a different wind today - chasing money, position and comforts. Transformation, yes; but no extinction. There is enough interest, devotion and perseverance in preservation and furtherance.
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