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There is still hope for our world

Raji Ram

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What happened on Vijaya Dasami??
My nephew started a new channel on YouTube - "Haridasa Narayanan Krithis" - to introduce my grandfather's Carnatic compositions to the world of music!!
 

prasad1

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What happened on Vijaya Dasami??
My nephew started a new channel on YouTube - "Haridasa Narayanan Krithis" - to introduce my grandfather's Carnatic compositions to the world of music!!
Why in this thread?
It needs a new thread of its own.
Congratulations Rajiji.
 

Mani_Chennai

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When native Indians were fighting among themselves- like Indians infighting allowed Moguls and British to control India. with Gun power European conquered USA. It is not right but when people fight among themselves, outsiders get involved and take over. This is the lesson of history and no morality will change it. When population expands, new territory, economic opportunities etc., are now making China, Russia , many African countries seek territorial expansion and our illegal Indian migrants do the same. Thus, a few of us who have neither physically, monetarily or educationally contributed anything to society shout about others is not a good sign of a good citizen. Low self esteem, jealousy and other Psychological deficits make us cry foul about others actions. We we have just and loving family and friends, streets, a villages and cities in India?

Shouting about other countries look like dogs barking at Sun from time immemorial and nothing came out of it. This forum should concentrate on how to uplift and guide the Brahman community and also contribute to the welfare of others. . Let American worry about America and those who live there should take care the problems there.

I realize it applies to me too and not to respond to such views. But without a reply, these unwanted arguments will appear in this site, which is a pity.
 
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sravna

sravna

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What happened on Vijaya Dasami??
My nephew started a new channel on YouTube - "Haridasa Narayanan Krithis" - to introduce my grandfather's Carnatic compositions to the world of music!!
Very nice RR madam. Good day for the launch. Any day good prevailing is a Vijaya day.
 
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sravna

sravna

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When native Indians were fighting among themselves- like Indians infighting allowed Moguls and British to control India. with Gun power European conquered USA. It is not right but when people fight among themselves, outsiders get involved and take over. This is the lesson of history and no morality will change it. When population expands, new territory, economic opportunities etc., are now making China, Russia , many African countries seek territorial expansion and our illegal Indian migrants do the same. Thus, a few of us who have neither physically, monetarily or educationally contributed anything to society shout about others is not a good sign of a good citizen. Low self esteem, jealousy and other Psychological deficits make us cry foul about others actions. We we have just and loving family and friends, streets, a villages and cities in India?

Shouting about other countries look like dogs barking at Sun from time immemorial and nothing came out of it. This forum should concentrate on how to uplift and guide the Brahman community and also contribute to the welfare of others. . Let American worry about America and those who live there should take care the problems there.

I realize it applies to me too and not to respond to such views. But without a reply, these unwanted arguments will appear in this site, which is a pity.
Others can have their way when they are not in the way of others. Otherwise you cannot expect benign behaviour. The world has moved to such insensitivity that nothing works except brute force. Cosy citadels will soon be broken and the cowards inside will be kicked out. Nature has its way of doing things through time.
 
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sravna

sravna

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This is the resistance that any revolution will be facing

The forces

Force of intelligence: Advisors
Strategic force and main beneficiaries: politicians, top businessmen, high profile criminals
Brute force: technology, goondas, police
Refined force: law, press
Ground force: gullible common man

This is the required counter

Force of intelligence: Advisors
Brute force: force removing power of the inner selves of people
Refined force: law, press
Ground force and main beneficiaries: the awakened common man.
 
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sravna

sravna

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The power of positive energies are so grossly underestimated that people are wasting a very precious and potent capability. Why are they so underused? I think because negative energies readily surface and it takes effort to bring positivity out. But from those who have experienced positivity the reasons why one needs to bring out positivity at all, is that it works real wonders at both the personal and societal level. Quality of life is truly elevated and harmony prevails in society which adds to ones quality of life.

But in reality things do not work out easily that way. More than pointing fingers at people let us get to the root of the problem. We should understand that people really are prisoners of their energies and we need to address that.

I will talk more about this.
 
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sravna

sravna

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Thanks Prasad Sir!
Since nothing happened as Sravana Sir had predicted, I thought of posting in this thread.
Big event for our team.
RR madam,

It is happening but not enough. Off the mark I accept with respect to timing but both the events are on and both definitely universe shattering.
 
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sravna

sravna

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More about the effects of positivity based on my experience. In positive mode, one is in sync with reality and so nature takes care of you. Bad events are spontaneously averted and good events spontaneously happen. No need to plan for happiness and striving to make plans work at any cost. So as goodness and positivity develop nature begins to take care of you. This may not be evident early as there is force all round that will stifle this but after a certain point if you persist with positivity you will see nature prevail.
 

prasad1

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More about the effects of positivity based on my experience. In positive mode, one is in sync with reality and so nature takes care of you. Bad events are spontaneously averted and good events spontaneously happen. No need to plan for happiness and striving to make plans work at any cost. So as goodness and positivity develop nature begins to take care of you. This may not be evident early as there is force all round that will stifle this but after a certain point if you persist with positivity you will see nature prevail.
I am a realist.
Nothing bad happens as it is my destiny.
But I do expect some rewards and do get disappointed when that does not happen.
Results are not in my hand, but again I accept them.
 
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sravna

sravna

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I am a realist.
Nothing bad happens as it is my destiny.
But I do expect some rewards and do get disappointed when that does not happen.
Results are not in my hand, but again I accept them.
I understand Prasad. Many people naturally sync with my line of thinking though they have been forced out of it. I would like to see that set right.
 

renuka

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More about the effects of positivity based on my experience. In positive mode, one is in sync with reality and so nature takes care of you. Bad events are spontaneously averted and good events spontaneously happen. No need to plan for happiness and striving to make plans work at any cost. So as goodness and positivity develop nature begins to take care of you. This may not be evident early as there is force all round that will stifle this but after a certain point if you persist with positivity you will see nature prevail.
Sravna...its not about positivity.
We often mistake spiritual states to be positive.

Its not!
Spiritual states makes us see anything and everything AS IT IS.
One would experiences everything from positive, negative to neutral BUT one does NOT become destabilized by the polar opposites.

For eg..an awakened person can still experience grief when he experiences death of a loved one but he quickly comes to terms with it and chooses activities that help deal with the grief...but someone who is hard hearted might not feel anything when anyone dies because he is not bothered and incapable of experiencing emotions.

And the other extreme is a person gets over emotional and badly affected by the death of a loved one and plunges into prolonged sorrow which could lead to depression.

So if you see here..the awakened person is in the Middle Path..he quickly stabilizes after any experience be it a negative one or a positive one.

Most spiritual pages I have read make this mistake of equating posivity with spirituality.

This is a dangerous trend because it gives a wrong impression that being awakened is a bed of roses.

Actually being awakened is a bed of "Guns N Roses" and one who is awakened knows to dodge the bullets and to avoid the intoxication of the roses and yet know how to use both.
 
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sravna

sravna

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Sravna...its not about positivity.
We often mistake spiritual states to be positive.

Its not!
Spiritual states makes us see anything and everything AS IT IS.
One would experiences everything from positive, negative to neutral BUT one does NOT become destabilized by the polar opposites.

For eg..an awakened person can still experience grief when he experiences death of a loved one but he quickly comes to terms with it and chooses activities that help deal with the grief...but someone who is hard hearted might not feel anything when anyone dies because he is not bothered and incapable of experiencing emotions.

And the other extreme is a person gets over emotional and badly affected by the death of a loved one and plunges into prolonged sorrow which could lead to depression.

So if you see here..the awakened person is in the Middle Path..he quickly stabilizes after any experience be it a negative one or a positive one.

Most spiritual pages I have read make this mistake of equating posivity with spirituality.

This is a dangerous trend because it gives a wrong impression that being awakened is a bed of roses.

Actually being awakened is a bed of "Guns N Roses" and one who is awakened knows to dodge the bullets and to avoid the intoxication of the roses and yet know how to use both.
I agree Renuka. I referred to the desirable reactions and not as a polar opposite of negative. Objectivity and equanimity are the essence of spiritual behaviour. That takes care of everything but the catch is it is reached only after hard fought and sustained battles.

Good analysis Renuka
 
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sravna

sravna

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Objectivity and equanimity under any situation can be the most prized qualities. That means our nature is synchronized with mother nature. Nature has provided everyone with two features which are ego and conscience. In a general sense ego is about self and conscience is about others. People day don't do wrong to others but I will say don't do wrong to self too. There has to be a balance. In other words ego and conscience should become equivalents. Treat others as you treat self will be the advice for the selfish person and treat self as you treat others will be the advice for a selfless person.

Spirituality is about seeing equivalence in the physical reality. Then you become objective and equanimous.
 
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sravna

sravna

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I think now the spiritual power is well in place to deter undue negative influences of external reality on people. It has started working. May not be palpably evident now but will be soon.
 
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sravna

sravna

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The game changer is the brute force. While technology, muscle power are the recourse of the criminals, the only force that is capable of countering it is spiritual energy. It makes me believe there is still hope for the world.
 
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