What is your opinion if Brahmin (preist) is widow???

[rathish]

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What is your opinion if Brahmin (preist) is widow???
whether he can perform marriage????
Whether widow rules are only for Ladies...
why it is not applicabel to Gents??????????

 

[RVR]

What is your opinion if Brahmin (preist) is widow???
whether he can perform marriage????
Whether widow rules are only for Ladies...
why it is not applicabel to Gents??????????

When it comes to widows, there is definitely gender discrimination during earlier days when ladies were discriminated. Nowadays, things are changing and remarriages are taking place among widow ladies.

I feel some reforms have already taken place without getting significant attention from the community itself.

All the best

 

[kunjuppu]

rathish,

i understand your question, ie priest has lost his wife ie a widower.

also, from your question, you have implied that there are lady priests. atleast that is the way i would prefer to understand it, because i cannot wait for the day, when we have female vaadhiyaars.

though, i think they will be tougher than the male vaadhiyaars, and would probably insist on going the whole 1001 times during avani avittam, and they will keep count.

the only reason i am saying this, is that one of my female relatives has got into deep religion and sampradaayams. also she has taken to learning katha kalakshebams. in any public function, marriage or sumangali prarthanai, she is right there ordering everyone including the priest as to how to do the proper thing.

nowadays, whenever she comes, my other relatives shrink and hide themselves wherever they can, in order to avoid her interrogation.

so dear rathish, i am all for female priests, widowed or otherwise. but i am not so sure the easy going brahmins of this forums, who practice the three cee variation of our faith, would be too pleased. i think they would prefer the male vaadhiyaar, widower or with multiple wives, i think would not matter.

thank you for a very introspective yet very possible query.

 

[amala]

With all due respect Kunjuppuji, I don't see how its feasible for women to be vaadhyaars because of issues like "madi" and menstruation etc. Its different for churches to have women priests and vicars because they don't have this issue.

 

[kunjuppu]

With all due respect Kunjuppuji, I don't see how its feasible for women to be vaadhyaars because of issues like "madi" and menstruation etc. Its different for churches to have women priests and vicars because they don't have this issue.

thanks amala.

we do have some show stoppers don't we? it is all in the mind and mindset, and looking at the various postings in the forum, i realize and am amazed at the range of our tolerances (or absence of it).

still, i think, there are significant sections, i think, of our community, who would think akin to us, and for them, gender differentiation will not be an issue.

right thinking folks, will focus on the quality and presentation of the priests, rather than their gender, and if the female is going through her cycles. i don't think it is anyone's business, but hers.

don't you find that these days, that many TB households ignore such. i think, we are progressing, albeit, sometimes too slow for me, but in the right direction. i have hopes for female hindu priests from our community. they have them in other hindu groups. why not us?

i will take a clean well versed priest, no matter what the gender may be. thank you.

 

[renuka]

Dear All,

I feel the gender of a preist should not really matter as long the work is done well.
I have always wondered why should the marital status of an individual affects his/her position in society with regards to religious and social events.

Each one of us is here to work out our individual karma and whether spouse is alive or not should not really affect our individualized karma.

I remember an event a few years ago where all the Sumangalis old ladies were having a pooja and a chinese middle aged divorcee wanted some kumkum after the pooja and all these sumangalis refused to give her and were talking among them selves that these divorcee could ruin the sanctity of their pooja.Poor thing felt so bad.Being a chinese she would religously follow all prayers and bhajans but yet she was discriminated upon.

I really wondered what those sumangalis gained with their pooja that day.
Dont they realise that each one of us have an individualized karma and another persons marital status is never going to affect anothers husbands life span.
I guess they did not understand ourlife span has already been wriiten on the day we were born as death is just birth turned inside out.
All of us have come into this world with a Date of manufacture and Date of expiry bar code and I feel another persons bar code is never going to affect us.

When Jeevaatma is eternally wedded to Paramaatma...who is really a widow or a widower?

 

[tbs]

When Jeevaatma is eternally wedded to Paramaatma...who is really a widow or a widower?

hi renuka ji
well said...very beautiful philosophical word..i like that...

regards
tbs

 

[sunkan]

Dear All,

I feel the gender of a preist should not really matter as long the work is done well.
I have always wondered why should the marital status of an individual affects his/her position in society with regards to religious and social events.

Each one of us is here to work out our individual karma and whether spouse is alive or not should not really affect our individualized karma.

I remember an event a few years ago where all the Sumangalis old ladies were having a pooja and a chinese middle aged divorcee wanted some kumkum after the pooja and all these sumangalis refused to give her and were talking among them selves that these divorcee could ruin the sanctity of their pooja.Poor thing felt so bad.Being a chinese she would religously follow all prayers and bhajans but yet she was discriminated upon.

I really wondered what those sumangalis gained with their pooja that day.
Dont they realise that each one of us have an individualized karma and another persons marital status is never going to affect anothers husbands life span.
I guess they did not understand ourlife span has already been wriiten on the day we were born as death is just birth turned inside out.
All of us have come into this world with a Date of manufacture and Date of expiry bar code and I feel another persons bar code is never going to affect us.

When Jeevaatma is eternally wedded to Paramaatma...who is really a widow or a widower?

I agree with you renukaa, all the way, it is the conception of the mind that rules and nothing else, if bhakthi is great then who are we to stop or give kumkumam to the person or not...it is very sad to note these incidents...regards sunkan

 

[RVR]

In the Vaishnavi temple, Thirumullaivayil, Chennai (I am also a member in the society which administers the temple), we permit all ladies including widows irrespective of caste or religion to perform pooja directly to Devi.

Sri Vaishnavi Shrine, Aavadi (Chennai)

It is going on for the past sixty years. Founder of the temple Sri Anvanandaji (Late Sri Parthasarathi Iyengar) is a great reformist.

All the best

 

[happyhindu]

Renu,

That was a wonderful post. Very well said: http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/40243-post6.html

Cheers

 

[happyhindu]

Founder of the temple Sri Anvanandaji (Late Sri Parthasarathi Iyengar) is a great reformist.

Women were priests in the vedic period, even composed hymns, but since the times of the dharmashastras, they were pushed all the way down.....and today just look at this situation...when someone creates a scenario for following vedic way of worship, he becomes a reformist....what an irony...

 

[amala]

Thanks KunjuppuJi, Renuji.

 

[rathish]

Thanks for all your replies... Members shown their own expressions and feelings... But all is concluding... Their is no any issue for the opposite person.... provided he or she is very clear with their own inside feelings....
Once again thanks a lot for sharing your views.... Now my mind is cleared and filled with positive feelings......